#comp-sci (Discord ID: 423219052849397773) in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta), page 29

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2018-09-24 18:58:06 UTC

I do think that the Open Source community did undermine the Free Software movement.

2018-09-24 18:59:07 UTC


2018-09-24 18:59:33 UTC

I'm not even a communist. I'm staunchly in favor of capitalism.

2018-09-24 19:00:40 UTC

I actually think that catering to the premise of Intellectual Property, which is what the Open Source movement did, is very anti-capitalist.

2018-09-24 19:01:26 UTC

Because Software Companies base their business model on the premise that you could treat Software as a physical good, which you can't.

2018-09-24 19:02:15 UTC

These companies base their model on selling products that can effectively be infinitely reproduced by anybody. Which is insane.

2018-09-24 19:02:26 UTC

That's an objectively terrible business model.

2018-09-24 19:03:24 UTC

So, why are we using legislation and licensing to facilitate what is objectively a terrible business model?

2018-09-24 19:05:34 UTC

I agree Stallman and the Free software is full of dumb communist hippies that think that the Free Software movement will usher in a communist utopia where hobbyists just make whatever software they want, and evil corporations won't make shitty proprietary software.

2018-09-24 19:07:58 UTC

But that doesn't mean I don't agree with the Free Software philosophy coming from capitalist principles. I think that giving corporations the sole proprietorship to modify and distribute software stifles what should by all means should be freely and openly distributed.

2018-09-24 20:17:44 UTC

Here's linus talking about why he underminded the FSF

2018-09-24 20:20:34 UTC

notes: Open Source does not mean corporations have ' proprietorship to modify and distribute software' --i don't know where you heard that
Free Software movement does not give you more access to distribute code overall. You have to familiarize yourself with all the available licensing schemes. Many things called Free Software as in freedom, are actually less permissive. It's not free source code, you owe them back any changes.

2018-09-24 20:29:36 UTC

Whereas with MIT license essentially all you owe them is to not remove their copyright from the original code or pretend you wrote it

2018-09-24 20:30:53 UTC

The GPL3 is more than anything a license to protect the original author, and a set of rules and procedures you must follow in order to use his code

2018-09-24 20:34:46 UTC

The problem with the Tivoization clause is that rather than just enforce compliance with the license, it now restricts you into the sort of product you will be allowed to release. You cant add any hardware barrier to a preconfigured linux tvbox/kiosk/etc. that keeps me from installing my own software such as a linux desktop distribution and using it as a cheap PC. It might be best to let me do this, but tbh it adds extra liabilities

2018-09-24 20:36:27 UTC

Such as you buy a little tv streaming box that runs its UI on linux, and then your spergy little hacker son uses it to boot into a linux desktop and watch PornHub at 7fps.

2018-09-24 20:37:02 UTC

Parents have no way of preconcieving that this would be possible with the right knowhow. Now you have a lawsuit on your hands

2018-09-24 20:38:47 UTC

GPL3 is also known as viral -- they dont just want your changes, they want your full project if it uses any GPL code. Actually half the crowd disagrees on this and half attempts to verbally enforce it. So half the people using GPL3 dont even understand it

2018-09-24 20:48:09 UTC

Disclaimer: I used to thronk GPL3 was a chill guy, now i'm just kinda stuck on it cause i like hacking GZDOOM src

2018-09-24 20:49:10 UTC

a lot of businesses have zero-GPL policies, not even for output.

2018-09-24 21:22:09 UTC

Is GZDoom still the most popular source port?

2018-09-24 21:22:36 UTC

I've lost track, because there was just this point in time where you'd have a source port of the week.

2018-09-24 21:25:58 UTC

ya Zdoom is no longer in dev

2018-09-24 21:26:16 UTC

GZDoom is the best and most maintained and versatile modern source port

2018-09-24 21:27:26 UTC

Chocolate Doom is still the best port for barebones-authenticity of the original games, and GZDoom is the best for heavy modding/hacking

2018-09-24 21:28:57 UTC

although arguably for Boom-compatible mods, PRBoom+ will have much faster performance in OpenGL than GZDoom

2018-09-24 22:03:23 UTC

I just want a legit source port of Blood. That's all I want.

