Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-08-22 01:32:01 UTC  

I am talking about the big social media sites, the ones that controls communication around the world.

2018-08-22 01:32:07 UTC  

Yes, so was I

2018-08-22 01:32:40 UTC  

It is so much more likely that you will be exposed to bad ideas and entrenched in the ideas when people are always like... your racists and fascists, therefor you must only be placed in the echo chambers with actual racists and fascists.

2018-08-22 01:33:08 UTC  

No aspect of Twitter's operation can make it more divisive and echo chamber-y than the actual echo chambers that existed prior

2018-08-22 01:33:28 UTC  

That were already being used by its current user base

2018-08-22 01:33:44 UTC  

Before twitter started shadow banning and placing people into bubbles for "Content" that they want to see, we were able to talk to each other and exchange ideas together.

2018-08-22 01:33:51 UTC  

REgardless who you were and where you were from.

2018-08-22 01:34:11 UTC  

The bubbles are user created. Blockbots formed natural borders

2018-08-22 01:34:11 UTC  

Yes there was echo chambers, but they were small and in the fringe.

2018-08-22 01:34:26 UTC  

Now they are massive and split between the left and right.

2018-08-22 01:34:34 UTC  

They already were

2018-08-22 01:34:42 UTC  

It wasn't fringe groups

2018-08-22 01:34:59 UTC  

Not to the extent that people are willing to violent beat each other up over their political opinions.

2018-08-22 01:35:02 UTC  

Like I'm pretty sure a lot of lefties just blindly use the GG blockbot

2018-08-22 01:35:12 UTC  

That's the result of the echo chambers

2018-08-22 01:35:56 UTC  

I'd actually say a big part of the issue (and one that was easy to see from the start) was that there is no outlets for such divisions.

Traditionally, political divisions tended to align well with geography so the US had regionalism and federalism.

Now it's no-holds barred federal fights. And the divisions tend to be along urban/rural lines or ideologies without geographic boundaries.

2018-08-22 01:36:30 UTC  

What you are basically saying, you are taking blame from the big social media companies for contributing these echo chambers. I say the social media companies are party of the problem, they are a big part of the problem, they are not the sole cause of the problem though.

2018-08-22 01:36:55 UTC  

I am trying to understand your view.

2018-08-22 01:37:00 UTC  

What's Twitter's involvement? Allowing you to block people?

2018-08-22 01:37:03 UTC  

Mine or Beemans?

2018-08-22 01:37:08 UTC  

It feels like you are trying to say that the big social media companies are not the reason for this.

2018-08-22 01:37:16 UTC  

Beeman.

2018-08-22 01:37:25 UTC  

They arent. This has been a steady buildup

2018-08-22 01:38:32 UTC  

I feel that the big social media companies has accelerated the problem to the end game and is major part of dividing people even more along party lines aka tribalism.

2018-08-22 01:39:33 UTC  

I don't think they have at all. I think the financial unrest of 08, and the past 30 years of US hyper partisanship has fucked your country, and other countries with it

2018-08-22 01:39:50 UTC  

It just wasn't as noticeable before everyone could talk

2018-08-22 01:39:51 UTC  

I think what's actually happening is far more subtle and far more worldwide.

2018-08-22 01:39:59 UTC  

Everyone has always had echo chambers.

2018-08-22 01:40:05 UTC  

But they were limited by geography.

2018-08-22 01:40:11 UTC  

That's why we had nations and cultures.

2018-08-22 01:40:15 UTC  

Or in the US, states.

2018-08-22 01:40:47 UTC  

These companies are vastly powerful and working together in conjunctions with each other, basically they have monopolized our communication across the internet. Then they start restricting content to us based on our likes and dislikes, which bleeds into politics where you may like republican and dislike democrats, etc, etc... They give you content based on what your views and likes are. Creating a huge echo chamber for many people, they also hide comments and opinions that is opposed to your views.

2018-08-22 01:41:15 UTC  

But now with everyone talking to each other, there's a bit of culture shock.

Simultaneously you've got globalization (of which US interventions are part)

2018-08-22 01:41:22 UTC  

They're just automating what already went on

2018-08-22 01:41:41 UTC  

Yes, that has been noted by many, including many who manage these networks.

2018-08-22 01:42:11 UTC  

But alot of activists in the organizations (mostly on the left) don't want to pop the echo chamber. Or atleast, they only want to pop it one way.

2018-08-22 01:42:26 UTC  

They pretty much false advertise to people using these platforms. Aka free speech platforms where free exchange of ideas can happen. That isn't what you get with these social media companies now.

2018-08-22 01:42:30 UTC  

Damore and leaked Google chatroom conversations has mentioned as much.

2018-08-22 01:42:38 UTC  

Is it false advertisement? Seriously think about it.

2018-08-22 01:42:41 UTC  

It can happen, it just doesn't

2018-08-22 01:42:57 UTC  

I agree. I was arguing we need to regulate these platforms to stop censorship.