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Not a single bugman said shit with me wearing this in their strong hold tonight
It's because no one recognizes it fam
Looks like a one man wolf pack shirt.
Its a band
Wide open and unguarded stand our gates,
Named of the four winds, North, South, East and West;
Portals that lead to an enchanted land
Of cities, forests, fields of living gold,
Vast prairies, lordly summits touched with snow,
Majestic rivers sweeping proudly past
The Arab's date-palm and the Norseman's pine--
A realm wherein are fruits of every zone,
Airs of all climes, for lo! throughout the year
The red rose blossoms somewhere--a rich land,
A later Eden planted in the wilds,
With not an inch of earth within its bound
But if a slave's foot press it sets him free.
Here, it is written, Toil shall have its wage,
And Honor honor, and the humblest man
Stand level with the highest in the law.
Of such a land have men in dungeons dreamed,
And with the vision brightening in their eyes
Gone smiling to the fagot and the sword.
Wide open and unguarded stand our gates,
And through them presses a wild motley throng--
Men from the Volga and the Tartar steppes,
Featureless figures of the Hoang-Ho,
Malayan, Scythian, Teuton, Kelt, and Slav,
Flying the Old World's poverty and scorn;
These bringing with them unknown gods and rites,
Those, tiger passions, here to stretch their claws.
In street and alley what strange tongues are loud,
Accents of menace alien to our air,
Voices that once the Tower of Babel knew!
O Liberty, white Goddess! Is it well
To leave the gates unguarded? On thy breast
Fold Sorrow's children, soothe
Some late-night poetry for my intellectual dudes
@Thomas Ryan even though it's not dress code what do we do if acid/shit/and mace come out ? Is a gas mask in a drop leg bag acceptable? That way I could easily assist in getting everyone else safe ?
Rome is the cause of all problems in the West as the first Universalist power
Conquered, deracinated and obliterated cultures to serve a multiethnic state where everyone was given citizenship
Rome didn't grant citizenship to everyone for the duration of it's history.
@everyone IF YOU RESIDE WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, YOU MUST SEND ME A MESSAGE
TELL ME IF YOU CAN MAKE IT TO THE EVENT IN AUSTIN ON THE 3rd/4th
OR TELL ME WHAT YOUR EXCUSE IS FOR NOT GOING
IF YOU DO NOT KNOW IF YOU CAN, FIND OUT ASAP
WE NEED ALL THESE MESSAGES RECEIVED BY MONDAY
@everyone ***SUNDAY AT 7 THERE WILL BE A GENERAL GROUP MEETING TO DISCUSS ORGANIZATIONAL PLANS AND ACTION REQUIREMENTS***
***EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGED TO COME AND LISTEN***
***THE INFORMATION CHANGES WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING***
@everyone If you CAN go to Austin, if you have the TIME, but perhaps need help with MONEY, some have OFFERED to HELP if that is NEEDED. CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY IF YOU FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
I feel like Thomas just yells at y'all all the time.
Poor leadership quality imho
Personally my feelz are hurt on a regular basis. Wut do?
I try to phrase my updates in language that you could find on a street sign, with similar punctuation as well.
I stubbed my toe, what should I do Thomas
PUT your toe in HOT water.
Live stream suicide
GENTLY REST IT ON A FLAT SURFACE
Like your gfs chest
Ah, I guess the way you communicate is better
I'll save my rocks
We need to go to the state libertarian convention with a large speaker
We can just we will rock you at them
New guy has YET TO RESPOND so we'll see if we get raided
When I first read that I thought you meant an overweight speaker
If you take Chris and me to a Libertarian convention you're assured a fight.
No no, Enoch doesn't need to come
The day you realized that philosophy based on universal principals not held universally was useless...
We need to raid libertarians, breaking up child harems is good optics
As being born and raised in Cleveland he can go fuck himself
The greatest threat to a "libertarian" society is war, although only during its infancy. All attempts right now for a libertarian society are during a state of war.
White folks are used as mascots too, Mr.blackface McGee
I got my libertarian brother red pilled on race by simply pointing out that only white people care about freedom in any statistically signifigant degree.
Has anyone actually ever found his parents? They have to be two white people.
