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2019-12-19 07:19:17 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Its crazy how much like hell it is

2019-12-19 07:23:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I see both sides on immigration. On the one hand open borders are a disaster and can not be allowed. And if the people coming in are going to have bad values we don't want an increase of people like that. On the other hand the US was built entirely on immigrants, many "illegal". And I support people trying to make a better life for themselves. Most of the people coming in work harder than a lot of legal citizens. Its tough because neither option is good

2019-12-19 07:24:18 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I don't support illegal immigration btw

2019-12-19 07:25:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The only people in the US who aren't immigrants or recently decended from them are native Americans

2019-12-19 07:27:16 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

90+% of the natives died

2019-12-19 07:28:31 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

This nation has existed for 250 years. Its only been around 150 years or so when most people weren't direct immigrants

2019-12-19 07:29:48 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That's a short amount of time as far as nations go

2019-12-19 07:32:40 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I'm not saying "lets go open borders". We need immigration reform. I also believe immigrants need to assimilate much better. I'm simply pointing out that we're a country of immigrants white or otherwise. And that I support people's desire to better their lives. That's exactly what white people did coming to America. The only difference was we killed off the people already here

2019-12-19 07:34:48 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

If you look at it in terms of the span of history. White people migrated to the Americas 200-300 years ago. There were none here before then. As far as history is concerned we're far more immigrants than mexicans are

2019-12-19 07:35:58 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Yes, we killed off tge native population

2019-12-19 07:37:13 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Look I'm not a fan of crying over what happened in the past and I completely realize this has little bearing on current policy. I simply believe its worth realizing that we're all human and all basically the same people. At birth at least

2019-12-19 07:39:54 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Was mostly just enjoying an argument of philosophy. I support immigration reform and oppose illegal immigration. And I'm in favor of encouraging immigrants to assimilate. I just also am in favor of human rights in general for all people

2019-12-19 07:41:13 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

@Jokerfaic Also, yes we definitely need foreign policy reform and to fix the holes forming in our own country

2019-12-19 07:43:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

@UnScottable If we enforce assimilation, I don't think the cap would be necessary. Problem that would never be enforced. So having that cap is probably a good idea.

2019-12-19 07:45:22 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Are you sure that graph is accurate

2019-12-19 07:47:35 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Well, that's definitely not good if it is. What it says to me is that we need to focus on educating blacks and hispanics on what's actually happening and why it matters. If we don't its only going to keep getting worse

2019-12-19 07:50:15 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

My best friends in Philly were black. I tried to convince a few of them why it was better to vote for Trump. But all they could see was racism

2019-12-19 07:50:26 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

It was actually kind of disturbing

2019-12-19 07:51:01 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Barely

2019-12-19 07:51:16 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The problem is the media

2019-12-19 07:52:27 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The media keeps pumping out anti Trump racism rhetoric. And people of certain demographics have been raised to believe those media sources

2019-12-19 07:53:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

There are outliers, but the majority (even my extremely logical close friends) couldn't see past the endless stream of racial propaganda being fed to them

2019-12-19 07:55:46 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

In our society, yes

2019-12-19 07:56:04 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

In terms of life, depends on the person

2019-12-19 08:00:13 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The two biggest problems in our country right now are the government establishment on the left and right and the media pushing the multi cultural sectionality and racial/minorities agendas. Its a distraction meant to divide the country so the people in power can continue to operate behind the scenes without anyone knowing

2019-12-19 08:02:46 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Definitely could have worked with proper advertisement

2019-12-19 08:04:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

There needs to be more focus on appealing to people in a bipartisan way while still holding strong and good values. Its not easy to do, but its one of the few solutions

2019-12-19 08:07:29 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

If you can achieve outreach more than the left then they defeat themselves

2019-12-19 08:08:10 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Not that that's necessarily achievable, but its a good way of looking at things

2019-12-19 08:13:48 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

@UnScottable You need to approach it from two sides. Yes mass immigration needs to be changed, but you have to provide a convincing moral argument to both sides. Not just your own.

At the same time you have to look at it as an opportunity to teach people about what values are important to keep america a strong and good country. If we don't do that with everyone including hispanics and blacks then we are only defeating ourselves.

2019-12-19 08:14:31 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Dying on a hill is always a worse option to achieving victory by going around the hill

2019-12-19 08:15:50 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Gonna go cook food and figure out life stuffs

2019-12-19 08:15:54 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Have fun all

2019-12-19 09:44:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Stupid fucking ads for Mike Bloomberg

2019-12-19 09:45:10 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They're everywhere

2019-12-19 09:45:45 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Fuck off you loser ( Mike) no one cares

2019-12-19 09:46:17 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Endorsed Cenk why?

