doxxing is never ok

So is it safe to say that the Jim stream (this one at least) is everything we expected it to be

@Deleted User - Was the moralizing doxes statement by vee more a statement about how he doesn't want to try to validate doxing and just doesn't like doxing?

I dont think doxxing is always bad, sometimes you have to give someone a taste of their own medicine

@Deleted User - Maybe if they are a mobster and the cops won't take care of them, but otherwise, way too easy to open a can of worms that is bad for everyone.

I think doxxing is bad, but I have a relatively lenient definition of doxing

you usually aren't doxing the guy who doxed someone, you are doxing somene he is friendly with

Sonic says "doxing is for faggots"

If swatting and other dangerous things weren't part of doxing effects, I think maybe people wouldn't be so worried about it.

and besides, I dont think that is evidence of Vee actually being part of any doxx

These days though stupid nonsense causes a lot of problems.

so for metokur to sperg on vee's stream as if he was part of the problem is absurd

That woman that was supposed to become the new CEO of that gymnastics thing got kicked because she talked about how she is boycotting nike by markering out the nike logo on her shoes.

So it's just dumb nonsense all around

Vee was in a leak where gay ops were happening but never said anything that would prove him being part of the doxing

Vee even explained why he was there didnt he

Something Kraut said

In his stream, yea

this is just Kraut doing retarded shit and Vee walking by

^ this is exactly like the (((Sargon knew))) meme

Yup

It's back

I dont even know what the hell a skeptic is

he promised destroying Sargon

where is my fucking destruction!

skeptic - a person inclined to question or doubt all accepted opinions

Anyone that fits that definition.

like I know people use it to call people like sargon skeptics, but I dont actually know what its meant to mean and I have been watching sargon for a while

skeptics- atheists, liberals and other homosexuals

ah okay

It's a semi-dead term that now means whatever the fuck people want it to mean

thats what it looks like to me

Basically someone that is open minded and is interested in truth, not unchanging ideological positions.

basically friends of Sargon

Most people that you would associate with the label have basically moved on or were caught in the Kraut meltdown

@ConceptHut yea that's the dictionary definition

That's where I copied it from. lol

but in the world of internet homosexuals it means something else

I dont even get why Metokur is going after Sargon, I really hate going for petty insults because I kind of like Metokurs video, but I cant help but think Metokur is envious of Sargon actually going places

Kraut and friends are ideolouges, not skeptics.

Nihlist trolls like to take down anyone that is trying to be constructive.

Sargon is basically his trophy wife.

"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee @ConceptHut direct quote

@Deleted User Naw, Jim sees Sargon as future content, it's the same as AltHype who got caught saying he only talks about Sargon because it gets him clicks

@Deleted User - Oh shit. I should do a direct video clip of that soon.

@Binary_Chant - Sargon pokes Metokur to rile him up.

lmfao Metokur is literally talking about numbers

I mean, it is hilarious to watch metokur spin out.

and now he is making fun of sargons subscriber count

okay I have actually lost respect for metokur I had left

Trolling the master troll is just hilarious

What's the run down

Wow, someone pull up that Jim81Jim clip

@Binary_Chant - What clip is that?

The one where he makes fun of people who gloat about their subscriber count

Says something along the lines of their ruining the internet

he said he does it because it makes Sargon angry

I want someone to compile a series of Jim saying something bad about a thing and then a clip of jim doing it directly after that.

not sure about that but still

what jim is doing right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c26cBFZanA

lol

Thanks for the link

Also I love how he seems to think he'll be able to pull Sargon into the mud, honestly Jim is just entertainment for Sargon at this point

^

well

it's over for today

we confirmed Kraut does gay shit

and works with people from IBS

I don't think kraut knows how to not do dumb stuff. :/

In other news, the sunset today

and Vee may have maybe once by mistake we think who know maybe known

I mean, he has a lot of potential if he could juremove the nonsense.

so Kraut is gay and Vee exists

that was not worth it

Welp gotta wait till tomorrow for the "bombshell"

So I ignored the stream.

Did Metokur say anything interesting at all this time?

Cuz Jim's gotta make that money honey

tomorow should be sherratt

that should be actually interesting

because I have no idea who that is

It's Spino.

so I might learn something new

Shitrat is Spinosaurskin.

