It looks really cool, very MGTOW like.

The faceless aspect I think better represents MGTOW if that is what you are going for. Kind symbolizes the ghosting in plain sight thing.

I would like to caution against asigning too much blame.

As a MGTOW man we look at the system and live our lives in a way that best suits us.

When you blame someone else you take away your ability to make change

ideally focusing on what you can do and actions that you can take to make your own life better are likely more beneficial to yourself

I'm not saying that understanding the system is bad

I am just cautioning that there is a fine line between identifying a certain condition and become a victim by assigning blame and thus responsibility to another.

I agree that the banking and tax systems are messed up.

I'm just saying that there are ways around things.

I guess a really good example would be in MMO games. If they devs do some hotfix to WoW that disadvantages your class... You could complain about how Survial Hunters just got fucked last night or you could figure out which new spec to switch to or how to change your gameplay to adjust or maybe just play a different character etc...

So when you blame someone else you remove your ability to change the situation. When you take responsibility you put yourself in a postion of control and power.

There is a fine line between learning the rules of the game an complaining about your victimhoood.

ya

I believe life is all about perspective. In MGTOW circles I try to bring things back to a perspective that keeps personal power and control over one's life at the forefront.

I'm 47 so I've been around and can't fully recall where all of my base viewpoints came from.

So it's nearly impossible to smile and still be angry. Likewise the act of standing tall with your head highand shoulders straight makes you confident.

So what you guys are saying is true. But to me a better viewpoint is how can I live my life how I want. If there are hurdles figure a way around them. Don't focus on the obstacle look for the path over or around it.

You can work for cash. Travel to a different country do maritime work, start a business etc....

or you can just pay the taxes and save up and get out of the system as quickly as possible.

ya it's robbery. you can fight the " good fight " or you can focus on living a life that you enjoy.

MGTOW and black pill seem to be closely tied together.

you can always live a life that you enjoy.

shit happens in life. I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm just saying that you have to pick your fights and focus on what you can change

If someone walks up to you and puts a gun to your face and asks for your wallet and you have $100 in it... you can decide that it's not right what that guy is doing and fight him to keep your wallet or you can say " it's just $100 I can make that again pretty easily "

So corporation are created by the government and they have every right to tax them. However corporations pay very little tax. You an start a corp and have it pay for your car, your phone, internet insurance, etc... and deduct all of it from taxes

You can get your taxes very low if you want. Or you can bitch about how unfair that they are. I'm just saying the main viewpoint should be " what can I do " not " what can't I do ".

I'm not an investment guru. I just know people that own their own business and get a lot of their expenses written off as business expenses.

so you get the company to pay for things like your car and then that becomes tax deductible.

again I'm not the guy to ask. I'm just saying if you want to pay less in taxes then you need to work for yourself

maritime work for example is free from income tax since the labor is done on the open seas.

Ya there are a million ways

the point is that the blue pilled sheeple path is slavery

if you want freedom you have to look for freedom. If you are looking for what is holding you back you can only find limitation.

You could learn a trade or become a handy man and do work for cash

I have to jump in the shower and then head out guys. So I'll TTYL.

MGTOW is pretty much the biggest threat to just about everybody so yes they will take jabs at us.

women tell you. They just speak a different language

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath I don't think you've thought it through much if that is your view

Women have been used since the dawn of time as a tool to control men.

A man without a wife and kids, or even worse a man without a need to possess a woman is a man with nothing to hold over his head

@machtyn That's very common. As a matter of fact I would say that is what the MGTOW community is all about.

Men trying to figure out how to live their lives once they realize that everything that they were told about how they should live their life previously was a lie or told just to control them.

Well self discovery is kind of beaten out of us right from the get go

I think MGTOW is closer to the natural way that men exist than anything that is taught to us.

I think back to the Clint Eastwood movies that I watched as a kid now with MGTOW mindset and I think he gave us a glimpse of what being a man in the world is about.

I have to run afk and grab my mic incase I want to chime in.