2018-09-24 22:05:18 UTC

how about a java port of blood <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-09-24 22:13:34 UTC

dont hold your breath of a source port of blood, as irr they have lost the code

2018-09-24 22:18:27 UTC

that mod was a reverse engineered port the actual code is part mia

2018-09-24 22:19:25 UTC

the fact that the build engine is open source did help them alot

2018-09-24 22:20:05 UTC

did you know Build2 is out?

2018-09-24 22:20:23 UTC


2018-09-24 22:21:54 UTC

BloodGDX is super

2018-09-24 22:22:19 UTC

I havent tried Bloodgdx just cause i hate java ๐Ÿคฃ

2018-09-24 22:22:22 UTC

Although kinda trippy having to RMB a .jar file and choosing to run java on it

2018-09-24 22:34:34 UTC

๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ”ซ

2018-09-24 22:34:39 UTC

but $20 says "muh russia" will continue

2018-09-24 22:35:34 UTC

that sounds oddly familiar

2018-09-24 22:35:53 UTC

I remember some posters on reddit whom only talked about how great Iran was

2018-09-24 22:36:10 UTC

Even the way they wrote made it all seem like actual talking points

2018-09-24 22:37:33 UTC

I remember some strange astroturfing on that "why westerners shouldn't wipe themselves" post

