Message from @Rouqen

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2018-08-31 18:17:44 UTC  

you can't have socialism or communism when there is a chance people will starve.

2018-08-31 18:17:48 UTC  

or go homeless

2018-08-31 18:17:51 UTC  

yea

2018-08-31 18:17:52 UTC  

We tried that, @Rouqen, the colonists pooled there resources when the started but after a whole people fought about what was a fair share. It ended with the line the man who does not work does not eat

2018-08-31 18:18:10 UTC  

You rite

2018-08-31 18:18:14 UTC  

Was wrong

2018-08-31 18:18:26 UTC  

liberal socialism is from thomas moores 14th century book titled "utopia"

2018-08-31 18:18:44 UTC  

you also can't have socialism/communism if you have more people taking than you have producing.

2018-08-31 18:18:45 UTC  

My gran is against "money-grabbers"

2018-08-31 18:18:49 UTC  

In order for the USSR to feed it's self it had to embrace Capitalist reforms in it's agrocultural sectors. Half the food was grown in small gardens and sold for proffit by collective farmers

2018-08-31 18:18:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/485151512587141120/40432698_2148720832069792_8480661595968503808_n.png

2018-08-31 18:19:05 UTC  

She grew up in the Soviet union

2018-08-31 18:19:17 UTC  

which means you need to throw out those not producing enough. And if you do that, you create an enemy. So better to dispose of them first.

2018-08-31 18:19:28 UTC  

And commies got in her head

2018-08-31 18:20:20 UTC  

you sure she is just not old an annoyed she can't be a "money-grabber" anymore and instead needs to take from society more than she puts in?

2018-08-31 18:20:38 UTC  

She contributes

2018-08-31 18:20:44 UTC  

Teacher

2018-08-31 18:20:55 UTC  

Sounds to me like another authoritarian (censored) that doesn't want anyone to hear what counter points to her (censored)

2018-08-31 18:20:56 UTC  

And she helps the gov of her town

2018-08-31 18:21:27 UTC  

That's right, don't debate. Just punch em

2018-08-31 18:21:34 UTC  

She definitely just doesn't take

2018-08-31 18:21:39 UTC  

She does stuff

2018-08-31 18:22:04 UTC  

But pure capitalism is not exactly her thing it looks like it

2018-08-31 18:22:19 UTC  

she a public school teacher?

2018-08-31 18:22:21 UTC  

But is any of it contributing? Or is it just doing something for the sake of making it look like she is doing something?

2018-08-31 18:22:25 UTC  

I grew up with capitalism in my head but I am open to ideas

2018-08-31 18:22:43 UTC  

@Grenade123 high school and uni tutor

2018-08-31 18:22:46 UTC  

In Ukraine

2018-08-31 18:22:51 UTC  

Not in US

2018-08-31 18:23:01 UTC  

That is a big deal

2018-08-31 18:23:02 UTC  

ah, fuck if i know how schools are funded there

2018-08-31 18:23:07 UTC  

We don't pay them well

2018-08-31 18:23:18 UTC  

are there any teachers that are paid well?

2018-08-31 18:23:21 UTC  

The gov sucks at that

2018-08-31 18:23:30 UTC  

Yeah

2018-08-31 18:23:33 UTC  

Private

2018-08-31 18:23:40 UTC  

And very niche ones

2018-08-31 18:23:49 UTC  

true, i should rephrase

2018-08-31 18:24:00 UTC  

are there any teachers in public schools anywhere that are paid well?

2018-08-31 18:24:09 UTC  

outside of the very very rich areas

2018-08-31 18:24:32 UTC  

I don't think so