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2018-10-22 03:28:49 UTC

doxxing is never ok

2018-10-22 03:28:50 UTC

So is it safe to say that the Jim stream (this one at least) is everything we expected it to be

2018-10-22 03:28:53 UTC

@Deleted User - Was the moralizing doxes statement by vee more a statement about how he doesn't want to try to validate doxing and just doesn't like doxing?

2018-10-22 03:29:28 UTC

I dont think doxxing is always bad, sometimes you have to give someone a taste of their own medicine

2018-10-22 03:30:06 UTC

@Deleted User - Maybe if they are a mobster and the cops won't take care of them, but otherwise, way too easy to open a can of worms that is bad for everyone.

2018-10-22 03:30:10 UTC

I think doxxing is bad, but I have a relatively lenient definition of doxing

2018-10-22 03:30:25 UTC

you usually aren't doxing the guy who doxed someone, you are doxing somene he is friendly with

2018-10-22 03:30:58 UTC

Sonic says "doxing is for faggots"

2018-10-22 03:31:07 UTC

If swatting and other dangerous things weren't part of doxing effects, I think maybe people wouldn't be so worried about it.

2018-10-22 03:31:09 UTC

and besides, I dont think that is evidence of Vee actually being part of any doxx

2018-10-22 03:31:18 UTC

These days though stupid nonsense causes a lot of problems.

2018-10-22 03:31:32 UTC

so for metokur to sperg on vee's stream as if he was part of the problem is absurd

2018-10-22 03:31:56 UTC

That woman that was supposed to become the new CEO of that gymnastics thing got kicked because she talked about how she is boycotting nike by markering out the nike logo on her shoes.

2018-10-22 03:32:08 UTC

So it's just dumb nonsense all around

2018-10-22 03:32:19 UTC

Vee was in a leak where gay ops were happening but never said anything that would prove him being part of the doxing

2018-10-22 03:32:42 UTC

Vee even explained why he was there didnt he

2018-10-22 03:32:48 UTC

Something Kraut said

2018-10-22 03:32:54 UTC

In his stream, yea

2018-10-22 03:33:19 UTC

this is just Kraut doing retarded shit and Vee walking by

2018-10-22 03:33:43 UTC

^ this is exactly like the (((Sargon knew))) meme

2018-10-22 03:33:55 UTC


2018-10-22 03:34:00 UTC

It's back

2018-10-22 03:34:20 UTC

I dont even know what the hell a skeptic is

2018-10-22 03:34:26 UTC

he promised destroying Sargon

2018-10-22 03:34:37 UTC

where is my fucking destruction!

2018-10-22 03:34:50 UTC

skeptic - a person inclined to question or doubt all accepted opinions

Anyone that fits that definition.

2018-10-22 03:34:51 UTC

like I know people use it to call people like sargon skeptics, but I dont actually know what its meant to mean and I have been watching sargon for a while

2018-10-22 03:35:14 UTC

skeptics- atheists, liberals and other homosexuals

2018-10-22 03:35:20 UTC

ah okay

2018-10-22 03:35:23 UTC

It's a semi-dead term that now means whatever the fuck people want it to mean

2018-10-22 03:35:31 UTC

thats what it looks like to me

2018-10-22 03:35:32 UTC

Basically someone that is open minded and is interested in truth, not unchanging ideological positions.

2018-10-22 03:35:42 UTC

basically friends of Sargon

2018-10-22 03:36:07 UTC

Most people that you would associate with the label have basically moved on or were caught in the Kraut meltdown

2018-10-22 03:36:15 UTC

@ConceptHut yea that's the dictionary definition

2018-10-22 03:36:24 UTC

That's where I copied it from. lol

2018-10-22 03:36:33 UTC

but in the world of internet homosexuals it means something else

2018-10-22 03:36:41 UTC

I dont even get why Metokur is going after Sargon, I really hate going for petty insults because I kind of like Metokurs video, but I cant help but think Metokur is envious of Sargon actually going places

2018-10-22 03:36:48 UTC

Kraut and friends are ideolouges, not skeptics.

2018-10-22 03:37:18 UTC

Nihlist trolls like to take down anyone that is trying to be constructive.

2018-10-22 03:37:32 UTC

Sargon is basically his trophy wife.

2018-10-22 03:37:32 UTC

"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee @ConceptHut direct quote

2018-10-22 03:37:50 UTC

@Deleted User Naw, Jim sees Sargon as future content, it's the same as AltHype who got caught saying he only talks about Sargon because it gets him clicks

2018-10-22 03:38:09 UTC

@Deleted User - Oh shit. I should do a direct video clip of that soon.

