is anyone certain on the forming of the universe

theres alot science still doesnt no

i believe its when people think there is an indifferent creator

but ive heard a type of deism where people think the crator set the foundation and left the universe

an indifferent creator doesnt care about our lifes

the christian creator cares verymuch about our lives

thats the difference

cause hes indifferent on what we as people do

hes not a god that watches us

hes just one that laid the foundation and left

now i dont believe that

some people believe god is

an omniphysical god

yes

to some people

some people crave an answer so they need that

which i can respect to a degree

what

@JCEN youre not following what im saying well

no

and you cant dissprove it

so its not worth arguing about

people that believe in a kind of deist creator i wouldnt disagree with

i dont believe in it

im defending @Deleted User stance cause its a fine stance to have

no obviously

but if you cant dissprove it it doesnt make it untrue

@Deleted User thats what im seeing

no its not argument from ignorance

but you can dissprove that

you cant dissprove a indifferent creator

cya

passerby read what i said in the religion chat

thats what speciation is

no wait

speciation is a part of evolution

it happened in humans

with neanderthals

my example of speciation was completley correct

but you said yes and no

yes

but we're only talking about speciation

starting small

but adaptions are a little bit different

i had a hard time understanding adaptions

so like a callus is an adaption

i literally cant even explain it

so like how did life start

?

so the origin of life is unknown i know that, and i dont know enough to go back to how we evolved from bacteria or at least i dont remember enough.

but

i can answer the animals to plants

plants did not evolve into animals

but plants and animals would have a common ancestor

ill make a drawing lol

brb

beautiful isnt it

evolution works alot like a family tree

thats all ive talked about is speciation there are more parts to evolution than that

and honeslty just look it up

look for the evidence

its there

go on a reliable site

i have the perfect thing that you definetly wont watch

but it will answer your questions on how evolution works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw4w1UsOafQ&list=PLAf-ddcD8CaGiAkNznp5lziIW13W6W4zo&index=2

this is the scientist richard dawkins christmas lectures

he does 5 of these and in each one explains a part of evolution

you can find the other 4 on youtube on his channel

we watched these in school

they are fantastic and im actually going to watch them back again

i promise you if you watch these you will understand evolution

i promise

and for the evidence you can go to the Smithonian website and look at the fossils that have been escavated

fossils that show the development of aquatic creatures, into amphibians, into reptiles

"But in order for me to abandon a belief that is very appealing to me, a belief that actually brings me peace, hope, all because of a theory seems.... I don't know .. not smart" - @Deleted User

i think that is totally understandable and reasonable

i felt the same way

so it is known the common ancestor between say a plant and the first animal like organism but i just dont know it

but

lets say it wasnt known

it could still safley be assumed because that how the rest of life works. its like one big family tree

ill find a diagram online

this is a horrible looking timeline lol but its the timeline and evolutionary tree of humans

jeez

you cant even read it lol

i really wish we could go into voice chat and i could explain the tree to you

this one is a bit better but i wish it had the lines

The very first one

Austrolepithicus

Then I guess not the very first one

The third one

It’s a somewhat hard question to answer for me but maybe that’s because of my ignorance. But I know a few reasons. For one they roamed the same parts of Africa as we did. We know that they did not go extinct that they clearly just evolved because of other fossils found of later evolution of the species.

And to be fair it is it’s own species

But slowly through times it evolved into other species which after many other changes turned into us

That’s a poor wording on how evolution works

No