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No it doesn't. in 1790 the only voters were white, landowning males.

I am a citizen yet I cannot vote? Do you know why? I'm not 18. Thats a restriction and yet I am a citizen.

It is the exact same concept as an age restriction.

As is the white and landowning males one.

It ensures they are 1) The ones that were meant for this nation and 2) have a stake in this nation, aren't freeloaders

Landowners have a vested interest in the success of a nation. An inner city minority on welfare does not.

Other than "muh gibs."

Then make military service available as well.

4 years in the military is plenty of sacrifice to be granted the right to vote.

Illegals should be tossed into the ocean Change My Mind

There will never be a 100% white ethnostate in the US, no. But 80% is definitely achievable and not an autistic idea.

Just means you aren't a brainlet small al.

thats what we should do

we should, unironically, catch illegals and toss them into the middle of the Gulf

you would see a massive drop in border hoppers suddenly

thats not a warcrime

cause its not a war

its just defending your borders my dude

get em pinochet style

Americans who use the Swastika are actually brain dead.

No one will be convinced by waving around the flag of a nation that has been demonized for 7 decades and we directly fought against only a couple generatiosn ago.

Not to mention its not even an American symbol.

Americans need to use American symbolism.

Except its goal is entirely different than the goal of Marxist-type socialism.

They fought the entire world you brainlet.

Do you think America would have been able to stand up to the UK, France, Germany, and the USSR?

Ok, this is bad optics, but yes, often times people have to die for the good of others. When a criminal breaks into your home you kill him. Not nicely ask him out.

Bankers definitely deserved it.

The degenerate media definitely deserved it.

The pedophiles definitely deserved it.

Communists definitely deserved it.

I'm not saying that @Al_Bi

But when people say "Violence is always evil" they are either naรฏve or lying.

Definitely depends on who is being genocided.

I'd be ok with drug dealers getting the rope tbh.

And there's a lot of drug dealers in the states.

idk, I wasn't arguing about that.

But you stated that NatSoc as an ideology does not work.

It very clearly made them a mighty nation.

I think most people can agree with that.

I'm not arguing on all of socialism.

But pretending that NatSoc's are the same or similar to Sanders is a very, very far stretch and frankly silly.

And I'm not NatSoc, but I think just about anyone thats looked into the actual ideology can see that.

They stole?

Those homes rightfully belonged to Germany though.

Say what you will for the mistreatment of the Jews, Germany is for Germans.

>that private property rightfully belongs to the people of that nation

Our banks should not be controlled by the likes of the Jews.

Yet they are.

Our media should not be controlled by the likes of the Jews.

Yet they are.

Say what you will, a nation for all is a nation for none. In a family home, people have their own rooms, their own property. Yet not just anyone is allowed to walk in and have a room for themselves.

No, they naturally gravitate towards banking because it is very easy to accumulate wealth through shrewd manipulation of currency rather than actual work.

Like a true parasite.

The rights of private property do not supercede the rights of the people to their own nation.

No, special circumstances have made that a difficult question to answer in a morally acceptable fashion.

However, if Chinese were to begin purchasing excessive amounts of property and power for themselves, then yes.

As they already are on the West Coast, by the way.

You constantly do this thinking face but I think you simply have a misunderstanding of what the nation is.

It is not a work camp for anyone.

Not a super company.

It is a family.

Ok my bad then.

I just took it as a sort of sarcastic remark, no worries.

Then the nation can be sold to the highest bidder, surely?

There should be no "highest bidder" at all. The nation is the nation.

Because they naturally gravitate towards banking, like we've said.

Feel free to look into the history of individuals like Soros.

Controlling currency allows one to control far more than they should.

A frankly sickening amount of power, honestly.

Thats fine.

This is how people change their ideas and grow upon them.

Friendly discussion my dude.

Why's that?

Do you think someone should be able to buy the nation?

I simply took what you said and bloated it to a point that you surely should have to disagree unless you are a very, very libertarian individual. Should someone be able to just purchase the United States if they have the necessary funds?

No matter how impossible that amount to get, lets say someone hypothetically has accumulated enough wealth to do that. Should they be able to?

Well we disagree heavily then.

Are you a libertarian individual?

I hope I don't sound accusatory, I'm just trying to understand better.

Even if you were a communist I would just debate you as normal.

Well now we come to another problem.

The "citizenship" question.

Originally, only whites could be citizens, and only land owning males could vote.

If a right can be granted or taken away at will, is it truly a right, or a privilege?

Well that is what we've done.

Its ok if you are libertarian.

I was 2 years ago as well.

Its a nice ideology that would work if our reality weren't as it were.

The Cossacks are a really good example of that.

Or our own "wild west"

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The 19th amendment was a disaster

i don't think hawaii has too many pro-gun people

honestly we should've given hawaii the puerto rico treatment

if states could act more independently I can almost guarantee that the Mexican population would never had gotten as high as it is now in Texas

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