2019-12-19 09:46:48 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Lol

2019-12-19 09:50:33 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

California would actually be salvagable if we put all the nuts in one section and gave it to mexico

2019-12-19 09:50:54 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They could be happy living with all the minorities

2019-12-19 09:51:26 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Would help the country

2019-12-19 09:51:40 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

We have enough land

2019-12-19 09:51:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Its all desert anyway

2019-12-19 09:51:52 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Garbage land

2019-12-19 09:52:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Yep lol

2019-12-19 09:52:42 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Have a massive antifa and black lives matter convention

2019-12-19 09:54:13 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Its been a long work in progress

2019-12-19 09:54:48 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Of universities teaching socialist and communist ideals

2019-12-19 09:55:39 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

It doesn't have all that much to do with Russia anymore, but its important to learn about

2019-12-19 09:55:55 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

We were extremely close to WWIII

2019-12-19 09:56:06 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Like insanely close

2019-12-19 10:06:05 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I wish we could just put all the career politicians on a ship and send them to another planet

2019-12-19 10:07:15 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

So sick of the constant political maneuvering played out endlessly in a game that no one wins

2019-12-19 11:38:05 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

@KyonJ Sources?

2019-12-19 11:42:51 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

We'd have to go really far back in time

2019-12-19 12:00:31 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  
2019-12-19 12:04:00 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I think this chat devolved into a free for all

2019-12-19 12:06:17 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Dont you mean Civil War 2

2019-12-19 12:07:39 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They'd have to get ahold of the nuke button first

2019-12-19 12:08:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Lol

2019-12-19 12:10:06 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Tell her to quit while you're choking her out. Pretty good motivation if you can't breath

2019-12-19 12:11:11 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Hit on -> sex
Sex -> choking
Choking -> smoking

2019-12-19 12:11:18 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Its pretty straight forward

2019-12-19 12:13:44 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Doesn't he hate antifa tho

2019-12-20 01:20:49 UTC [Athens #amazin-studies]  

What strange unknown texts have I stumbled upon?

2019-12-20 01:22:54 UTC [Athens #tholos_news]  

Where does it say they were asian?

2019-12-20 01:29:43 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

So is this like the shitposting channel

2019-12-20 01:30:42 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I'll take that as a yes

2019-12-21 08:23:35 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

How is Halo politics

2019-12-25 00:24:51 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

@The Electric Lizard That's actually really dope. I don't believe everyone should go around stealing. But I have to admire someone like that

2019-12-25 00:26:16 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Become friends with MrBeast

2019-12-25 00:26:24 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

He does it like every week

2019-12-25 00:26:31 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Except with his own money

2019-12-26 16:37:25 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

What the actual fuck

2019-12-26 16:38:25 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I hate this politically correct bullshit and media derangement so much

2019-12-26 16:38:51 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Trump acts like a clown, but he's not that bad and has done some good things

2019-12-26 16:41:29 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Fascism has become the new nazi

2019-12-26 16:41:39 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Neither mean anything anymore

2019-12-26 16:42:09 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The left is more fascist than the right

2019-12-26 16:43:26 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Not millions

2019-12-26 16:43:41 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

But otherwise more or less

2019-12-26 16:45:23 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Its that they see societal norms that enforce traditional values as bad for multiple reasons

2019-12-26 16:46:13 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Its really unfortunate

2019-12-26 16:47:06 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Most people on the left don't realize that 's what's happening

2019-12-26 22:42:53 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I feel bad for people that lost who are close to the end of their lives

2019-12-26 22:43:55 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They have nothing to truly make them happy, no idea of truth in the world, and odds are no family that truly loves them

2019-12-26 22:44:49 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I know most of the time they had opportunities to see the truth

2019-12-26 22:44:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

But I still feel bad for them

2019-12-26 22:45:05 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They're alone and dying

2019-12-26 23:08:43 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

A big deciding factor would be if the media could sway people and where the government and military decided to stand on it

2019-12-26 23:09:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I really hope they don't try a secret senate vote to impeach Trump, that would just be pathetic

2019-12-26 23:12:39 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I'm just sick of the pointless delusional acid trip the media and left are on. Its driving the country to focus on only negative things that have no purpose or value. Its driving people further apart and utterly wasting so much resources that could be actually spent improving the world

2019-12-26 23:14:40 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Nah, the elite in government and media have a huge say in what they focus on. I'm definitely going to keep blaming their twisted narrative

2019-12-26 23:15:43 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That's like blaming fucked up grandparents for why your kid is a mass murderer when they barely see each other

2019-12-26 23:15:57 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

It goes deeper than Russia

2019-12-26 23:16:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Their narratives aren't the same if you look at them

2019-12-26 23:17:22 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The elites don't want to be Russia. They want to be their own version of god

2019-12-26 23:19:49 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The only real similarities are the authoritarian tendencies, the socialist propaganda concealing totalitarianism, and the use of censorship and propaganda

2019-12-26 23:34:10 UTC [Athens #amazin-studies]  

@ComradeChaos Saying that "all truths are half truths that can never be fully true" is too much of a simplification and doesn't see through to the reality of our understanding. A much better way to put it would be "most things that are considered to be truth only touch on one or more aspects of a deeper and more complex truth" "all things that we as humans claim to know as truth contain varying levels of actual truth" and "some beliefs and ideas are more true than others and it takes a deep understanding of true logic and nature of the universe/understanding that our grasp on said nature is ephemeral to truly start to work out which "truths" are based on real truth and which are not"

2019-12-26 23:39:33 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That's pretty funny, he deserves an award

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