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2018-09-08 23:40:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

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2018-09-08 23:40:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

false

2018-09-08 23:40:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

false

2018-09-08 23:40:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

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2018-09-08 23:40:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

false

2018-09-08 23:40:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I didn't say that

2018-09-08 23:41:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I said you should not invite foreigners as they usually do not identify with your nation

There will always be some of your own people who do not identify with your nation, and that's fine,but does that mean you should add to that number?

2018-09-08 23:42:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Let's say

2018-09-08 23:42:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

you have 100 million people in Bullshitland

2018-09-08 23:42:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

It didn't imply that, because you never asked me about it

2018-09-08 23:42:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Instead of asking what my position was

2018-09-08 23:42:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Well then, what about your own people who hate your country?"

2018-09-08 23:43:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

for exa,ple

2018-09-08 23:43:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

You, again

2018-09-08 23:43:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

As I have said before

2018-09-08 23:43:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Argued with yourself about something I never said

2018-09-08 23:43:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I never even addressed it

2018-09-08 23:43:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

They are bad

2018-09-08 23:43:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No, that's right they ARE bad

2018-09-08 23:43:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But they don't have to be deported or murdered

2018-09-08 23:44:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

They can stay

2018-09-08 23:44:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Those two things aren't contradictory

2018-09-08 23:44:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Have we established what my position is first before you argue with the voices in your head?

2018-09-08 23:44:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

It's not an ad-hom, because I did not use it in place of an argument

2018-09-08 23:45:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Yes, but it wasn't an argument

2018-09-08 23:45:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Yes

2018-09-08 23:45:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

If you intend to state my position so that I don't have to address a strawman again and we getit straightened out now

2018-09-08 23:46:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I wanted you to state it, but it doesn't look like you're going to

2018-09-08 23:46:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

So it's find

2018-09-08 23:46:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

*fine

2018-09-08 23:46:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I'll do it myself

2018-09-08 23:46:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Having foreigners be dissidents within your country is not the same as having your own people be dissidents

2018-09-08 23:46:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Both are bad

2018-09-08 23:47:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Alright, well then I'll answer yours

2018-09-08 23:50:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

To put it simply:

It's bad because a fractured nation will not stand, for one.

Since you're pretty materialistic, we can explain it like this:

What if you're a nation like China, and your country splits apart?

You're no longer a superpower, and are far less capable of defending your now broken up country from outside nations that seek to take it by force. @SilverLining

2018-09-08 23:51:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Nations with large regions of people that don't care about the rest of the country tend to have those regions break away

2018-09-08 23:51:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

in short

2018-09-08 23:51:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

2018-09-08 23:52:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

it started here @Snakeisninja

2018-09-08 23:52:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

this is when I entered

2018-09-08 23:52:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No

2018-09-08 23:53:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Define what you mean by triumph @SilverLining

2018-09-08 23:53:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

That's a different question than "is it good"

2018-09-08 23:54:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

If your nation starts killing its people, for example, then it's okay not to align with it, lol

2018-09-08 23:54:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Deleted User DM me the proof

2018-09-08 23:54:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

no homo

2018-09-08 23:54:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I know that sounds gay, but I need to confirm

2018-09-08 23:54:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

You're using vague terms here

2018-09-08 23:55:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Your original question

2018-09-08 23:55:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Was

2018-09-08 23:55:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Why is having dissidents and disloyal people bad?"

2018-09-08 23:55:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

That is a different question @SilverLining

2018-09-08 23:55:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

You're asking me different things

2018-09-08 23:57:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@SilverLining The nation is the highest loyalty if your nation is a nation-state

2018-09-08 23:57:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Assuming, you know

2018-09-08 23:57:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

it doesn't kill them

2018-09-08 23:58:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Even then, you can argue that the real discontent arises with the government

2018-09-08 23:58:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

not the nation

2018-09-08 23:59:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Being loyal to China isn't the same as being loyal to the Communist Party.

2018-09-08 23:59:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Mexicans are loyal to neither the United States or the United States Government

2018-09-09 00:00:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Yes, you should prefer Germans to other people.

2018-09-09 00:01:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

To ensure your nation's longevity

2018-09-09 00:01:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Please don't

2018-09-09 00:01:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  
2018-09-09 00:05:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Because the backwoods farmer would most likely defend you if your country was attacked, first of all

2018-09-09 00:05:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Wheras the urbanite would most likely defend his ethnic kin first

2018-09-09 00:06:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

You don't really have to

2018-09-09 00:06:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But you should defend your country

2018-09-09 00:07:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The state is a means to an end

2018-09-09 00:07:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

What are the invaders there for?

2018-09-09 00:07:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Just reason" is subjective

2018-09-09 00:08:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Invaders are almost there to spread their influence

2018-09-09 00:09:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

^

2018-09-09 00:09:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Communists are inherently internationalist, aside from some fringe movements like National Bolshevism

2018-09-09 00:09:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Even then

2018-09-09 00:10:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Should I defend the german homeland, the german people, even though if I did so, I'd likely be persecuted after making my effort"

This is a bit irrelevant, but to you would actually probably be spared

2018-09-09 00:10:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Hitler spared Jews and also let blacks fight in his army

2018-09-09 00:11:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

*some Jews

2018-09-09 00:11:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But it's irrelevant

2018-09-09 00:11:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Morality is subjective

2018-09-09 00:12:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@Snakeisninja For one left wingers don't believe in moral relativism

2018-09-09 00:13:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

They believe in a rebranded form of moral objectivism

2018-09-09 00:13:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

They just call it something else

2018-09-09 00:13:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

They all view the world in black and white

2018-09-09 00:13:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@Snakeisninja Marxists

2018-09-09 00:13:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Even though he's not a Marxist

2018-09-09 00:13:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Let's use that as a starting point

2018-09-09 00:14:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"The history of the world is the history of class struggle"

2018-09-09 00:14:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Black and white thinking

2018-09-09 00:14:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Even though he's not a Marxist
Let's use that as a starting point"

2018-09-09 00:14:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I am not @SilverLining

2018-09-09 00:14:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Most do

2018-09-09 00:15:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

no

2018-09-09 00:15:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Everyone post Franco flags!

2018-09-09 00:16:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@Snakeisninja I'll have to explain my thinking to you one day "in person"

2018-09-09 00:16:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

In short

2018-09-09 00:16:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I believe the best moral system

2018-09-09 00:16:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

is one derived from logic

2018-09-09 00:16:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@SilverLining Nobody is doing anything

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