Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-08-22 03:54:23 UTC  

I don't think it would have that much impact through.

2018-08-22 03:54:25 UTC  

in the middle of a mid term so not yet lol

2018-08-22 03:54:42 UTC  

depends on how close i can get to them during the campaign

2018-08-22 03:54:49 UTC  

I'm hanging around places like this hoping to get enough people on a common proposal to make a mass campaign.

2018-08-22 03:54:52 UTC  

from the grassroots.

2018-08-22 03:54:58 UTC  

yea

2018-08-22 03:55:07 UTC  

I think waiting for the miderm campaigns is probably too late.

2018-08-22 03:55:15 UTC  

Unless we want the dems making the legislation.

2018-08-22 03:55:31 UTC  

we do have sane dems oddly enough

2018-08-22 03:55:37 UTC  

And considering how close they seem to be pushing censorship, I don't really trust them.

2018-08-22 03:55:41 UTC  

we just have to highlight them

2018-08-22 03:55:49 UTC  

Yeah, but the leadership and the think tanks aren't.

2018-08-22 03:55:54 UTC  

i know

2018-08-22 03:56:00 UTC  

thats the main problem

2018-08-22 03:56:04 UTC  

Media matters and Shareblue are the ones really pushing the fake news angle.

2018-08-22 03:56:10 UTC  

I think we need to get ahead of them.

2018-08-22 03:56:13 UTC  

def

2018-08-22 03:56:26 UTC  

its a matter of how

2018-08-22 03:56:53 UTC  

I was highly skeptical about the massive mainstream push to keep net neutrality. A friend of mine who was a lawyer told me that it would give more regulation control to the gov't, and from what I had seen, it seemed to be that way. I'm still undecided on the whole net neutrality thing.

2018-08-22 03:56:58 UTC  

They *will* pass legislation if the get power. And I'd bet it would be outright fascistic (in the true definition--government and corporations colluding to seize collective power through censorship and law)

2018-08-22 03:56:59 UTC  

I think the internet bill of rights should mirror our bill of rights in the way, but adopted to use for internet.
Right to free exchange of ideas without being isolation or prosecution
Right to free expression without fearing for your life
Right to free speech without the fear of censorship
Right to creative enterprise without the fear of being coarse, intimidated, or shutdown
Right to own your own wealth without loosing it due to third parties
Right to free press without fear of being coarse, intimidated, or blackmailed

2018-08-22 03:57:03 UTC  

I mean i could start posting publicly tomorrow about something but idk what kinda impact that might have

2018-08-22 03:57:04 UTC  

It needs work, but something like that.

2018-08-22 03:57:14 UTC  

without*

2018-08-22 03:57:23 UTC  

on the first one

2018-08-22 03:57:31 UTC  

@Termer I like Pai's stance actually. It's a good philosophy but the NN legislation as written and passed was a huge power grab that could be too easily abused.

2018-08-22 03:57:40 UTC  

Thanks Lagomaster.

2018-08-22 03:57:56 UTC  

@Lagomaster24 please @ me.

2018-08-22 03:58:04 UTC  

isolated or persecuted*

2018-08-22 03:58:24 UTC  

Also, look into the Internet Bill of Rights proposed by AT&T. calling for an internet bill of rights will certainly be conflated with their proposal.

2018-08-22 03:58:25 UTC  

Basically we hammer it down so there is no wiggle room for misinterruptation by the social media, government, and mainstream news.

2018-08-22 03:58:44 UTC  

also look at the post I made earlier from KiA.

2018-08-22 03:59:28 UTC  

We have to keep moving, we can't stagnate due to fear of getting it wrong.

2018-08-22 04:01:29 UTC  

@Timcast What is your opinion on the internet bill of rights idea? Should we allow regulation which off-chance government can use regulations to control what we see, say, or do? Or should we go towards creating a bill of rights that could allow us to form a agreement with the government and social media corporations that they will allow us these rights, if they infringe upon these rights, they become open to being held accountable to the laws of the nation?

2018-08-22 04:01:36 UTC  

Yeah. We're really late to the punch. Really late.

2018-08-22 04:02:00 UTC  

And Warner is already drafted up what he wants to do to fight 'fake news.' Very scary stuff from a privacy standpoint.

2018-08-22 04:03:00 UTC  

The bill of rights for internet in my opinion should in some way allow us to hold social media and government accountable when they infringe upon the right agreed upon. They won't loose control of their websites and corporations, but they will be held accountable if they infringe our rights.

2018-08-22 04:03:00 UTC  

If you wanted to name it, it depends on who you're presenting it to

2018-08-22 04:03:27 UTC  

I really think regulations isn't the way to go.

2018-08-22 04:03:54 UTC  

For example if you were aiming a press release at the public you could call it a universal shitposting license

2018-08-22 04:04:36 UTC  

In congress you could probably call it something like the Anti Censorship Bill