Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-08-22 01:42:38 UTC  

Is it false advertisement? Seriously think about it.

2018-08-22 01:42:41 UTC  

It can happen, it just doesn't

2018-08-22 01:42:57 UTC  

I agree. I was arguing we need to regulate these platforms to stop censorship.

2018-08-22 01:43:14 UTC  

Nothing is stopping you from talking to people on twitter. Y'all just have to turn off the blockbots and stop false flagging shit

2018-08-22 01:43:33 UTC  

I don't think we need regulations, but we do need like a internet bill of rights for our users, thus if the social media infringes upon these rights they can be sued and held accountable.

2018-08-22 01:43:35 UTC  

I will say I have seen studies (which I foolishly lost) that indicate people online actually are more aware of their oppositions positions than people not online and people are more aware than in the past.

2018-08-22 01:43:43 UTC  

We don't need government intervention into the social media companies.

2018-08-22 01:43:53 UTC  

But what's an internet bill of rights but intervention then?

2018-08-22 01:44:01 UTC  

I'm not quite sure I see the difference.

2018-08-22 01:44:22 UTC  

Unless you are thinking of a "I sue them" versus "the FTC fines them" distinction.

2018-08-22 01:44:40 UTC  

But that's just enforcement mechanisms.

2018-08-22 01:44:48 UTC  

It is basically a agreement between social media and us, this is the list of our rights and thus the social media can't infringe upon these rights unless they want to be held accountable by people through the rule of law.

2018-08-22 01:45:24 UTC  

But what is the law but a community contract? And what is a contract than an agreement?

2018-08-22 01:45:49 UTC  

Regulation is when the government is actively involved with the social media companies and keeps a thumb on their pulse. Absolute power corrupts absolute.

2018-08-22 01:45:51 UTC  

Technically, threre is an agreement. It's the Terms of Service and you agree to it by using the site.

2018-08-22 01:45:54 UTC  

Government is good at destroying.

2018-08-22 01:46:26 UTC  

Sure. I can agree. But if you are going to create a bill of rights you must enforce it somehow.

2018-08-22 01:46:35 UTC  

Or people will renege.

2018-08-22 01:46:49 UTC  

There is unspoken norms. But I think it can be said alot of them are already being violated.

2018-08-22 01:47:08 UTC  

Basically they can be held accountable our nation's laws if they infringe upon that nation's citizen.

2018-08-22 01:47:37 UTC  

The law that they can be held accountable depends on the person and what nation they are from.

2018-08-22 01:47:45 UTC  

...That's what I'm saying and advocating.

2018-08-22 01:47:53 UTC  

But you have to have an enforcement mechanism.

2018-08-22 01:48:03 UTC  

Either an agency enforcing the law or an opening for Tort.

2018-08-22 01:48:24 UTC  

That is where we got to hash out the details of the bill of rights.

2018-08-22 01:48:35 UTC  

The constitution of United States wasn't made in a single day.

2018-08-22 01:48:54 UTC  

It was made day and night, hidden from the British through secret before they introduced it.

2018-08-22 01:48:55 UTC  

It was drafted kinda quickly...

2018-08-22 01:49:20 UTC  

I don't get where people get that idea, it was thought upon, debated upon, talked about, and hashed out by our founding fathers.

2018-08-22 01:49:22 UTC  

And you're thinking of the DOI. Not the Constitution.

2018-08-22 01:49:23 UTC  

It wasn't made in a single night.

2018-08-22 01:49:37 UTC  

The Bill of Rights was also debated upon.

2018-08-22 01:49:42 UTC  

I was using constitution as a example.

2018-08-22 01:50:09 UTC  

It will take time for us users of the internet to come up with a bill of rights.

2018-08-22 01:50:22 UTC  

And a agreement between the social media company and us.

2018-08-22 01:50:22 UTC  

You might not have that much time though.

2018-08-22 01:50:32 UTC  

And more importantly, what exactly are you proposing?

2018-08-22 01:50:44 UTC  

Yeah I'm not for the regulation of private companies. I think a better solution is to build up less shitty sites. And any agreement the social media company can make they can break, so how do you enforce it?

2018-08-22 01:50:50 UTC  

I don't want to give the power of controlling our global communication to the government.

2018-08-22 01:50:52 UTC  

A nebulous "bill of rights to be decided at a later date" is worthless.

2018-08-22 01:51:09 UTC  

I'd say it's already too late. Europe is already doing so.