Everyone here, thoughts on the quote Paul Atreides posted?

```"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee ```

I don't care?

It's fucking great that Jim of all people are trying to moralfag about doxing?

he is showing him as a hypocrite

All of this is fucking gay

@Veritas Prognostician - Curious if he is moralfaging about the doxing aspect or just that the kraut and friends is running dumb ops still.

While I don't like doxing I can kind of get it in the case of people who have done it repeatedly and are basically know for it

Why do people dox each other over meaningless internet drama

autism

@Nadvort - Power to control the environment.

Because they haven't matured emotionally past the age of 15.

It seems the majority of Jims current audience are just faggots from Drama Alert

so that’d be why

This is fucking High School teenage he-said she-said bullshit.

I mean I enjoy the drama

But keep it on the internet

Ya gays

Did Metokur actually come out and say that Vee actually did anything?

He played an audio clip of vee talking about stuff

He said it's weird that he was in that call

What did Vee saybin said call anyway

People should stop talking to Kraut

```"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee ```

That audio.

It never results in anything good

Oh that

I don't see anything particularly nefarious with that statement.

Vee's right. Everybody is saying doxing is wrong, but they're perfectly okay when it's their favorite people doing it.

I can't tell if he is annoyed that people try to legitimize doxing or if he is saying doxing is alright and to rock out with it.

If you have evidence someone is a doxer than sure dox him

Just don't do it with people you don't like

I think he's say it should be used against people who constantly dox others

Because it's probably the only thing that will make them stop

I actually think that's a fair point.

if only he actually believed that

If faggots are going to dox, then they should be prepared to doxxed themselves.

It won't but at least you fuck with them

Then again he did say he was wasted for at least one of those convos so

Or you just dont dox people

Like Vee says in public

for any reason

Internet was a mistake

What was the doxing hashtag about?

It brings more harm than good

I don't remember it.

Probably something like #dont dox you retards

No, I'm sorry, but we live in an age where butthurt 12 year olds will call in a fucking swat team if you beat them in Call of Duty. If someone doesn't want their information on the internet, you shouldn't sit there and publish it.

As it stands, these people sit there and scrub the fucking internet and run ops to sit there and dox people with no reprecussion.

@Veritas Prognostician - Should be illegal. There needs to be some legislation to secure people's privacy and security in that manner.

Like the government gives a shit.

Although if Vee is willing to explain what he was saying mayeb he was just going after a double standard he sees regarding doxxing and it just came out wierd

I mean, why is it that I can go on a website, pay 30 bucks, and find out all your family, and every place you've ever lived as well as your family?

so you do the thing you condemn in public, privately

That would mean government would have to break more laws than they already do

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

∆

Move too fast, break everything.

Now that's not true.

Eh, I'll give Vee a chance to respond

Unless you mean the time that we were dying to fucking cholera and small pox was seriously better than now.

Before I form my final opinion

I mean, do you not think there is a difference between being for doxxing in general, versus being for doxxing against doxxers?

I dont think its hypocrisy at all

It's self defense.

@Veritas Prognostician shut up *L I B T A T D*

lol

@Binary_Chant - He did already. Metokur didn't really share anything new today that wasn't in Andy's stream. He clipped it up and added a few little side nuggets.

>Condemns the doxxing of everyone
>"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee

You are lucky I'm not my computer or I would destroy you with facts about why computers are bad

you can moralise about anything but if you have a principle like "u should never kill cos thats always bad", while a savage tribe will wipe you out, its not hypocritical to realize an exception needs to be made

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372508286529961996/501402840749834246/image0.jpg

@Deleted User - Yea, but that can be read two seperate ways. That's why I want to know what the hashtag was about. It would add the nessesary context.

The mental gymnastics to defend doxxing

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of that is just because Vee's English is broken

im not defending doxxing or his opinion necessarily

@ConceptHut really? Huh my understanding of the timeline is fuckes then

Like, I think "being" in the first sentence is supposed to be "bring"

I can understand his views though beyond "HURRR HE IS CONTRADICTING HIMSELF"

@Binary_Chant - I can't find the stream he did... Trying to find the link for ya.

Like I said, it is possible he's merely commenting on a double standard he sees

I can't believe that we got to the point where Andy Warski is better source than metokur<:thronk:441701565607444482>

It's definitely possible. That quote without context can mean a lot of different things, just because Vee can't English.