2018-09-24 22:38:49 UTC

```Iranian imposter content on the anti-Trump subreddits like r/MarchAgainstTrump gained considerable traction. ```

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2018-09-24 22:39:42 UTC

Iran gets the 280mm Atomic shell

2018-09-24 23:56:20 UTC

Coaraline believes the great lie of Open Source is that you would have equal ownership, IE equal concentrations of power between all contributors, from the lowly PR peasant, to apparently the Creator of Linux himself.

This is of course unprecedented. You've never had equal ownership--depending on the author's license of choice you typically have less rights to use the code than the author--who can do whatever they want with it, while you must abide their license.
This goes the same or even more so when it comes to distribution of power pertaining to decisionmaking within the project itself--it is solely at the project creator's discretion, fork it if you don't like it.
Wot a fuggin deludanoid.


2018-09-24 23:57:39 UTC

He is literally pissed because Linus made it to the top of his own project <:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-09-25 00:05:53 UTC

I'm to guess that all the stas she shows here are pulled from her stat farms on github, not some other unbiased source


2018-09-25 00:08:01 UTC

``"Most women who participate in Open Source make fewer than 10 contributions per year"``
Somehow men's fault women dont write some code

2018-09-25 00:09:00 UTC

very <:high_iq:382980759012638731>

2018-09-25 00:10:38 UTC

This was a fun one

2018-09-25 00:10:54 UTC

white hat+++

2018-09-25 00:11:49 UTC

lol he's so <:triggered:382980748115968000>


2018-09-25 00:11:54 UTC

kinda true

2018-09-25 00:12:45 UTC

he's mad at some nigga who said this

2018-09-25 00:22:28 UTC

I can hardly understand a word this trap is saying, thafuq is with that retard lisp

2018-09-25 00:35:49 UTC

Some more slides, note I cropped out the HIDEOUS FUCKING ALPHA BLEED at the top of all these slides.
Very, very unprofessional PowerPoint <:covfefe:440543908846632980>


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2018-09-25 00:39:25 UTC

probly vodka, sounds drunk as hell


2018-09-25 00:42:31 UTC

@M4Gunner helps with the mental disorder

2018-09-25 00:45:47 UTC

he can help himself in other ways <:pepe_hang:460603218766987298>

2018-09-25 00:46:27 UTC

i had to watch that in bits and pieces

2018-09-25 03:05:32 UTC

I want to post memes

2018-09-25 03:05:34 UTC

But i cannot

2018-09-25 03:05:52 UTC

because this server is of the รผber grey

2018-09-25 03:12:35 UTC

what a gay baby, pissing and moaing of his lack of advancement

2018-09-25 03:12:58 UTC

>wanting to be on a server for some guy on the internet for more than a day

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2018-09-25 03:13:00 UTC

btw, keep this fucking channel clean

2018-09-25 03:13:11 UTC

<#423219052849397773> or get the fuck out

2018-09-25 03:13:16 UTC

Are you saying there' sno compsci memes

2018-09-25 03:13:21 UTC

Because if you are you're a loon

2018-09-25 03:13:53 UTC

you cant post memes so pipe down

2018-09-25 03:14:33 UTC

shitposting goes in <#372507611284766722>

2018-09-25 06:12:26 UTC

this bitch is no fucking satanist

2018-09-25 06:13:17 UTC

Commandment 11 : "When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him."

2018-09-25 06:13:41 UTC

Commandment 8: "Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself."

2018-09-25 06:14:05 UTC

Commandment 1: "Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked."

2018-09-25 06:14:16 UTC

Commandment 2: "Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them."

2018-09-25 06:14:25 UTC

Commandment 3: "When in anotherโ€™s lair, show him respect or else do not go there."

2018-09-25 06:14:42 UTC

She is breaking like half of the satanist commandments

2018-09-25 06:15:09 UTC

not the worst rules

2018-09-25 06:17:32 UTC

this woman is pure cancer

2018-09-25 06:18:24 UTC

if you scroll up some niggas were pointing out some formatting differences between that email and every other email he's ever sent

2018-09-25 06:25:26 UTC
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2018-09-25 06:25:44 UTC

ive read it already

2018-09-25 06:25:48 UTC

thats how i live my life

2018-09-25 06:25:50 UTC

yea i did see that mentioned, a little conspiratorial for my liking but will keep an eye on it

2018-09-25 06:26:21 UTC

much of Lavey's bible was plagiarized from Might Makes Right, which was obscure and forgotten at the time

2018-09-25 06:26:42 UTC

the rest is just recycled Ayn Rand but i do think the commandments are quite nice

2018-09-25 06:28:25 UTC

yea the commandments is the only part I take note of

2018-09-25 06:35:37 UTC

i will be pulling that into all my projects

2018-09-25 06:37:11 UTC


2018-09-25 06:52:41 UTC

once you start Electrical Engineering youll never watch an Indian tutorial again

2018-09-25 06:53:27 UTC

compiler error vs a small fire

2018-09-25 06:54:39 UTC

oh yea man

2018-09-25 06:54:45 UTC

those dudes are crazy

2018-09-25 06:55:23 UTC

you seen em just jam the wires straight in the wall, who gives a fuck about male end female end just need wires bruh

2018-09-25 06:56:13 UTC

my co done some installs in india, the field tech was just appalled cos they wire their appliances in like that

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2018-09-25 06:57:37 UTC

That is not safe at all

2018-09-25 07:14:17 UTC

thats a good one

2018-09-25 11:33:39 UTC