2018-10-22 03:38:46 UTC

@Binary_Chant - Sargon pokes Metokur to rile him up.

2018-10-22 03:39:08 UTC

lmfao Metokur is literally talking about numbers

2018-10-22 03:39:14 UTC

I mean, it is hilarious to watch metokur spin out.

2018-10-22 03:39:18 UTC

and now he is making fun of sargons subscriber count

2018-10-22 03:39:21 UTC

okay I have actually lost respect for metokur I had left

2018-10-22 03:39:22 UTC

Trolling the master troll is just hilarious

2018-10-22 03:39:30 UTC

What's the run down

2018-10-22 03:39:36 UTC

Wow, someone pull up that Jim81Jim clip

2018-10-22 03:39:48 UTC

@Binary_Chant - What clip is that?

2018-10-22 03:40:08 UTC

The one where he makes fun of people who gloat about their subscriber count

2018-10-22 03:40:53 UTC

Says something along the lines of their ruining the internet

2018-10-22 03:41:20 UTC

he said he does it because it makes Sargon angry

2018-10-22 03:41:27 UTC

I want someone to compile a series of Jim saying something bad about a thing and then a clip of jim doing it directly after that.

2018-10-22 03:41:33 UTC

not sure about that but still

2018-10-22 03:41:36 UTC

what jim is doing right now

2018-10-22 03:41:52 UTC


2018-10-22 03:41:55 UTC

Thanks for the link

2018-10-22 03:42:25 UTC

Also I love how he seems to think he'll be able to pull Sargon into the mud, honestly Jim is just entertainment for Sargon at this point

2018-10-22 03:42:38 UTC


2018-10-22 03:43:05 UTC


2018-10-22 03:43:12 UTC

it's over for today

2018-10-22 03:43:41 UTC

we confirmed Kraut does gay shit

2018-10-22 03:43:53 UTC

and works with people from IBS

2018-10-22 03:44:04 UTC

I don't think kraut knows how to not do dumb stuff. :/

2018-10-22 03:44:21 UTC

In other news, the sunset today

2018-10-22 03:44:25 UTC

and Vee may have maybe once by mistake we think who know maybe known

2018-10-22 03:44:26 UTC

I mean, he has a lot of potential if he could juremove the nonsense.

2018-10-22 03:44:52 UTC

so Kraut is gay and Vee exists

2018-10-22 03:45:01 UTC

that was not worth it

2018-10-22 03:45:06 UTC

Welp gotta wait till tomorrow for the "bombshell"

2018-10-22 03:45:07 UTC

So I ignored the stream.

2018-10-22 03:45:18 UTC

Did Metokur say anything interesting at all this time?

2018-10-22 03:45:19 UTC

Cuz Jim's gotta make that money honey

2018-10-22 03:45:35 UTC

tomorow should be sherratt

2018-10-22 03:45:45 UTC

that should be actually interesting

2018-10-22 03:45:54 UTC

because I have no idea who that is

2018-10-22 03:46:02 UTC

It's Spino.

2018-10-22 03:46:08 UTC

so I might learn something new

2018-10-22 03:46:22 UTC

Shitrat is Spinosaurskin.

2018-10-22 03:47:13 UTC

Everyone here, thoughts on the quote Paul Atreides posted?

```"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee ```

2018-10-22 03:48:09 UTC

I don't care?

2018-10-22 03:48:26 UTC

It's fucking great that Jim of all people are trying to moralfag about doxing?

2018-10-22 03:48:54 UTC

he is showing him as a hypocrite

2018-10-22 03:48:55 UTC

All of this is fucking gay

2018-10-22 03:49:12 UTC

@Veritas Prognostician - Curious if he is moralfaging about the doxing aspect or just that the kraut and friends is running dumb ops still.

2018-10-22 03:49:12 UTC

While I don't like doxing I can kind of get it in the case of people who have done it repeatedly and are basically know for it

2018-10-22 03:49:25 UTC

Why do people dox each other over meaningless internet drama

2018-10-22 03:49:34 UTC


2018-10-22 03:49:48 UTC

@Nadvort - Power to control the environment.

2018-10-22 03:49:49 UTC

Because they haven't matured emotionally past the age of 15.

2018-10-22 03:50:04 UTC

It seems the majority of Jims current audience are just faggots from Drama Alert

2018-10-22 03:50:08 UTC

so that’d be why

2018-10-22 03:50:08 UTC

This is fucking High School teenage he-said she-said bullshit.

2018-10-22 03:50:32 UTC

I mean I enjoy the drama

2018-10-22 03:50:49 UTC

But keep it on the internet

2018-10-22 03:50:51 UTC

Ya gays

2018-10-22 03:50:55 UTC

Did Metokur actually come out and say that Vee actually did anything?

2018-10-22 03:51:13 UTC

He played an audio clip of vee talking about stuff

2018-10-22 03:51:17 UTC

He said it's weird that he was in that call

2018-10-22 03:51:30 UTC

What did Vee saybin said call anyway

2018-10-22 03:51:49 UTC

People should stop talking to Kraut

2018-10-22 03:51:53 UTC

```"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee ```

2018-10-22 03:51:58 UTC

That audio.

