Message from @ExceptionalFeather

Discord ID: 476188499570065408


2018-08-07 00:34:31 UTC  

"Tell on"

2018-08-07 00:34:31 UTC  

Well are you giving disability purely based on trust?

2018-08-07 00:34:35 UTC  

if they can act or lie their way into a disability.

2018-08-07 00:35:04 UTC  

its just hard to tell what is wrong with someones body with our technology. some problems you cant see even with MRI's and Xrays

2018-08-07 00:35:09 UTC  

or even CAT scans

2018-08-07 00:35:20 UTC  

i agree, was my point.

2018-08-07 00:36:04 UTC  

Reminds me, a guy I used to know was pulled out of school at age 14 and was never home schooled by his parents so his parents could collect welfare later on.

2018-08-07 00:36:37 UTC  

we would need some form of technology that could tell when something actually caused someone pain like in their joints or whatever else their complaint is that is keeping them from working

2018-08-07 00:37:37 UTC  

Wel it would be helpful, but I don't think it's necessary to reduce the issue.

2018-08-07 00:37:43 UTC  

Is there generally anything severe enough where you can''t work any kind of job and it can't be measured?

2018-08-07 00:37:48 UTC  

A start would be to introduce gradients rather than a simple binary.

2018-08-07 00:38:20 UTC  

sure, you have limitations, but your limitations aren't so bad, so you get some help

2018-08-07 00:38:27 UTC  

from my understanding there is.

2018-08-07 00:38:42 UTC  

its not like oh his leg doesnt work well so he cant work at all

2018-08-07 00:39:01 UTC  

my understanding is that person would not get any aid, because he can work

2018-08-07 00:39:27 UTC  

the current system is if you can work, even if you are messed up, no aid. You have to be so messed up you cannot work, to get full aid.

2018-08-07 00:40:02 UTC  

so a binary

2018-08-07 00:40:10 UTC  

i mean my mom has cerebral palsy and got SS but not the full amount someone that was completely unable to work got.

2018-08-07 00:41:18 UTC  

really? Hmm. Never heard of that, I've heard of differences caused by ssi vs ssdi...

2018-08-07 00:42:32 UTC  

You can be deemed incompetent by the state and get a lot, incompetentcy can just be idiocy which is terrible in my opinion. Should just be mental handicaps

2018-08-07 00:43:05 UTC  

That is another thing, mental health is a major issue that just gets band aids on it.

2018-08-07 00:43:35 UTC  

sure, but a lot of that is still not well understood, and is a lot of trial by error.

2018-08-07 00:43:43 UTC  

doesn't mean nothing should be done, ofc.

2018-08-07 00:44:07 UTC  

That's the thing, is it should be worked towards being well understood

2018-08-07 00:44:07 UTC  

NO, we need the perfect solution... Reeee

2018-08-07 00:44:16 UTC  

the brain isnt really fully understood tho so mental issues are harder to deal with

2018-08-07 00:45:09 UTC  

of course then theres the generation coming up that thinks they have every condition in the book and just make it harder to understand what causes each condition and how to treat it

2018-08-07 00:45:29 UTC  

That's the thing, there is not as big a push to get better understanding as their should be

2018-08-07 00:47:55 UTC  

Where should the push be taking place that it isn't?

2018-08-07 00:48:26 UTC  

I mean, is it at the pay/funding level, the science/technology level, etc.

2018-08-07 00:49:04 UTC  

I would say those are included

2018-08-07 00:50:47 UTC  

Even just implementing what is known

2018-08-07 00:52:21 UTC  

Still not sure where you think the push should be happening that it's not. Implementing what is known?

2018-08-07 00:52:57 UTC  

Unicorn Riot called the Portland protests' Patriot Prayer alt-right 🤔

2018-08-07 00:53:15 UTC  

Pretty sure they're just christian right...

2018-08-07 00:53:38 UTC  

But fuck that, anyone you disagree with is alt-right, right?

2018-08-07 00:53:41 UTC  

unicorn riot was streaming from portland

2018-08-07 00:53:49 UTC  

I remember them from Justice4Jamar

2018-08-07 00:54:01 UTC  

I thought anyone who wasn't a socialist was considered alt-right nowadays, including the moderate left and centrists?

2018-08-07 00:55:20 UTC  

Many people don't know how to manage their mental disorders, and people around them don't know how to look for it or manage it either.

2018-08-07 00:56:23 UTC  

So, what do you want to happen? You want people to be more educated or care more?