Message from @Termer

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2018-08-22 03:59:28 UTC  

We have to keep moving, we can't stagnate due to fear of getting it wrong.

2018-08-22 04:01:29 UTC  

@Timcast What is your opinion on the internet bill of rights idea? Should we allow regulation which off-chance government can use regulations to control what we see, say, or do? Or should we go towards creating a bill of rights that could allow us to form a agreement with the government and social media corporations that they will allow us these rights, if they infringe upon these rights, they become open to being held accountable to the laws of the nation?

2018-08-22 04:01:36 UTC  

Yeah. We're really late to the punch. Really late.

2018-08-22 04:02:00 UTC  

And Warner is already drafted up what he wants to do to fight 'fake news.' Very scary stuff from a privacy standpoint.

2018-08-22 04:03:00 UTC  

The bill of rights for internet in my opinion should in some way allow us to hold social media and government accountable when they infringe upon the right agreed upon. They won't loose control of their websites and corporations, but they will be held accountable if they infringe our rights.

2018-08-22 04:03:00 UTC  

If you wanted to name it, it depends on who you're presenting it to

2018-08-22 04:03:27 UTC  

I really think regulations isn't the way to go.

2018-08-22 04:03:54 UTC  

For example if you were aiming a press release at the public you could call it a universal shitposting license

2018-08-22 04:04:36 UTC  

In congress you could probably call it something like the Anti Censorship Bill

2018-08-22 04:04:53 UTC  

Or the Internet Freedom Bill

2018-08-22 04:04:56 UTC  

thats pretty american

2018-08-22 04:05:28 UTC  

I think European draft idea is designed to milk the social media corporations and foreign citizens for all their worth in money. The way they phrase it scares me.

2018-08-22 04:05:38 UTC  

Pay for links?

2018-08-22 04:05:41 UTC  

I'd love to help with/sign an internet bill of rights

2018-08-22 04:05:45 UTC  

Are you kidding me, people would stop posting links anymore.

2018-08-22 04:05:57 UTC  

Linking should be legal without exception

2018-08-22 04:06:07 UTC  

I hate how websites like TPB are outlawed

2018-08-22 04:06:13 UTC  

because all they carry is links

2018-08-22 04:06:28 UTC  

That one stood out to me, because all it is... they are trying to making it impossible to link while gaining as much money they can from it.

2018-08-22 04:07:25 UTC  

I notice a lot that the European union are trying to get as much money they can from Social Media companies, making the taxpayers from foreign nations pay for it all.

2018-08-22 04:07:28 UTC  

I'd be very scared if linking to things was an offense, because I run a URL shortener

2018-08-22 04:07:43 UTC  

and I could get in serious trouble if someone, say, created a redirect to cp

2018-08-22 04:07:56 UTC  

Linking/redirecting should carry no liability

2018-08-22 04:08:37 UTC  

^

2018-08-22 04:09:03 UTC  

It's a very scary world, I don't need liability to what I *link* to

2018-08-22 04:09:08 UTC  

Well that is what they are trying to do.

2018-08-22 04:09:19 UTC  

I have grown so much distain towards the European Union as of late.

2018-08-22 04:09:45 UTC  

plus, the destination of a link can vary, so if linking to illegal material were illegal, then an easy act of sabotage would be to make a link to legitimate content, then change it to something illegal

2018-08-22 04:10:00 UTC  

They are becoming authoritative towards the nations under their umbrella and attacking nations outside that umbrella, namely United States in bid to force them to comply to what they want them to do.

2018-08-22 04:10:14 UTC  

I feel bad for nations like Britain for example.

2018-08-22 04:10:31 UTC  

If I lived in Britain, I'd be fleeing. It can only get worse from here.

2018-08-22 04:10:39 UTC  

European Union started out as a Trade Agreement...

2018-08-22 04:11:05 UTC  

There was nothing about the nations under it's umbrella giving up their sovereignty.

2018-08-22 04:11:45 UTC  

In addition to what you're allowed to do, there's also the matter of surveilence

2018-08-22 04:11:57 UTC  

People seem to confuse the European Union and United Nations as one.

2018-08-22 04:12:04 UTC  

Which can't be further from the truth.

2018-08-22 04:12:34 UTC  

Britain and the USA have deep data harvesters installed in Internet exchange stations and ISP datacenters

2018-08-22 04:12:36 UTC  

United Nations is a group of nations that came together to push back against encroaching Soviet Union.

2018-08-22 04:13:06 UTC  

News Flash... Soviet Union is dead and why should we keep United Nations together?

2018-08-22 04:13:22 UTC  

I think we should dissolve it and put up treaties in its place.

2018-08-22 04:13:28 UTC  

Agreements between nations...