2018-10-22 03:52:00 UTC

It never results in anything good

2018-10-22 03:52:12 UTC

Oh that

2018-10-22 03:52:26 UTC

I don't see anything particularly nefarious with that statement.

2018-10-22 03:53:02 UTC

Vee's right. Everybody is saying doxing is wrong, but they're perfectly okay when it's their favorite people doing it.

2018-10-22 03:53:07 UTC

I can't tell if he is annoyed that people try to legitimize doxing or if he is saying doxing is alright and to rock out with it.

2018-10-22 03:53:16 UTC

If you have evidence someone is a doxer than sure dox him

2018-10-22 03:53:36 UTC

Just don't do it with people you don't like

2018-10-22 03:53:40 UTC

I think he's say it should be used against people who constantly dox others

2018-10-22 03:53:59 UTC

Because it's probably the only thing that will make them stop

2018-10-22 03:54:06 UTC

I actually think that's a fair point.

2018-10-22 03:54:15 UTC

if only he actually believed that

2018-10-22 03:54:25 UTC

If faggots are going to dox, then they should be prepared to doxxed themselves.

2018-10-22 03:54:26 UTC

It won't but at least you fuck with them

2018-10-22 03:54:50 UTC

Then again he did say he was wasted for at least one of those convos so

2018-10-22 03:54:51 UTC

Or you just dont dox people

2018-10-22 03:54:56 UTC

Like Vee says in public

2018-10-22 03:55:07 UTC

for any reason

2018-10-22 03:55:21 UTC

Internet was a mistake

2018-10-22 03:55:30 UTC

What was the doxing hashtag about?

2018-10-22 03:55:32 UTC

It brings more harm than good

2018-10-22 03:55:34 UTC

I don't remember it.

2018-10-22 03:55:59 UTC

Probably something like #dont dox you retards

2018-10-22 03:56:13 UTC

No, I'm sorry, but we live in an age where butthurt 12 year olds will call in a fucking swat team if you beat them in Call of Duty. If someone doesn't want their information on the internet, you shouldn't sit there and publish it.

2018-10-22 03:56:47 UTC

As it stands, these people sit there and scrub the fucking internet and run ops to sit there and dox people with no reprecussion.

2018-10-22 03:56:53 UTC

@Veritas Prognostician - Should be illegal. There needs to be some legislation to secure people's privacy and security in that manner.

2018-10-22 03:57:03 UTC

Like the government gives a shit.

2018-10-22 03:57:08 UTC

Although if Vee is willing to explain what he was saying mayeb he was just going after a double standard he sees regarding doxxing and it just came out wierd

2018-10-22 03:57:15 UTC

I mean, why is it that I can go on a website, pay 30 bucks, and find out all your family, and every place you've ever lived as well as your family?

2018-10-22 03:57:17 UTC

so you do the thing you condemn in public, privately

2018-10-22 03:57:38 UTC

That would mean government would have to break more laws than they already do

2018-10-22 03:57:47 UTC

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

2018-10-22 03:58:00 UTC


2018-10-22 03:58:01 UTC

Move too fast, break everything.

2018-10-22 03:58:08 UTC

Now that's not true.

2018-10-22 03:58:24 UTC

Eh, I'll give Vee a chance to respond

2018-10-22 03:58:44 UTC

Unless you mean the time that we were dying to fucking cholera and small pox was seriously better than now.

2018-10-22 03:58:47 UTC

Before I form my final opinion

2018-10-22 03:58:59 UTC

I mean, do you not think there is a difference between being for doxxing in general, versus being for doxxing against doxxers?

2018-10-22 03:59:05 UTC

I dont think its hypocrisy at all

2018-10-22 03:59:12 UTC

It's self defense.

2018-10-22 03:59:18 UTC

@Veritas Prognostician shut up *L I B T A T D*

2018-10-22 03:59:25 UTC


2018-10-22 03:59:50 UTC

@Binary_Chant - He did already. Metokur didn't really share anything new today that wasn't in Andy's stream. He clipped it up and added a few little side nuggets.