"Many (most/all?) of the notable 'rants' that are highlighted of Linus going off are not to first time offenders, they are not to innocent victims or noobs just dipping their toe into the development process that deserve benefit of the doubt."

2018-09-25 11:34:36 UTC

"What Sarah Sharp and others of her kind have been trying to do for years is to impose the American corporate culture on the Linux development community. I think it is a horrible culture, and the Linux community should do well to ignore such people. I like the fact that the 'old timers' in Linux dev are brutally honest. I think it helped Linux become the success it is today."

2018-09-25 12:44:22 UTC

interesitng converstaion going on over there

2018-09-25 13:04:38 UTC

half these people are ingrates

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2018-09-25 17:15:15 UTC

If Linus is stepping away why even honour all the hard work and time he has put into making Linux what it is today and rename it just to spite him like the petulant children we are

2018-09-25 17:15:48 UTC

are we going to live through the death of linux?

2018-09-25 17:16:18 UTC

atm I feel like its all saber rattling

2018-09-25 17:16:26 UTC

we are going to live through the death of the careers of people who are trying to kill Linux

2018-09-25 17:16:33 UTC

and then it'll pick right back up

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2018-09-25 17:17:16 UTC

seems like a stupid place for a last stand

2018-09-25 17:17:22 UTC

That is was my initial impression when I heard of and read the story

2018-09-25 17:17:29 UTC

but I really don't think they are going to do anything significant

2018-09-25 17:18:43 UTC

baww your meritocracy that absolutely doesn't discriminate based on any personal traits beyond ability to do the work required doesn't pander to my feels, we demand you change your wildly successful platform to suit our whims

2018-09-25 17:19:23 UTC

yeah good luck playing the long game with that tactic

2018-09-25 17:29:15 UTC

So thatโ€™s what the SJWs are complaining about?

2018-09-25 17:29:58 UTC

muh meritocracy is privilege

2018-09-25 17:31:34 UTC

hard to be a winner if you are a total failure of a looser that have the only defining trait of going around in womans underwear in public

2018-09-25 17:32:32 UTC

Look at this bullshit


2018-09-25 17:34:24 UTC

I hope Puma scrolls up all 3 days of this

2018-09-25 17:34:47 UTC

I hope he dosen't

2018-09-25 17:35:02 UTC

because I just skimed most of it and I got eye cancer from it

2018-09-25 17:35:43 UTC

well arent you privileged to have both eyesight and literacy

2018-09-25 17:35:59 UTC

*hssssssss* ๐Ÿ˜พ

2018-09-25 17:36:22 UTC

that was supposed to be a witch but theres no witch emoji

2018-09-25 17:37:17 UTC

which is uninclusive in itself and it makes chaos magickians not feel safe

2018-09-25 17:46:44 UTC

If they can ruin linux and furry they will also ruin satanism, my my what a time to be alive!

2018-09-25 17:51:00 UTC

@Puma Wow, stuff like that could easily be interpreted as and admission that "minorities have no merit to the work we're doing"

2018-09-25 17:53:23 UTC

TIL The left are also race realist

2018-09-25 17:53:58 UTC

@Legiondude Thats kinda been their main point every single fkn time.

2018-09-25 17:54:28 UTC

Im getting annoyed about it

2018-09-25 18:01:10 UTC

It's more the bigotry of low expectations than race realism. Though those 2 terms are becoming almost synonymous

2018-09-25 18:03:53 UTC

Theyve added a Backlash section to the Covenant wiki

2018-09-25 18:07:49 UTC

archive, assuming this gets trashed by editfags http://archive.is/pFuqk

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2018-09-25 18:40:17 UTC

Nah, you know what? Part of what's holding this shitty world together is that there's someone there that if you fuck with them too much they have a "fuck you" button to retaliate with.

2018-09-25 18:41:27 UTC

These guys are holding a gun to the head of the Linux kernel, and I hope they actually pull the fucking trigger. Sometimes shit's gotta burn.

2018-09-25 18:45:41 UTC

It's not like there aren't even plausible replacements for Linux. I've been gunning for ReactOS for awhile.

2018-09-25 18:49:22 UTC

or Windows

2018-09-25 18:49:37 UTC

no, Microsoft signed off on the Contributor Covenant too

2018-09-25 18:50:08 UTC

its chill coz i never update

2018-09-25 18:50:22 UTC

which Windows version are you running?

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2018-09-25 18:50:33 UTC

eh, that's okay I guess

2018-09-25 18:50:46 UTC

the issue mostly affects w10

2018-09-25 18:51:14 UTC

I'm planning to upgrade to 8.1 pro and i have the disc and key i just havent actually needed to upgrade for any reason <:GWcmeisterPeepoShrug:403295315685539852>

2018-09-25 18:51:26 UTC

don't, it's mega die

2018-09-25 18:51:43 UTC

well i wont write over my 7 install

2018-09-25 18:53:34 UTC

i hope Micros' new leadership quits to go work at EA or something

2018-09-25 18:54:01 UTC

restore the greatness that once was

2018-09-25 18:58:54 UTC

Not updating windows makes me reeee.

2018-09-25 18:59:25 UTC

it's a bit of a massive security issue, hopefully you have Windows 7 at the latest version already

2018-09-25 18:59:57 UTC

All of the widespread cyber attacks that you constantly hear about are always done on outdated versions of Windows.

2018-09-25 19:00:15 UTC

With exploits that Microsoft already patched months ahead.

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2018-09-25 19:42:57 UTC

Man, I heard of people worshipping Linux, but this is something else.

2018-09-25 19:55:22 UTC

