Troye
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Its crazy how much like hell it is
I see both sides on immigration. On the one hand open borders are a disaster and can not be allowed. And if the people coming in are going to have bad values we don't want an increase of people like that. On the other hand the US was built entirely on immigrants, many "illegal". And I support people trying to make a better life for themselves. Most of the people coming in work harder than a lot of legal citizens. Its tough because neither option is good
I don't support illegal immigration btw
The only people in the US who aren't immigrants or recently decended from them are native Americans
90+% of the natives died
This nation has existed for 250 years. Its only been around 150 years or so when most people weren't direct immigrants
That's a short amount of time as far as nations go
I'm not saying "lets go open borders". We need immigration reform. I also believe immigrants need to assimilate much better. I'm simply pointing out that we're a country of immigrants white or otherwise. And that I support people's desire to better their lives. That's exactly what white people did coming to America. The only difference was we killed off the people already here
If you look at it in terms of the span of history. White people migrated to the Americas 200-300 years ago. There were none here before then. As far as history is concerned we're far more immigrants than mexicans are
Yes, we killed off tge native population
Look I'm not a fan of crying over what happened in the past and I completely realize this has little bearing on current policy. I simply believe its worth realizing that we're all human and all basically the same people. At birth at least
Was mostly just enjoying an argument of philosophy. I support immigration reform and oppose illegal immigration. And I'm in favor of encouraging immigrants to assimilate. I just also am in favor of human rights in general for all people
@Jokerfaic Also, yes we definitely need foreign policy reform and to fix the holes forming in our own country
@UnScottable If we enforce assimilation, I don't think the cap would be necessary. Problem that would never be enforced. So having that cap is probably a good idea.
Are you sure that graph is accurate
Well, that's definitely not good if it is. What it says to me is that we need to focus on educating blacks and hispanics on what's actually happening and why it matters. If we don't its only going to keep getting worse
My best friends in Philly were black. I tried to convince a few of them why it was better to vote for Trump. But all they could see was racism
It was actually kind of disturbing
Barely
The problem is the media
The media keeps pumping out anti Trump racism rhetoric. And people of certain demographics have been raised to believe those media sources
There are outliers, but the majority (even my extremely logical close friends) couldn't see past the endless stream of racial propaganda being fed to them
In our society, yes
In terms of life, depends on the person
The two biggest problems in our country right now are the government establishment on the left and right and the media pushing the multi cultural sectionality and racial/minorities agendas. Its a distraction meant to divide the country so the people in power can continue to operate behind the scenes without anyone knowing
Definitely could have worked with proper advertisement
There needs to be more focus on appealing to people in a bipartisan way while still holding strong and good values. Its not easy to do, but its one of the few solutions
If you can achieve outreach more than the left then they defeat themselves
Not that that's necessarily achievable, but its a good way of looking at things
@UnScottable You need to approach it from two sides. Yes mass immigration needs to be changed, but you have to provide a convincing moral argument to both sides. Not just your own.
At the same time you have to look at it as an opportunity to teach people about what values are important to keep america a strong and good country. If we don't do that with everyone including hispanics and blacks then we are only defeating ourselves.
Dying on a hill is always a worse option to achieving victory by going around the hill
Gonna go cook food and figure out life stuffs
Have fun all
Stupid fucking ads for Mike Bloomberg
They're everywhere
Fuck off you loser ( Mike) no one cares
Endorsed Cenk why?
Lol
California would actually be salvagable if we put all the nuts in one section and gave it to mexico
They could be happy living with all the minorities
Would help the country
We have enough land
Its all desert anyway
Garbage land
Yep lol
Have a massive antifa and black lives matter convention
Its been a long work in progress
Of universities teaching socialist and communist ideals
It doesn't have all that much to do with Russia anymore, but its important to learn about
We were extremely close to WWIII
Like insanely close
I wish we could just put all the career politicians on a ship and send them to another planet
So sick of the constant political maneuvering played out endlessly in a game that no one wins
@KyonJ Sources?
We'd have to go really far back in time
@Swedishmafia101 lmao nice
I think this chat devolved into a free for all
Dont you mean Civil War 2
They'd have to get ahold of the nuke button first
Lol
Tell her to quit while you're choking her out. Pretty good motivation if you can't breath
Hit on -> sex
Sex -> choking
Choking -> smoking
Its pretty straight forward
Doesn't he hate antifa tho
What strange unknown texts have I stumbled upon?
Where does it say they were asian?
So is this like the shitposting channel
I'll take that as a yes
How is Halo politics
@The Electric Lizard That's actually really dope. I don't believe everyone should go around stealing. But I have to admire someone like that
Become friends with MrBeast
He does it like every week
Except with his own money
What the actual fuck
I hate this politically correct bullshit and media derangement so much
Trump acts like a clown, but he's not that bad and has done some good things
Fascism has become the new nazi
Neither mean anything anymore
The left is more fascist than the right
Not millions
But otherwise more or less
Its that they see societal norms that enforce traditional values as bad for multiple reasons
Its really unfortunate
Most people on the left don't realize that 's what's happening
I feel bad for people that lost who are close to the end of their lives
They have nothing to truly make them happy, no idea of truth in the world, and odds are no family that truly loves them
I know most of the time they had opportunities to see the truth
But I still feel bad for them
They're alone and dying
A big deciding factor would be if the media could sway people and where the government and military decided to stand on it
I really hope they don't try a secret senate vote to impeach Trump, that would just be pathetic
I'm just sick of the pointless delusional acid trip the media and left are on. Its driving the country to focus on only negative things that have no purpose or value. Its driving people further apart and utterly wasting so much resources that could be actually spent improving the world
Nah, the elite in government and media have a huge say in what they focus on. I'm definitely going to keep blaming their twisted narrative
That's like blaming fucked up grandparents for why your kid is a mass murderer when they barely see each other
It goes deeper than Russia
Their narratives aren't the same if you look at them
The elites don't want to be Russia. They want to be their own version of god
The only real similarities are the authoritarian tendencies, the socialist propaganda concealing totalitarianism, and the use of censorship and propaganda
@ComradeChaos Saying that "all truths are half truths that can never be fully true" is too much of a simplification and doesn't see through to the reality of our understanding. A much better way to put it would be "most things that are considered to be truth only touch on one or more aspects of a deeper and more complex truth" "all things that we as humans claim to know as truth contain varying levels of actual truth" and "some beliefs and ideas are more true than others and it takes a deep understanding of true logic and nature of the universe/understanding that our grasp on said nature is ephemeral to truly start to work out which "truths" are based on real truth and which are not"
That's pretty funny, he deserves an award
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