Message from @Beemann
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I'd argue it was #MeToo.
They've basically re-written alot of the Democratic party at this point.
Didn't the political divide map closest to guns?
Issue-wise, yes.
It's also heavily decided by population density.
that would be authoritarian vs libertarian
not left/right
many gun owning liberals
Guns are a true urban/rural issue.
Also didn't white wahmen get Trump elected?
In part.
many reasons trump got elected
Not in total.
I remember him scoring remarkably well within certain age groups
2016 = Hilary beat herself
2020 = people vote for trump
Mostly voter turnout was low, which favors Republicans.
So glad Harmful is back
Rural people (liberals included) tend to see guns as key tools for fending against animals and potential attackers.
Urbanites (conservatives included) see guns purely as a weapon for crime.
A theory I like is that rural living tends to make people self-reliant. Urban living makes people dependent.
people in citys have a stronger force acting on them than self preservation
media
So when you're at risk of being attacked, rural people will tend to ask what they might do to protect themselves. Urbanites will tend to ask what it would take to get someone else to take care of them.
besides the government doesent get to spend your tax money on defending you if you can defend yourself
The problem there is that the latter isn't really feasible
Government generally doesn't defend you. Government cleans up the mess afterwards.
Feasibility doesn't matter. Appearance of Feasibility does.
The government doesn't defend you in the present tense. The government tries to disincentivize attacking you and tries to punish your attacker
See but that's where we get into the cognitive dissonance
The argument makes some sense. IF the attacker cannot get a gun THEN they cannot attack you with said gun.
Wherein the left hates both cops and self defense
Or at least the most efficient method of self defense
The weakness is that the government doesn't actually tend to succeed at stopping people.
That argument tends to lead to spoon licenses.
police CAN work
But if you accept the premise, the logic is sound. And the government can at least make it harder for law abiding people and reduce the number in circulation.
Oi m8
But in practice, guns still find their ways into the hands of gangs and the like.
Police can work in some ways yes