2018-10-22 04:00:13 UTC

>Condemns the doxxing of everyone
>"You know what we need to being back doxxing hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef doxxing people left and right but you are not allowed to dox them." -Vee

2018-10-22 04:00:15 UTC

You are lucky I'm not my computer or I would destroy you with facts about why computers are bad

2018-10-22 04:00:17 UTC

you can moralise about anything but if you have a principle like "u should never kill cos thats always bad", while a savage tribe will wipe you out, its not hypocritical to realize an exception needs to be made

2018-10-22 04:00:41 UTC

@Deleted User - Yea, but that can be read two seperate ways. That's why I want to know what the hashtag was about. It would add the nessesary context.

2018-10-22 04:01:04 UTC

The mental gymnastics to defend doxxing

2018-10-22 04:01:10 UTC

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of that is just because Vee's English is broken

2018-10-22 04:01:25 UTC

im not defending doxxing or his opinion necessarily

2018-10-22 04:01:25 UTC

@ConceptHut really? Huh my understanding of the timeline is fuckes then

2018-10-22 04:01:31 UTC

Like, I think "being" in the first sentence is supposed to be "bring"

2018-10-22 04:01:39 UTC

I can understand his views though beyond "HURRR HE IS CONTRADICTING HIMSELF"

2018-10-22 04:01:44 UTC

@Binary_Chant - I can't find the stream he did... Trying to find the link for ya.

2018-10-22 04:02:01 UTC

Like I said, it is possible he's merely commenting on a double standard he sees

2018-10-22 04:02:02 UTC

I can't believe that we got to the point where Andy Warski is better source than metokur<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-10-22 04:02:33 UTC

It's definitely possible. That quote without context can mean a lot of different things, just because Vee can't English.

2018-10-22 04:02:55 UTC

@Binary_Chant - Found it. Forgot he had two seperate channels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWlLuBNz2mA

2018-10-22 04:02:56 UTC

That's to be expected from a gypsy

2018-10-22 04:03:07 UTC


2018-10-22 04:03:38 UTC

@ConceptHut thanks mate, I'll dig through this to see what he said

2018-10-22 04:03:39 UTC

>in public "I dont like punching people, its bad all the time"
>in private ""You know what we need to being back punching hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef punching people left and right but you are not allowed to punch them."

2018-10-22 04:04:06 UTC

Also this is the stream where he mentioned he was wasted drunk for at least one of those convos so...

2018-10-22 04:04:19 UTC

Take that as you will

2018-10-22 04:04:24 UTC

oh wait, thats not a hypocritical statement at all

2018-10-22 04:04:51 UTC

@Deleted User - Language is hard. Even if native to it. :/

2018-10-22 04:04:57 UTC

@Binary_Chant I'm gonna go to bed, be sure to post what you find.

2018-10-22 04:05:18 UTC


2018-10-22 04:05:19 UTC

Oh same, I'll do it later unless someone beats me to it

2018-10-22 04:05:32 UTC

punching is different than doxxing

2018-10-22 04:05:47 UTC

you have other ways of hitting a doxxer other than doxing them

2018-10-22 04:06:00 UTC

i never said they were the same?

2018-10-22 04:06:05 UTC

what an analogy?

2018-10-22 04:06:18 UTC

>in public "I dont like raping people, its bad all the time"
>in private ""You know what we need to being back raping hashtag, Like Im sick and tired of every-time every-time someone does it its like oh lets moralize it. Meanwhile they got people like Zoom and Zef raping people left and right but you are not allowed to rape them."

2018-10-22 04:06:25 UTC


2018-10-22 04:07:00 UTC

Rape makes everything more funny. /s

2018-10-22 04:07:19 UTC

1:22 in the Stream you just posted for the question

2018-10-22 04:07:25 UTC

especially if you do it someone's SO <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-10-22 04:07:49 UTC

When the stream is over I can grab a timecoded link.

2018-10-22 04:07:58 UTC

i mean, if its reached the point where its okay for one group to rape and the other not to rape, do you not think that this isnt a legitimate point?

2018-10-22 04:08:11 UTC

and again, Im not condoning or saying I would do the same

2018-10-22 04:08:20 UTC

Im saying they have made the bed and they should lie in it

2018-10-22 04:08:31 UTC

the mental gymnastics

2018-10-22 04:08:31 UTC

which is basically his point

2018-10-22 04:08:44 UTC

you keep saying mental gymnastics, but have not provided a single argument

2018-10-22 04:08:52 UTC

Muh argument

2018-10-22 04:09:10 UTC

so you are admitting to me this is all an emotional plea

2018-10-22 04:09:11 UTC


2018-10-22 04:09:12 UTC

I have explained it is just hypocritical

2018-10-22 04:09:19 UTC

no you havent]

2018-10-22 04:09:29 UTC

Here we go folks. This is a tiny before vee comes in. So we can see some context.

