Stuff like the American Legion. Or Rotary Clubs.

Both of which still exist but are dying quickly.

I really like the guilds idea too

Particularly in the Urban cores.

Wherein they can provide financial aid but you also are expected to take on certain responsibilities

Only way to keep society from spiraling out of control is to Educate on truth and allow the free exchange of ideas in the public domain. Without free exchange, how can people can convince each other something is wrong or show the truth to those in echo chambers? By placing people in tribes, you lead to conflicting ideologies and people end up embolden to use violence against each other.

That is just my take on things.

You're not going to get people to be open minded without fixing the isolation issue

Not quite sure I see your point.

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Community -> Education -> Legislation

Echo chambers leads to tribal mentality, where one group won't listen to the other and they are more willing to use violence to solve their problems.

Or as Peterson would say, "get your own house in order"

People have to empathize before they listen

I'd actually say that the social justice push *and* the white supremacists *and* the rise of nationalism are all reflections of the same desire for people to reform communities.

"Why should I listen to a hateful evil doubleHitler?"

I'd agree yeah

Social justice and white sumpremecists are both racist in nature.

I blame twitter and other medias, for forcing people into echo chambers on social media, thus in turn further entrenching tribalism which is lead to more violent conflicts between people.

But they do create self-segregated cultures and communities.

Social justice and identity politics did push the social medias to this.

People were in echo chambers pre twitter

Twitter just further entrenches it.

What I am saying.

There were different forums for different groups, different entire websites even

They are making the problem so much more worse.

And networks of sites

@Dusty Morgan I'm not sure I get the relation of echo chambers and stuff to the formation of communities. Are you saying local community orgs are bad because they form echo chambers? Or are you saying it's a seperate issue entirely?

No. I think twitter is just a litmus test

You're looking through the microscope now and you don't like how far things have gone

@Beemann Exactly. DailyKos and FreeRepublic both existed and I'm sure the bases hated each other.

I am saying the community orgs today are "FORCING" people into echo chambers, which leads to them being exposed to identity politics without any counter argument to persuade them from following those politics.

They don't force them into that though. Block bots are voluntary.

You don't conform to my ideology and you are making people offended, therefor you are banned from this thread.

No one wants to engage and debate, to thus change the mind of the individual.

It's not like SocJus2016 was listening to Mark Cernovich prior to the Twitter crackdowns

And admin abuse has been a thing for a long time

I am not talking about smaller social media, the forums, discord, etc, etc...

I think these problems go back a lot further

I didn't say you were

I am talking about the big social media sites, the ones that controls communication around the world.