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My point in bringing up women's participation in social clubs is not to disparage women. It's just that generally speaking women aren't the ones having problems. They're not the ones shooting each other.

The conversation was about urban violence. And generally speaking that's a male problem.

The clubs aren't just there to be help groups for men's issues

The idea is to bring the community together

Generally speaking

Like if we live in a neighborhood I want to know that we have each other's backs, and that we're all working towards keeping the place free and secure

So like maybe we have a neighbourhood watch, and we have groups that go and help the elderly with maintenance or chip in to get that playground built

lol my neighborhood is so far from that. complete urban isolation.

That's a lot of places

And I think that's one of the key issues

It's a very key issue.

The loss of community is a big part of why the government keeps finding it's way to solve problems.

It's also why people can't seem to empathize or relate to each other.

Well it's the same as pulling people out of extremist groups

Everyone just returns to their little circle and is basically alone.

You introduce them to the people they say they hate

It's horrible from a psychological standpoint.

That's how you decon KKK members

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And how you keep things from spiraling crazily out of control.

We've created a society where you can be surrounded by millions of people and yet be more socially isolated than the countryside.

kkk: kreamy kim kardashian

And when everyone is depressed and alone everyone just turns to drugs and "self care"

Well to be fair, that's because you can't know anywhere near that many people

It's overstimulation

Agreed.

But there have traditionally been pretty significant organizations that provided some community.

Absolutely

Stuff like the American Legion. Or Rotary Clubs.

Both of which still exist but are dying quickly.

I really like the guilds idea too

Particularly in the Urban cores.

Wherein they can provide financial aid but you also are expected to take on certain responsibilities

Only way to keep society from spiraling out of control is to Educate on truth and allow the free exchange of ideas in the public domain. Without free exchange, how can people can convince each other something is wrong or show the truth to those in echo chambers? By placing people in tribes, you lead to conflicting ideologies and people end up embolden to use violence against each other.

That is just my take on things.

You're not going to get people to be open minded without fixing the isolation issue

Not quite sure I see your point.

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Community -> Education -> Legislation