2018-10-22 04:09:31 UTC

he very clearly condems all doxxing in public

2018-10-22 04:09:48 UTC

>arguing with dan

2018-10-22 04:10:50 UTC

if I say one statement like "all X is bad", but in the future find out one justification where X is good, is it then hypocrtical for me to change my mind, and second of all, this is a small clip where he is spitballing something in a private chat, not actually condoning any doxxing that has happened

2018-10-22 04:11:10 UTC

I mean, its very telling he only leaked one minute of that chat

2018-10-22 04:11:28 UTC

@Deleted User - The unclipped version is in andy's long stream.

2018-10-22 04:11:30 UTC

totally not trying to frame the convo or anything

2018-10-22 04:12:07 UTC

oh my bad, metokur went all over the place

2018-10-22 04:12:11 UTC

Raping rapists is actually good punishment for rape - change my mind<:thisisfine:378719407981199363>

2018-10-22 04:12:42 UTC

@Deleted User - No worries. I'm just engrossed in this drama because it's super hilarious to me

2018-10-22 04:12:45 UTC

what about bitches who lie about rape? @Nadvort

2018-10-22 04:13:22 UTC

Rape them so that they know what actual victims feel like

2018-10-22 04:13:35 UTC

wait, if the stream where Vee said that was public, then how is Vee saying one thing in public and another in private?

2018-10-22 04:13:42 UTC

Also rape murderers

2018-10-22 04:13:45 UTC

Here's the giant 6 hour stream with the entire audio recording in it from andy: https://youtu.be/Hxmoqy7Q3PQ

2018-10-22 04:13:46 UTC

And pedos

2018-10-22 04:13:54 UTC

Metokurs evidence is even more flimsy

2018-10-22 04:14:01 UTC

Make rape into the new capital punishment

2018-10-22 04:16:51 UTC

Here is where Vee comes in in that giant Andy Warski stream: https://youtu.be/Hxmoqy7Q3PQ?t=16994https://youtu.be/Hxmoqy7Q3PQ?t=16980

2018-10-22 04:18:02 UTC

oh the stream was a leak of the conversation, so I guess Vee saying something in private, still though not hypocrisy on Vee

2018-10-22 04:18:23 UTC

Vee lied

2018-10-22 04:18:38 UTC

He said he did not talk to Kraut in his stream yesterday

2018-10-22 04:18:42 UTC

@Deleted User - About what? I'm listening again, so what am I listening for?

2018-10-22 04:18:54 UTC

Where did he say he didn't talk to kraut?

2018-10-22 04:18:56 UTC

this is him talking to Kraut

2018-10-22 04:18:57 UTC

For Vee speaking

2018-10-22 04:19:02 UTC

I will grab the link

2018-10-22 04:19:06 UTC


2018-10-22 04:19:33 UTC

It's shady as fuck but it's not really evidence of anything

2018-10-22 04:20:20 UTC

1 hour and 32

2018-10-22 04:20:32 UTC

"i distanced myself from kraut"

2018-10-22 04:20:46 UTC


2018-10-22 04:21:50 UTC

@Deleted User - That was about a specific time, not in relation to the andy stream.

2018-10-22 04:21:54 UTC

"He said he did not talk to Kraut in his stream yesterday" is different to "i distanced myself from kraut"

2018-10-22 04:22:16 UTC

Timelines with all this is hard to track.

2018-10-22 04:22:41 UTC

he said i distanced myself from kraut before bloodsports started

2018-10-22 04:22:55 UTC

and he knew Short fat Otaku gave him the information

2018-10-22 04:23:01 UTC

I didn't hear the bloodsports part.

2018-10-22 04:23:06 UTC

wait I dont get where the lie is?

2018-10-22 04:23:24 UTC

I listened to the timecode you talked about.

2018-10-22 04:24:02 UTC

"other then that I dont hang out with him" doesnt mean he never talked to him

2018-10-22 04:24:15 UTC

I can talk to people I never usually hang out with

2018-10-22 04:24:28 UTC

or even severely dislike and distance myself from

2018-10-22 04:24:52 UTC

Listen from that point.

2018-10-22 04:25:26 UTC

"It's ages, months before blood sports"

2018-10-22 04:25:39 UTC

So I heard bloodsports that time.

2018-10-22 04:25:59 UTC

So they are talking about a different time all together it seems.

2018-10-22 04:26:33 UTC

Not sure when the kraut tonka audio was recorded that andy played.

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