It's from a website that got posted on /pol/.

So not credible at all.

But it's actually possible without any conspiracy.

They had the event already planned, and the shooting conveniently happened. Because frankly there's like one every month or two.

I will wait for a credible place to say something about it

But yeah, this theory is plausible

still, people might say that the whole thing was a inside job to ban guns

Hello fellow gun lovers

Do you know where you put your guns?

I'd like to examine them

si

esé where are the assault rifles @OliveBlanc

lol

did he mislabel assault weapons as assault rifles?

I can't watch children commit suicide.

Meanwhile, 5 years in the past.... https://imgur.com/gallery/ftFa9KX/comment/37727448

man arrested for building autonomous weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hldkj7pBPAs&t=13s

Friendly reminder that the ABC has been a piece of shit for a while now

@Reaps how do you feel about that use of strayan tax dollaers?

Someone posted a link on SoA about it

So I'll be chasing that up

CONVENIENT

To what?

"An AR-15."

UNBIASED™

"high velocity assault rifle"

what, do they travel through the *fuckin' air* all by themselves now?

It shouldn't even be that hard to classify what an assault rifle is, but because it involves people trying to ban things they don't like, they just mire it down in legal jargon

HMMMM

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

I wonder if you designed a trigger that would essentially perform the action of a bump stock by requiring you to maintain pressure yet automatically resetting itself every time the trigger is pulled, whether that would be a legal way to increase rate of fire like a bump stock. Doesn't the law simply require one pull of the trigger to make multiple discharges of the weapon for it to count? This way it still requires trigger pulls because the reset is automatic, but not the discharge itself.

and I wonder what a trigger like that would do to your finger...

it might even be insanely impractical, you might have to make the trigger so you could use two fingers to operate it

Nobody likes to roll the dice with their life, not even if they get paid really well. Looks what happened when they cornered the Dorner, they burned him out instead of storming in

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] Ah, just make a foregrip/pump action bumpfire

Can't be too hard

yeah I just wonder if it'd be legal

it's obviously possible

Or just go back to WWI shit and convert bolt actions to selfloaders

You could also possibly use a feature that if the trigger has already been pressed, if it's pressed again as soon as possible (mainting pressure) then the weight of the trigger is much less, making the trigger still safe getting started but easier to fire multiple shots

So a two stage trigger?

if that's what you'd call it, sure

It's all entirely doable, but it's not been done because regular automatics are simpler and nobody wants to get the ATF on them

isn't that what caused waco

IIRC the ATF went after them because they were making some device like that which made semi automatics fire like automatics

I think they tried to claim that

just got back from the range

there was a guy with a bullpup 6.5cm deserttech

next to me shooting .5" groups using little circle note stickers

I was amazed.

I was shooting 338 lap but I have been unable to bring my groups under .7" without a bench rest

my fucking scope rings got loose when I was shooting

causing my groups to drop 3" down suddenly

lol

not good

>bullpup

**BEGONE**

I dunno why he would choose that; but from a bolt action perspective it's kinda sensible

in a use case where he actually needed a super precise shot; it's not like he's likely to do significant followups

so cycling the action is not super duper important

he was a really good shooter though

like; he was hitting the center of those fucking little stickers without any problem

I ran out of ladder tests, zoomed in on his target and watched him shoot

I want to get to his skill level

but I do not want to be as obese as he was

giant beer belly

sad thing is; with my SPR (18", SS, Heavy profile ML Gas) AR, I can shoot better followups than with my fucking super expensive 338 lap

First shot I'm generally dead on; everything after that is usually offset because I keep fucking flinching like a pussy

I take it that you have an armory?

not really

aw

I have 4 distinct rifles (AR w/ .458 socom 16", AR w/ 223 wylde 18", Savage FVSR 22lr, and my sako TRG-42 in 338 lap)

and one pistol

The .458 was just a workaround; I didn't want to need to ditch my standard cap kits so I re-labeled them all to 458

Also; I did want to buy a 45/70, and this is just as good

I don't really have anything milsurp, although I might get ahold of a M1A in 308 so I can go 2 gun

I didn't want to go and get some rifle that would get me halfway to 2000Y

so I wasn't really attracted to 6.5CM

Would a clockwork or otherwise heavily built trigger mechanism fix the bullpup trigger issue?

