Without them and the USSR, the US stays as the world hegemon. Having a single hegemon is the best situation in terms of stability.

I notice once United States started to get weaken, all hell broke loose.

Wait ten years and see what happens

Europe wants their own army and isnt scared of russia at all

You mean Britain?

No, Europe as a whole

They want a unified European Military to replace NATO

There would be too much red tape, Europe will crumble before they can attack Russia.

Nations often unify as a centralized entity for wartime, but often cause trouble when they don't decentralize again. We can see this in many cases throughout history

There are two reasons to consolidate military power: defense and conquest

Only way that would happen if they dissolve all sovereignty of the nations under its umbrella and take control of all assets available.

They're already doing that

Free movement zone eliminates control over who they let in

I always found that free movement idea to be stupid.

EU court is above all nation courts

All it takes is one nation out of all them to led bad actors in...

What is going to stop them from moving to your nation?

A good way to understand the good intentions of centralized government is to read the federalist papers

The road to hell is paved in good intentions.

But the unforseen consequences come later, mostly after war

When it's not needed as much

Centralizing power always ends up corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolute.

So many quotes from founding fathers and influential figures really hit home on the issues.

That is why history is important in my eyes.

I actually take issue with the ratification of the constitution (of course not all of it), but the previous constitution was pretty good, other than the inability to unify for war

There is one good thing about these clashes... it is forcing people to research.

There is a silver-lining in everything.

I just hope we learn from it before it is too late.

I think all americans should draw their own conclusions from the strife that came from the constitution

Have I been a good debater? Think I fit in here?

I'd say you've been a good debater

^_^

It has been a while since I debated...

I feel rusty.

It is hard to find an healthy debate lately thanks to the atmosphere as of lately.

I've always found that there are places where you can be honest, but not usually in the public

I got into a debate with an Antifa member... he plugged his ears to all evidence I showed him and kept calling me a Nazi sympathizer. :\

I've never had the chance to really be in the field

He used all caps and insulted me, calling me names and accusing me being racist/fascists.

EU is trying to be a Federation when it can only really function as a Confederation imo

Well I wasn't there in person, it was over the internet.