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2019-08-23 01:34:19 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Did they ever state the date the show is set in? Because a lot of the technologies seem a bit later than that

2019-08-23 01:34:47 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Like, i would estimate late 14th/early 15th century from havibg watched it

2019-08-23 01:34:53 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I never played the games, though

2019-08-23 01:38:01 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Also, this was _long_ before the church had any of the reformations that has calmed it down today. This was presumably before the Protestant-Catholic wars, in a territory right on the edge of Islamic invasion, in the grip of several competing monotheistic religions (Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, whatever remnants of paganism remained)

2019-08-23 01:38:41 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Yeah, this was right on the cusp of the collapse of the Byzantine Empire and Islamic threat, then

2019-08-23 01:39:27 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Religious zealotry against due to hostile foreignersbwould have made religious tensions very high

2019-08-23 01:40:13 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

And the Catholic Church was certainly corrupt

2019-08-23 01:40:24 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

While the scale might be overblown

2019-08-23 01:41:16 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I personally chalked that partly up to an insane rogue element of tbe church rather than the _entirety_ of Catholic clergy being that degree

2019-08-23 01:41:48 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Manga of Attack is better

2019-08-23 01:42:07 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

And you mean parasyte: the maxim?

2019-08-23 01:42:16 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Yeah, it certainly would

2019-08-23 01:42:27 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Plus 1476 is like
What

2019-08-23 01:43:04 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

20, 30 years after the collapse of the Byzantines?

2019-08-23 01:43:04 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Berserk

2019-08-23 01:43:06 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

_**Go read Berserk**_

2019-08-23 01:43:54 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Was it? I do not know all that much about Vlad

2019-08-23 01:43:56 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

20, 30 years after the collapse of the Byzantines?

2019-08-23 01:44:01 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

That is a cool detail

2019-08-23 01:44:17 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I know that much

2019-08-23 01:44:44 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

King of Wallachia, impaled people on spikes, had beef with the Ottoman Turks

2019-08-23 01:45:09 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

What

2019-08-23 01:45:13 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Blood wine

2019-08-23 01:46:25 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I mean
Again
I personally considered it to be partly the result of a particularly bad regional church, rather than necessarily the entirety of Catholicism being that bad

2019-08-23 01:46:55 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Anyone here familiar with Shoukoku no Altair

2019-08-23 01:47:55 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I wonder if Ubel Blatt finished, I have not checked up on it in months

2019-08-23 01:48:14 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Megumin, 15?
_Lies_

2019-08-23 01:49:03 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

We have really only seen the local church
So I am withholding judgment on the rest of it

2019-08-23 01:49:18 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Until such time as we see more

2019-08-23 01:50:51 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Oh
Yeah
I did a cursory read over Vlad a while ago
Holy shit, Wallachia was brutal

2019-08-23 01:50:59 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Was _not_ just Vlad

2019-08-23 01:52:38 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

So
Eh, I can see it going too far with it later on
Again, I am withholding further judgment for time being, considering that we have seen only a small portion of it

2019-08-23 01:53:49 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

The heck

2019-08-23 01:54:39 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Wallachia was literally the frontline against Turkish invasion at that point in time

2019-08-23 01:55:28 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

By contrast, elsewhere, Europe was actually opening up more to alternative ideas, science and the like at the time

2019-08-23 01:56:20 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Yeah, and the late 15th century and early 16th is when the Italian Renaissance got into swing

2019-08-23 01:56:27 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Ideas began taking route

2019-08-23 01:57:20 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I mean
The Catholics burnt _people_ for such during the Catholic-Protestant wars

2019-08-23 01:57:42 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Kinda

2019-08-23 01:58:05 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Discussing the context surrounding it and possibly explaining some of its questionable elements

2019-08-23 02:01:54 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Well

2019-08-23 02:02:14 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

_Especially_ considering that demon's speech to the bishop

2019-08-23 02:02:43 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I cam imagine the Devil playing some part in having distantly affected the church in killing her

2019-08-23 02:05:03 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

The point is questioning whether that is actually a problem with some roots in anti-Catholicism/Progressivism

2019-08-23 02:05:48 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Personally, I find it within my willing suspension of disbelief, given the time and place

2019-08-23 02:07:07 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

They were _looking_ to murder her

2019-08-23 02:07:14 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Witchcraft was a pretext

2019-08-23 02:07:54 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Again, the time and place was full of corruption

2019-08-23 02:08:20 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Having glanced over just rhe _wikipedia_ page on Vlad the Impaler

