You could not vote out comunists

and its a cancer to society no matter what kind of it is implemented

You were stuck with them

I aggree most socialist policies are dumb

Didn't Hitler rise to power democratically though?

Comunists did too in my country

you can have socialist policies like medicare and what not but when the whole government is socialist is when its cancerous... plus socialist policies just mean more debt

The difference is they said once in power they will fuck everyone else

socialism fucks the whole country too lol

I don't mind public firefighting

Socialist policies end with them trying to preplan and controll everything

With most ppl taking a piss

And making it fail

So, use capitalism to fund socialist endeavors, but only so much as you can afford?

Socialism would work great in society of robots

we are the borg.

the problem is that we live in a society

Well you can notice they do behave similar lol

Many forms of government would work great with robots

Almost like a program constructed properly.

It's all paradise until you introduce the human factor

or we just stick with capitalism and if you dont want to work to make a living you end up homeless and starve cuz of your laziness

Btw human factor is also what is fucking the Brexit

There are many people who work for themselves

if a man will not work, he shall not eat.'

or have support mechanisms that are ...voluntary...for those people that can't work to make a living.

Its fascinating to watch

well theres a huge difference between refuse to work and cant physically work

That is why I guess most governments have programs for those

"if a man will not work, he shall not eat" dude !!! That used to be comunist party slogan in my country

yes but those programs are abused by those who refuse to work

So the problem is the people abusing

Big time problem

is it, or is the problem that we don't have clear enough methods of making distinctions between those abusing and those with actual limitations?

Would be both in that case no?

one is a problem the other is a symptom

Or rather when I say the problem is the people abusing is that the problem is about the people abusing

a problem is something that can be solved

hard to catch people that are abusing it without having surveillance on them 24/7

is it though?

yeah cuz without having them watched how do you know they arent acting/lying