So that there's no metal flex involved or shenanigans from shitty trigger linkages

yeah

there are a handful of good designs

some of them rely on sear based pin drops

i.e. the trigger group is still in the handguard, but the pin assy is linked with a long L bracket that catches on the sear

The only thing that has bothered me about bullpups is a assessablity of the magazine. If there was a way to do a mag change while keeping the barrel pointed at what i was engaging it would be more appealing.

It might just be something to practice but i dont think i have every seen some able to do this

https://youtu.be/YgNjfXbjrk0

Maybe it is just because all i have every really trained with was an M4

@DanConway
I guess that's the problem.

If you find someone who only trained in bullpups, they might reach a similar conclusion

there are a few tactics

I feel the setbacks generally outweigh the advantages from a civilian perspective

in a bolt gun it's not too much of a pain

@DanConway Maybe top feeding LMGs can make a comback in bullpup form? No need for a decent trigger pull on those

doubtful

I think the AR style platform will see material changes for about the next 30-40 years until there's some breakthrough

from the GPMG perspective, it's gonna be all belts

from the SAW-style things; it'll probably just be standard rifle body + different barrel + larger mags

surefire's 60's are pretty nice

The Marines have gone back to sort of a WWII style LMG with the IAR.

Interesting that we and the russians (RPK) came to similar conclusions on firepower

I heard you talkin shit on creedmoor lol

Where?

Idk maybe I misread it haha

I dunno if I would call the IAR "ww2 style"

I think he means a mag fed support gun like the bar

I don't think they had anything that would fit into the role that was less than 10 lbs

yeah

Rather than belt

That's definitely what I'm talking about in reference to the SAW getting nuked for the most part

There just isn't enough of a need for shitloads of suppressive fire in modern combat

Plus I guess large mags are easier to carry than drums

I wish I had more time to shoot. My groupings are shit across the board

for 6.5?

For literally everything I own

I probably should have used it as a stepping stone, but I decided I didn't want to just be at 1200

I wanted to push high energy further

Pistol, creedmoor dmr

Later this week my vector comes in and I'll probably be shit with that too

My handloads got me a .4-something group

but it's still not enough

I need a shitload of US869

it did really fucking well for me

I didn't prepare a ladder for it though, just retumbo + 300gr smk

Also, I have a single 100yd range to shoot at, while the local 600 and 800 yard ranges costs a Saudi fortune to shoot at

no local BLM?

?

That's where I go when I want to shoot elr

Well, I dunno if you're amereagan, but since you're talking about a vector I'm assuming you probably are

Yes

Bureau of land management

Oh

i.e. federally controlled land

Yeah we have those, but the longest range they have near me is 75

yeah, that sucks

I'm in the land of the communists and I still get 100 20 minutes away from the city

I kinda wish I lived pout west. So much open land to shoot on

The worst part though is that I only get to shoot every other weekend so I never really get too much better

the west is best jek

Except for all the communists and Mormons

Fucking mormons

GRILL EM ALL

pogroms on mormons

mormons generally aren't bad unless you're one of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHpchzVEsoA

mfw a *vet* can't answer what an AR 15 is

ffs

"anything that fires more than an eight round clip"

This guy can't be for realsies

He's either the POGgiest POG that ever POG'd or it's a case of stolen valor

He keeps going on about bravery and cowardice

pro tip

when you're a 120Ib woman, bravery isn't going to keep you from getting raped by a 230Ib man

Charlie Kirk does better in live situations than he does on twitter tbh

Because he's said some rather silly things on twitter

Dude smashes people in person though, go figure

Kyle has had to grow up quick, too

He doesn't seem anywhere near as unhinged as Hogg is, though

It’s ironic too because Kyle was actually IN THE SCHOOL when the shooting happened. So you’d expect him to be the outrageous one. I guess giving him so much time on the media and all the attention gives him the idea that he has all this power to “change the world”.

But yeah the old guy in the video just presents how the left and/or liberals always use their emotions in arguments

Was Hogg at the school when it happened? Trying to separate fact from tinfoil. I thought he was at the school but not in the building where the shooting was happening

He said in an interview that he rode his bike three miles to get there once he heard there was a shooting going on

I think he actually got there before the police

Er

Has anyone asked him why he'd ride *towards* an active shooter situation?

I think he was a journalist, he’d write for the school newspaper and things of that nature

Yeah, that don't help his case tbh

Hm? Why not?

A teenager student going to a active shooter situation? What he would do? Take pictures of the bodies?

