Message from @pratel

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2018-08-22 00:53:16 UTC  

I wish liberals would stop focusing on HOW people are killing each other and focus instead on WHY people are killing each other. They'd probably have lots of good ideas for tackling that problem. They're much better suited for solving issues of motivation than conservatives.

2018-08-22 00:53:32 UTC  

In the 40s you could own military weaponry

2018-08-22 00:54:12 UTC  

And then in the 60s and 80s they started walking shit back

2018-08-22 00:54:31 UTC  

Kennedy & Reagan.

2018-08-22 00:55:18 UTC  

Complete knee-jerk reaction too, as laws passed wouldn't have stopped the assassins.

2018-08-22 00:55:33 UTC  

That's how most regulation tends to work, TBH.

2018-08-22 00:56:41 UTC  

Like obviously there are still people who get ahold of modern automatics and shit, but for the most part cops deal with handguns afaik

2018-08-22 00:57:19 UTC  

There was a famous case where some bank robbers got some rather high-quality weapons and some high-grade body armor and went absolutely ballistic.

2018-08-22 00:57:24 UTC  

Automatic weapons, whether legally owned or illegally modified, are exceptionally rare in crimes.

2018-08-22 00:57:31 UTC  

That spooked the police forces into arming up.

2018-08-22 00:57:47 UTC  

But I'm also not in agreement with those people who seem to always seem to assume fault with LEOs

2018-08-22 00:58:05 UTC  

Well there aren't many people who can legally own automatic weapons

2018-08-22 00:58:09 UTC  

It's mostly handguns, sawed-off shotguns, etc. But again that's focusing on HOW instead of WHY.

2018-08-22 00:58:15 UTC  

As per last century's legislation rush

2018-08-22 00:58:29 UTC  

And those who do own collectors items and relics lol

2018-08-22 00:58:39 UTC  

I think the actual driver of the militarization of the police is Iraq.

Left alot of spare military equipment no one could really use so the DOD offloaded it cheap.

2018-08-22 00:58:55 UTC  

And I'm not sure that's necessarily *too* bad on it's own.

2018-08-22 00:58:58 UTC  

That seems feasible yeah

2018-08-22 00:59:33 UTC  

A lot of grants were issued for that sort of thing. Basically "Here's half a million bucks for your department, but you have to spend it on surplus"

2018-08-22 00:59:43 UTC  

I think the main issue re:cops is the lack of connection with the community, probably at least in part due to the severe lack of community to connect to

2018-08-22 00:59:54 UTC  

^ The real issue.

2018-08-22 01:00:08 UTC  

And one that I think libertarians in particular don't recognize, understand or plan to fix.

2018-08-22 01:00:20 UTC  

drinking and thinking

2018-08-22 01:00:20 UTC  

Even though it's probably a major driver of the expansion of government.

2018-08-22 01:00:28 UTC  

I plan to fix it, but I can only do it on a local level really

2018-08-22 01:00:30 UTC  

vanilla rum and coke is actually quite delicioso my duded

2018-08-22 01:00:37 UTC  

These are choices people have to make for themselves

2018-08-22 01:00:47 UTC  

@Beemann that's how it starts. That's how it works.

2018-08-22 01:00:49 UTC  

oh shit

2018-08-22 01:00:53 UTC  

almost threw up in my mouth

2018-08-22 01:01:04 UTC  

It's a great place in which liberals could apply their strengths but they fixate on guns instead of the social issues. Probably because they're embarrassed about the social issues.

2018-08-22 01:01:08 UTC  

It's a major weakness we are approaching as the country becomes more secular IMO.

2018-08-22 01:01:31 UTC  

2muchdrank?

2018-08-22 01:01:57 UTC  

I'm sorry i have only had one glass

2018-08-22 01:02:09 UTC  

Vanilla rum and coke but i usually fill it halfway with rum before i add the coke

2018-08-22 01:02:10 UTC  

Yeah I think the problem is that people became obsessed with tearing down structures, and ignored why they were there

2018-08-22 01:02:15 UTC  

Which isn't just a secular problem mind

2018-08-22 01:02:36 UTC  

Dawkins said something about that recently if I recall.

2018-08-22 01:02:49 UTC  

All trad structures got attacked, but rather than building up more open, contemporary systems people just splintered

2018-08-22 01:03:00 UTC  

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2018-08-22 01:03:04 UTC  

Harris promotes spirituality