2019-08-23 02:08:43 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

It does not seem too far-fetched for the context

2019-08-23 02:09:50 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

And
I got the impression that Vlad had had a habit of murdering and eatinf people as a vampire before he retired and his wife knocked on his door

2019-08-23 02:10:41 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Uh
Eeeeh
Nah, leaning on people to confess and submit was definitely practice there

2019-08-23 02:10:48 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Also

2019-08-23 02:11:30 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

They _clearly_ believed that God was actually on their side against the devil, that the devil was a weak bluffer and that their holy ground wiuld protect them

2019-08-23 02:13:43 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

It makes sense given the time and place
It is accurate to the source material
We have seen only one fanatical local rogue faction of the church
It was at a time when religious tensions were extremely high in a brutal and murderous country

2019-08-23 02:15:08 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Anyways
Done arguing this point

2019-08-23 02:15:39 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Anyone here ever watch Mariah the Virgin Witch

2019-08-23 02:17:03 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Anyone

2019-08-23 02:17:19 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

The degree of accuracy in that show is insane

2019-08-23 02:18:02 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Rip

2019-08-23 02:18:52 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Eh
I do not think of it as bad
It was literally to establish the themes of a flawed, sometimes stupid, yet ultimately redeemable humanity

2019-08-23 02:20:57 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Can we save the insulting energy for the commies

2019-08-23 02:21:54 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Also, I have seen a few quotes from "anarcho-capitalists: here over the last week
Holy shit, as an ancap, a lot of ancaps are insane larpers

2019-08-23 02:23:17 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I thought the whole meme about ancaps being okay with slavery was a strawman
But holy shit, some people who claim to be ancaps actually believe that shit

2019-08-23 02:24:23 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I never said anything about robots

2019-08-23 02:24:52 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I would have to dig-oh

2019-08-23 02:25:11 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

"Ancap"
I use the quotations for a reason

2019-08-23 02:25:42 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I saw a few literal screenshots of shit like that in this chat a few days ago
Would have to dig to find it

2019-08-23 02:25:52 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Yeah

2019-08-23 02:26:37 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Even though
Like
Inherent self-ownership is a fundamental concept in ancap theory that I know of

2019-08-23 02:27:15 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

2019-08-23 02:27:41 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

This is trade, not slavery

2019-08-23 02:28:24 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Perhaps define servitude as you mean it here

2019-08-23 02:28:39 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

To be certain we are referring to the same exact thing

2019-08-23 02:31:44 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Yeah, I am certain there is a point of promised service where it crosses the line of trade to what amounts to slavery
Way too tired to really consider the nuance of where that is right now, though

2019-08-23 02:34:23 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I was mostly remarking upon that the accusation that the libertarian-right is okay with slavery or some shit is apparently not such a baseless accusation as I thought
Even if inaccurate, there is reasonable basis to think that if those are the ones that they have seen

Granted, I consider myself neutral/indifferent to the liberal/conservative axis

2019-08-23 02:35:47 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Human beangs

2019-08-23 02:38:53 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Mayas, Incans, Aztecs
Idk which one

2019-08-23 02:38:59 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Probably what he said

2019-08-23 02:39:52 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

The _winning_ ones were the sacrifices?

2019-08-23 02:40:11 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I think a better analogy is drawing the short straw than winning the lottery

2019-08-23 02:41:22 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

And theoretically help stave off the apocalypse by thirsty sun god, yes

2019-08-23 02:41:35 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Even so

2019-08-23 02:41:41 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Drawback: ded

2019-08-23 02:41:46 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Pretty big drawback

2019-08-23 02:42:03 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Killed who

2019-08-23 02:42:45 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Hah
I think they are spilling plenty of blood for the sun god in the Middle East

2019-08-23 02:43:13 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Maybe not _deliberately_

2019-08-23 02:43:23 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

On behalf of the orchestrating-what

2019-08-23 02:43:44 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

How many volcanoes are there even over there

2019-08-23 02:43:55 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I omly know of like

2019-08-23 02:44:00 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

What, two?

2019-08-23 02:44:12 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Apparently

2019-08-23 02:44:34 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Volcano
What

2019-08-23 02:44:45 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

No, they worship Saturn

2019-08-23 02:45:09 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I can ramble on about the Saturn one

2019-08-23 02:45:24 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Shit is _insane_

2019-08-23 02:46:13 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

I have not studied it to confirm it yet, though I have heard that Islam is actually a Lunar cult

2019-08-23 02:47:50 UTC [Athens #the-writing-on-the-wall_memes]  

Would make sense
A _lot_ of religions to make their ascendent divine power one of the seven heavenly bodies and those who share the same one tend to have significant values overlap

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