I'll check my setting

wow. It is really rough listening to my own voice

With the caller talking about alphas, it would seem to me that with MGTOW being about seeking value outside of women that putting effort into becoming an alpha would be kind of anti-MGTOW

I somehow got moved to afk not sure what happened

I have not drinken in years but I used to be a burbon man myself.

Hybrid you kept preaching MRA voting stuff which is like the opposite of going your own way.

@Hybrid when trying to learn listening is often better than talking.

Okay guys thanks for the stream. 2:30 am here so I'll catch you all later.

@machtyn Sounds like a decent plan. I would just keep in mind that any time that you try to quit or avoid something you are picking the hard way. I find it much easier to just look at something from an overall perspective and realize that while something may have some alluring characteristics that you have decided that taken as a whole you just would rather choose differently.

I've been monk mode for 12 -15 years solid but on and off pretty much my whole life.

Sometimes I see women that get flirty with me and my dick wants me to do something about it but my brain knows that nothing even remotely beneficial can come from it so I just walk away.

For me whenever I followed through on attraction I was always disappointed. Best case scenario is that I would bust a nut and feel like it wasn't even worth the calories that I burned. But my experience is probably not normal.

47 here and I agree my life gets better each year. All of my married friends are miserable or at least 90% of them are anyway.

@Deleted User same with me. I spent most of my life thinking that there was no one else like me.

@ yes sounds very familiar

At some point someone asked me if I was MGTOW and I said " what is that? ".

So I looked it up and discovered that there were others like me

When I was a kid people used to describe me as " doing my own thing ".

so when I found men " going their own way " I suddenly realized that I was born MGTOW.

@Deleted User I don't remember exactly when I noticed PC culture but 1992 seems about right.

I graduated high school in '89 and worked in the trades

so I did not have much exposure to the office enviornment

anyway I have to run off for a bit. BBL.

Ya so much potatoe tonight on the TFM show

I've been noticing a lot of that lately.

I think that MGTOW is getting big enough now that it has passed the event horizon point

we now have people just coming to it because it's popular not really having any idea what it's really about

like it's passed the point of critcal mass.

Ya but I take it personal

For the first 40+ years of my life I thought that I was just a werido and that there was no one else like me.

Then I found MGTOW and realized that I was not the only one.

I found a home full of like minded people.

now all the normies are trying to become roommates with me.

agreed on that aspect. But it is also a community

the community can become over run and polluted to the point that it's not worth getting involved with.

hopefully it stays that way

Sandman has Fatcat buying her influence into his content.

Aussie TZ is totally wrong. They have their days and night backwards.

I used to stay up all night and play eve online. I would finish up my shift by handing things over to the Aussie TZ peeps.

That has to show you how thirsty some of these cucks are. Those fat chicks would not think that they were all of that unless they had dudes willing to give it to them.

what does the " F " mean?

Thanks. That helped make sense of it.

I tried FFXIV during beta. The game was great but Square Enix sucked

I haven't played the game since about 2 weeks after release.

Thanks for the show HHH

I can't post comments on youtube. I did purchase one of the MGTOW shirst and it was a huge hit over the weekend. People love it

I have to go afk guys

On the plus side I've been going my own way my entire life and I'm nearing half of a century. I never thought that me just doing my own thing would have any significance outside my own life. However it seems western women, and western societies in general, are freaking the fuck out about us MGTOW walking off the plantation.

@MufflePuff Well outside of all the female MRA videos you see women trying to infultrate MGTOW channels and even in my real life I've had women start conversations with me about the plight of men as if they were trying to show support for me or something. I've even had intelligent women mention that women getting voting rights was probably a mistake

I've been at this game my whole life and never once have I seen women try and kiss my ass the way that they have been in the past year.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath I agree with you on that.

@Z-Man (soon to be Y A) Sincerity does not mean the same thing for women that it does for men

men are logical and therefore being sincere for a man is being true to his beliefs and what he determines to be logically true. Women are emotional creature and therefore being scincere is being true to their emotions and how they feel which can change from moment to moment.