"Both of whom are white"
Who takes this guy seriously?
@everyone Dear Patrick Front, I'll have you know, I bought a new phone case and my phone is no longer pink.
@everyone ***Read <#364943265545584650> please***
@here What do y'all think.
Leaning towards the top right.
Why does bottom right look so familiar
5 people in my house other than me and 3 picked middle right and 2 picked middle left
46 people in my apartment chose upper middle
@Thötterdämmerung Yeah I just added it so there can be an even grid
It looks like the Civil War Virginia flag
I would say, in no particular order, top left, middle left, middle middle, and middle right
what is this a cheat code
we need a poll
You're implying this is a vote.
even Hitler had referenda
I'm just hearing opinions before I make up my mind.
How widespread is the sonnenrad flag chef made?
has it gotten into other groups?
Because if not, middle left is the obvious answer
But it's very popular, and no doubt will spread
The red circle makes it much cleaner than a white one
Top center is also very distinctive
The mid left one's extra red stripe is iffy. Hard to place meaning on an extra red stripe. White field around the blue makes it less cluttered.
I can get the symbol biggest on the top left, while retaining all the symbolistic qualities, which is what's important.
White makes the red jut out and look pointy
extra red stripe = blood and courage
Ignore the gray around it
and not everything is perfectly symmetrical
but here's a gist of an idea
Is it too much white?
There's no red and it's not really based on the federal flag of the US
i think its good as an alternate
There's no need for alternate flags tho
as an amateur vexillologist who has submitted many rejected designs to my hometown
I accept this rejection
I want a flag that is strikingly similar to the current federal flag, but has our symbol on it, to be waved alongside the current federal flag
@Thötterdämmerung That's what I was thinking for patches. That design would be great for that
The blue outer rim would need to be thicker for patches, but yes that would look good, maybe some slight edits to the logo to make it embroider better.
Imagine that on a hat with a bump insert with the blue polo and khaki tactical pants.
It'd look good
Yea it would
For patches I can see it
as long as you're
thinking about it
I kind of like the more monotone blue and white for a patch but I can get down with the red border
If we ever differentiate event security/shieldwall and regular demonstrators it could be a signifier
I can see why the city keeps rejecting your designs @Thötterdämmerung
or leadership could wear red
But for flags we fly on poles, I'm probably gonna stick with the half blue/half stripes
it's mainly because I kept putting emojis and incorporating George Costanza at 99% transparency into the background of them
One of my humble submissions
i'll put it back in the resume
I think the middle center is great for large view, for small view I like middle left. Think the american star on planes. So carried flags should be middle center, while patches and labels would work well as middle left.
Not a bad suggestion, not bad at all.
I hadn't thought of it like that.
Center row and top left
Center row as in the center of the center row?
I like all the center row
Are we done with the rising sun aesthetic? Personally I think it's under utilized but I would understand if we're not gonna use it....
The issue with dead center
is that when there's no wind
I think we'll go with bottom left for everything.
it's just an american flag
That's why the top left is that much cooler.
Top left is much better than dead center
@Norman The sonfnenrad is a rune, it is not an American symbol. It has never been prominently featured in American history.
(I'm a jap infiltrator) I've been found out ⛑
I will download and add george to see how it looks
looks very militant
or middle right
What about the top left though?
^very texas esque
it's fine. the symbolism is 13 stars, 13 stripes. both are symbols of the 13 original colonies. Why not do 14 stars, for 14 words? too much?
Texas isnt the only state with a top-to-bottom blue field. @ZeDwiver
@BraeJager - TX The original flag of the Union had 13 stars/stripes. And the 14 words is a bit of a recent cultural trend to compare to a banner our people held a revolution under.
Reminds me of this
well, yes it's a recent cultural trend... but aren't we a very modern, scientific, forward-looking, avant guard sort of movement?
And yes we are, that's why slogans can change.
I don't think the 14 words is cool enough to put on our flag.
I like it, don't get me wrong, but it's not something that we're doing to explicitly define our nation around. The slogan itself, not the concept.
It's from a vidya game
What do we need to design a succession map? Then our stars can represent the new states.
not a bad idea
blue field, fasces, stripes.