Also, I don't believe this guy is either sane or even served in the armed forces

ah, but you see, he cares so much about his fellow students he rushed there as soon as he heard

very brave

stunning and brave

yeah, like I said, he seems like the epitome of stolen valor

Which I believe Australian soldiers are no longer allowed to accuse others of anymore

because *bullying*

That's retarded

not 100% if that's the case, but I know it's definitely been debated

I would hate to live in Australia

Calling out someone for Stolen valor is nowhere near bullying

Mfw America is on its way there <:pepe_sad:378719408345841664>

Actually, now that I try to remember it

I think it was something like active service personnel being told that they weren't allowed to post on a facebook group about it

or something like that

```Under the Federal Defence Act, persons falsely representing themselves as returned soldiers, sailors or airmen, or wearing decorations that were not earned, can face up to six months' jail and a $3,300 fine.```

```Rex Crane, 83, who is the former president of the Ex-Prisoners of War Association, was exposed as a fake who allegedly claimed more than $405,000 as a disabled World War II veteran.

But Bill claims such action by the authorities is the exception to the rule.

"If politicians, police and the courts did not consistently fail to enforce the laws intended to protect veterans' and the community's interests, ANZMI wouldn't need to do their jobs for them," he said.

"Those who turn a blind eye to crime are complicit in its execution."

Unless there is a clear cut case of financial fraud, police tend to give military fantasists a low priority.```

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/crime-court/ashmore-man-charged-with-impersonating-a-soldier/news-story/09df4b86da99ec042733acf14a513a9a

@Reaps
Can't disagree with that

Active duty militaries need to keep quiet, specially with all the information gathering you can do over social media

Same for their families

Plus, the laws for Stolen valor seems decent

Oof

When your RAP Senior Constable also turns out to be a Sergeant in the Royal Australian Army

*b u s t e d*

Still got a minute to go on this video, still have nfi how it's going to end

I'm off to bed

"I need your service number"

*silence*

```Police inquiries with the Australian Defence Force confirmed the 41-year-old Ashmore man had been discharged from the army in July last year and had only served as a recruit for two months.```

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-09-20/virtual-veterans-pursued-online-for-stolen-valour/2267364

Fuck, is it illegal to pretend to be veteran on the internet?

I guess I'll have to stick to pretending to be a lawyer and a medical doctor then.

That's the spirit

Shieet

Shieet nigga

It's no coinsidence that we're reaching further and further to the world of 1984, and it's mainly due to these FUCKING LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS!! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!!

I like to get $200 for bullshit, alex

"a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use."

So i can have belt fed weapons that dont count<:GWragFeelsComfyMan:390321740158468096>

as long as they are semi auto

oh man that would class my nerfed AR with a fixed mag as an assault rifle

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28985/alyssa-milano-asks-kids-other-countries-chime-hank-berrien

https://twitter.com/bakoff333/status/980891973895753729

Tbh, that's probably the end goal

I guess, by changing the second amendment, they create precedent to change others

Bonus irony are the people in the twitter thread replying to this person with 'pffft noone said we're going to take all your guns, just regulate them better'

When for the past two weeks the mask has slipped and they've repeatedly been saying 'ban *all* guns'

Even better is in the same twitter thread, someone asks that person 'what weapons to you want to ban'

```In my opinion all semi automatics, rifles and handguns.```

Like.

ffs.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28962/wounded-army-vets-fiery-response-david-hogg-goes-amanda-prestigiacomo

Weida can be wild sometimes

He's right tho

Be less cunty, Dave.

Actually no. Be more of a cunt. Then only more cunts will be attracted to you, and your entire movement will look even more like just a big bunch of cunts

@Fulcrum010 nice name 🤣

yeah, I saw "church of the holy nudes is typing" and I'm like "who is th- oh, I know who that'll be"

David is a freedom fighter bless his soul

He isn't a political puppet that wants to get popular and the only way to get popular is to be a political puppet sinc he is empty any other way

Anyone able to help me with some questions about AR15 trigger group design?

@Dicks out for Sanguinius ARs trigger liberals is that what you are talking about?

People abused the words assault rifle so much Merriam Webster changed their definition of it

I think he might be talking about the trigger mechanism on an AR15?

yes the trigger mechanism

🤣 whoops @ethan

of the AR15/m4 variant

specificaly the trigger and hammer engagement surface

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