@Binary_Chant - Found it. Forgot he had two seperate channels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWlLuBNz2mA

That's to be expected from a gypsy

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@ConceptHut thanks mate, I'll dig through this to see what he said

>in public "I dont like punching people, its bad all the time"
>in private ""You know what we need to being back punching hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef punching people left and right but you are not allowed to punch them."

Also this is the stream where he mentioned he was wasted drunk for at least one of those convos so...

Take that as you will

oh wait, thats not a hypocritical statement at all

@Deleted User - Language is hard. Even if native to it. :/

@Binary_Chant I'm gonna go to bed, be sure to post what you find.

Lol

Oh same, I'll do it later unless someone beats me to it

punching is different than doxxing

you have other ways of hitting a doxxer other than doxing them

i never said they were the same?

what an analogy?

>in public "I dont like raping people, its bad all the time"
>in private ""You know what we need to being back raping hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef raping people left and right but you are not allowed to rape them."

^^^

Rape makes everything more funny. /s

1:22 in the Stream you just posted for the question

especially if you do it someone's SO <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

When the stream is over I can grab a timecoded link.

i mean, if its reached the point where its okay for one group to rape and the other not to rape, do you not think that this isnt a legitimate point?

and again, Im not condoning or saying I would do the same

Im saying they have made the bed and they should lie in it

the mental gymnastics

which is basically his point

you keep saying mental gymnastics, but have not provided a single argument

Muh argument

so you are admitting to me this is all an emotional plea

nice

I have explained it is just hypocritical

https://youtu.be/kMpp7d9x1Gg?t=4872

no you havent]

Here we go folks. This is a tiny before vee comes in. So we can see some context.

he very clearly condems all doxxing in public

>arguing with dan
lel

if I say one statement like "all X is bad", but in the future find out one justification where X is good, is it then hypocrtical for me to change my mind, and second of all, this is a small clip where he is spitballing something in a private chat, not actually condoning any doxxing that has happened

I mean, its very telling he only leaked one minute of that chat

@Deleted User - The unclipped version is in andy's long stream.

totally not trying to frame the convo or anything

oh my bad, metokur went all over the place

Raping rapists is actually good punishment for rape - change my mind<:thisisfine:378719407981199363>

@Deleted User - No worries. I'm just engrossed in this drama because it's super hilarious to me

what about bitches who lie about rape? @Nadvort

Rape them so that they know what actual victims feel like

wait, if the stream where Vee said that was public, then how is Vee saying one thing in public and another in private?

Also rape murderers

Here's the giant 6 hour stream with the entire audio recording in it from andy: https://youtu.be/Hxmoqy7Q3PQ

And pedos

Metokurs evidence is even more flimsy

Make rape into the new capital punishment

Here is where Vee comes in in that giant Andy Warski stream: https://youtu.be/Hxmoqy7Q3PQ?t=16994https://youtu.be/Hxmoqy7Q3PQ?t=16980

oh the stream was a leak of the conversation, so I guess Vee saying something in private, still though not hypocrisy on Vee

Vee lied

He said he did not talk to Kraut in his stream yesterday

@Deleted User - About what? I'm listening again, so what am I listening for?

Where did he say he didn't talk to kraut?

this is him talking to Kraut

For Vee speaking

I will grab the link

Thanks

It's shady as fuck but it's not really evidence of anything

1 hour and 32

"i distanced myself from kraut"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWlLuBNz2mA

Thanks

@Deleted User - That was about a specific time, not in relation to the andy stream.

"He said he did not talk to Kraut in his stream yesterday" is different to "i distanced myself from kraut"

Timelines with all this is hard to track.

he said i distanced myself from kraut before bloodsports started

and he knew Short fat Otaku gave him the information

I didn't hear the bloodsports part.

wait I dont get where the lie is?

I listened to the timecode you talked about.

"other then that I dont hang out with him" doesnt mean he never talked to him

I can talk to people I never usually hang out with

or even severely dislike and distance myself from

@Deleted User - https://youtu.be/BWlLuBNz2mA?t=5500

Listen from that point.

"It's ages, months before blood sports"

So I heard bloodsports that time.

So they are talking about a different time all together it seems.

Not sure when the kraut tonka audio was recorded that andy played.