We can't really say that states will secede on state lines
13 stars is the number of the first revolution, thus representing the new revolution
well, yes, but there will be distinct provinces.
if theres going to be 13 stripes, having 14 stars is a good distinction and "explicitly" adds the concept of th e 14 words
We'll end up with a wierd number like 38, and that's based on a prediction
We should figure out a roll for like passive, wealthy older guys. Guys that want to get involved but can't do the activism. We need their shekels. @Thomas Ryan thoughts?
38 with an extra line is 88
@Norman Read the organizational doc in the leadership chat, dummy, it's all in there
I have thoughts. A logistics train.
@Thomas Ryan having a different object for the 14 is a bit obscure imo
im all about explicitness
The 14 words as a cultural phenomenon isnt worth an explicit reference
Favorite of all time
I disagree, but you have shown excellent judgement on these things in the past. Besides, we can always just change it if we want to later.
Don't remind me.
just damn, son
that's a serious fucking war flag
ok, i'm done
@Thomas Ryan why is it not worth the explicit reference in your opinion
Didn't TJ same something about, "will not perish from this earth".... can't remember the quote but it would trigger shitlibs in the current year, guaranteed
just asking out of curiousity
@ZeDwiver like the old confederacy, we could have a gov flag, and a battle flag. the one i posted can be a 14-star battle flag. war boner.
Because David Lane's recent, in the grand scheme of American history, slogan doesn't define America as a nation, and as a people.
It defines my life's work.
The concept/the exact slogan
i look at the 14 words as a culmination of what the US was originally about but, again, thats just my opinion
Everything I do. The job I work, the pistol I carry, the food I cook, the money I invest, the activism... everything.
I actually spent like 30 minutes in this conversation trying to incorporate the stripes into a southern cross for maximum autism, but it looked terrible
If I changed it to "We must secure the existence of our people, and a future for our posterity" does it change the meaning? Does it change the overall concept? If you said you believed in a 15 worded slogan would it make you a civic nationalist?
I've sent it straight to hell
Do you not agree with the statement I just wrote because it isnt a commonly known slogan?
It's a total cuck statement.
also a fair point
We can add "Gas the kikes race war now" into a little floating banner
to avoid cucking
The slogan does not define the concept of tribalism without any other statement doing justice.
Well, yeah, but 14 words is well known. It's highly militant, yet the content is quite even-keeled.
I want our flag to be something that could fly over a nation and be timeless. Fascism is militant, and it's in the symbol. The 13 stars was a symbol of insurrectionists and revolutionaries, it's militant, it's in there.
it's a good flag man. we are just having an autist discussion.
The stars, the fasces, the stripes, they're all intangibly bound to American history.
I'm not upset, I'm just drawing the distinction between overall cultural concepts that define America, and colloquialisms that are great, and I agree with, but not something to wrap a nation in.
R E A L A U T I S M H O U R S
906 pm is real autism hours.
I don't think it's a mere 'colloqualism.' I think it's a guiding philosophy. It makes the nation explicitly white. The 13 colonies reference does not. They were white... but it really only implies it. The civic nationalist would tell you that dot Indians could have pulled off the Boston Tea Party.
It reminds me of that maxim "any non-profit which isn't explicitly conservative, soon becomes liberal." In this day, any nation not explicitly white, turns brown.
The 14 words did not invent the concept of tribalism, it existed before they were coined. Also, remember, there's a fasces there. The symbol of quite literal Fascism. Strength through unity, unity through blood.
There we go
something for everyone
"This is a white country" has 5 words, therefore we should have 5 stars.
That's faulty logic.
The 14 words are established, but I do agree
I'd say maybe 1/5 Americans have heard the 14 words, and that's only a recent thing
1/5 is greater than 1/10.
And 1/10 can start a mass movement.
We were far less than 1/10 6 months ago
But I also see your point
By putting the 14 words, as a concept, on the flag that represents the American Identity, you are kind of lifting David Lane up above George Washington, or any other founding figure this nation has known.
That's a better argument.
Your flags are all g2g, Thomas. Y'all jokers have a good night. I gotta get some sleep.
So you're leaning on top left Thomas?
It'd fall over if I leaned any harder.
You know when you open up a new tab because you had an idea of something to do... but once you open it you forget what that idea was?