Eh, still second fiddle to TempleOS

2018-09-25 19:55:39 UTC

Ubuntu Christian Edition is just Ubuntu with some Christian programming in it

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Where as TempleOS is
``D I V I N E L Y I N S P I R E D``

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2018-09-25 20:07:41 UTC

hmm might need some of them candlewax seals of old

2018-09-25 22:35:23 UTC

Watch what happens when thousands of programs depend on ten lines of code written by one guy who might get mad and pull it

2018-09-25 22:35:43 UTC

Actually NPM fucked him and republished his unpublished code against his wishes

2018-09-25 22:36:43 UTC

niggas cant even pad their own strings smh

2018-09-25 22:39:47 UTC

Yes also Lerna is pro MS-13

2018-09-25 22:40:09 UTC

and these are just cribbed from the nigga ESR's pretty interesting blog

2018-09-25 22:42:42 UTC

``They all have their excuses, but the fact is that these companies care only about the millions of dollars that ICE is paying them and are willing to ignore all the horrible things that ICE does.``
--or maybe they also care about illegal immigration <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-09-25 22:45:22 UTC

Daily reminder that restricting your license in an update does not mean people can no longer use what theyre already using. They have the original license and can continue to use the current iteration of the software. They simply wouldnt be able to use any new versions.

2018-09-25 22:46:27 UTC

So ICE-affiliated companies could easily just freeze their version unless it is a program that sees and needs continued support

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lol sneaky


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just be like fuck this nigga too and pull his name off

2018-09-25 22:55:54 UTC

im not sure what actually happened here but it looks bad

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2018-09-26 00:21:12 UTC

this anti-mertocracy crowd are equity/equality of outcome morons

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aka commies

2018-09-26 01:14:43 UTC

but muh ANTIFA


2018-09-26 01:39:48 UTC

Damn you Linus for having a thot daughter


2018-09-26 01:40:08 UTC

thots can't program

2018-09-26 01:40:20 UTC

those who identify as thots can't program either

2018-09-26 01:40:28 UTC

thots code in ruby not c

2018-09-26 01:40:51 UTC

If you don't know C or Java, gtfo

2018-09-26 01:41:10 UTC

Coraline's actual name is Corey Dale, so I can now dispense with that farce

2018-09-26 01:41:30 UTC

I won't give him the satisfaction

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fuck the DSM-IV

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So much Oof


2018-09-26 02:03:14 UTC

some of the above links may be a bit over the top especially the one from 8chan

2018-09-26 02:09:59 UTC

Corey's day: 1) pretend to code; 2) pedophilia, dilating; 3) pretend to code; 4) pretend to code; 5) ???you dont want to know

2018-09-26 02:11:01 UTC

Of course I'm not sure if those claims are credible

2018-09-26 02:25:24 UTC

This is from his blog originally but i skipped over it


2018-09-26 02:30:06 UTC

holy shit

2018-09-26 02:30:10 UTC

seriously unstable

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2018-09-26 02:36:35 UTC

@ppnz @M4Gunner he needs to locked up or lobtomized

2018-09-26 02:44:28 UTC

typical xanny bar addict behavior

2018-09-26 02:45:22 UTC

House of Leaves is trash btw

2018-09-26 03:00:25 UTC

``So yes, in looking back over my year at GitHub I see that there was, in fact, a real problem with empathy.
But that problem wasn't mine.``
Great ending lol

2018-09-26 03:00:53 UTC

The best way to end a long piece of writing is always to show that you've learned nothing

2018-09-26 03:01:22 UTC

I'll tell you what GitHub doesn't like, niggas that overdose on xanax when they have work

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2018-09-26 03:26:34 UTC

Okay so Lerna actually reverted their anti-ICE commit within 24 hours and ended up banning the contributor ๐Ÿคฃ

2018-09-26 06:27:31 UTC

what a fucking nutjob

2018-09-26 06:56:09 UTC

the testicular fortitude of a pumpkin

2018-09-26 08:52:21 UTC

in my opinion i think they should pull their code while they still can

2018-09-26 08:54:49 UTC

these plebitors want to take everything

2018-09-26 10:02:32 UTC

i dunno if that's the best idea though

2018-09-26 10:05:21 UTC

god this is a shitshow

2018-09-26 10:18:07 UTC

you're just a brogrammer, i bet you didn't even know what linux was before this /s

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at the very start

2018-09-26 10:35:39 UTC

i trust them a lot

2018-09-26 10:36:16 UTC

"political correctness is fascism disguised as politeness" - George Carlin

2018-09-26 10:41:27 UTC

"people, if they read it at face value, there's no freakout, but it can be weaponized and that's maybe a problem"

2018-09-26 10:41:57 UTC

"and read the twitter of this girl who championed it, it's uh...."

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"8. Individual characteristics, including but not limited to, body, sex, sexual preference, race, language, religion, nationality, or political preferences are irrelevant in the scope of the project and will not be taken into account concerning your value or that of your contribution to the project."

2018-09-26 10:50:55 UTC

that's the least egregious one I've seen so far lol

2018-09-26 10:51:06 UTC

"just do the fucking work nothing else matters"

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