Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-08-22 01:21:52 UTC  

Well it's the same as pulling people out of extremist groups

2018-08-22 01:21:56 UTC  

Everyone just returns to their little circle and is basically alone.

2018-08-22 01:22:02 UTC  

You introduce them to the people they say they hate

2018-08-22 01:22:18 UTC  

It's horrible from a psychological standpoint.

2018-08-22 01:22:21 UTC  

That's how you decon KKK members

2018-08-22 01:22:26 UTC  

^

2018-08-22 01:22:43 UTC  

And how you keep things from spiraling crazily out of control.

2018-08-22 01:23:17 UTC  

We've created a society where you can be surrounded by millions of people and yet be more socially isolated than the countryside.

2018-08-22 01:23:26 UTC  

kkk: kreamy kim kardashian

2018-08-22 01:23:49 UTC  

And when everyone is depressed and alone everyone just turns to drugs and "self care"

2018-08-22 01:23:55 UTC  

Well to be fair, that's because you can't know anywhere near that many people

2018-08-22 01:24:01 UTC  

It's overstimulation

2018-08-22 01:24:04 UTC  

Agreed.

2018-08-22 01:24:20 UTC  

But there have traditionally been pretty significant organizations that provided some community.

2018-08-22 01:24:26 UTC  

Absolutely

2018-08-22 01:24:33 UTC  

Stuff like the American Legion. Or Rotary Clubs.

2018-08-22 01:24:45 UTC  

Both of which still exist but are dying quickly.

2018-08-22 01:24:47 UTC  

I really like the guilds idea too

2018-08-22 01:24:53 UTC  

Particularly in the Urban cores.

2018-08-22 01:25:11 UTC  

Wherein they can provide financial aid but you also are expected to take on certain responsibilities

2018-08-22 01:25:17 UTC  

Only way to keep society from spiraling out of control is to Educate on truth and allow the free exchange of ideas in the public domain. Without free exchange, how can people can convince each other something is wrong or show the truth to those in echo chambers? By placing people in tribes, you lead to conflicting ideologies and people end up embolden to use violence against each other.

2018-08-22 01:25:39 UTC  

That is just my take on things.

2018-08-22 01:25:41 UTC  

You're not going to get people to be open minded without fixing the isolation issue

2018-08-22 01:25:41 UTC  

Not quite sure I see your point.

2018-08-22 01:25:49 UTC  

^

2018-08-22 01:26:03 UTC  

Community -> Education -> Legislation

2018-08-22 01:26:21 UTC  

Echo chambers leads to tribal mentality, where one group won't listen to the other and they are more willing to use violence to solve their problems.

2018-08-22 01:26:28 UTC  

Or as Peterson would say, "get your own house in order"

2018-08-22 01:26:49 UTC  

People have to empathize before they listen

2018-08-22 01:27:03 UTC  

I'd actually say that the social justice push *and* the white supremacists *and* the rise of nationalism are all reflections of the same desire for people to reform communities.

2018-08-22 01:27:09 UTC  

"Why should I listen to a hateful evil doubleHitler?"

2018-08-22 01:27:13 UTC  

I'd agree yeah

2018-08-22 01:27:16 UTC  

Social justice and white sumpremecists are both racist in nature.

2018-08-22 01:27:18 UTC  

I blame twitter and other medias, for forcing people into echo chambers on social media, thus in turn further entrenching tribalism which is lead to more violent conflicts between people.

2018-08-22 01:27:30 UTC  

But they do create self-segregated cultures and communities.

2018-08-22 01:27:38 UTC  

Social justice and identity politics did push the social medias to this.

2018-08-22 01:27:47 UTC  

People were in echo chambers pre twitter

2018-08-22 01:28:00 UTC  

Twitter just further entrenches it.

2018-08-22 01:28:04 UTC  

What I am saying.

2018-08-22 01:28:06 UTC  

There were different forums for different groups, different entire websites even

2018-08-22 01:28:12 UTC  

They are making the problem so much more worse.