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The Republicans are right to abolish the estate tax. Itโs an incredibly inefficient tax that generates negligible revenue. The only justification for it is โspoiled rich kids donโt deserve money they didnโt earn.โ Which is sorta true, but itโs also true about all windfall gains (lottery, striking oil on your property, etc.)
We need less gun control not more
Theyโre infringing on my rights already
Those fuckers
NFA GO AWAY
Those Jewish cucks and their gun control
heres how you fix gun control
one, remove literally all the gun control laws and replace them with a very basic list of prohibited persons
two, solve the actual causes of crime
Guns donโt kill people
I kill people
Classic
i miss 2009
When memes were dreams
oh man I'm always happy when I get reminded of Jon Lajoie
show me your genitals
E=MC vagina
I can't put my fist in your college degree
i cant put my dick in your personality
steven crowder interviews the good guy with a gun
He used an AR-15 to stop the shooter
The ClowardโPiven strategy is a political strategy ...that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".
What a fucking great idea amirite?
AR-15? I get that the guy stopped the shooting but he couldโve destroyed an entire city block
it sounds like communism with extra steps
Normal citizens shouldnโt have RPGs
AK 15s were used in Vietnam to burn down jungles correct?
@DanConway exactly
it's essentially part of a revolutionary utopian vision
Now they're saying it might have been some sort of intra-family feud
The craziest part is that this strategy was actually implemented to some degree beginning in 66
the new deal
it all goes back to FDR
the idea that ypu can "create jobs" started with his policy
I'm just talking about the notion of intentionally causing crisis within governmental organizations.
specifically the welfare system
thats what i mean it all started with FDR era
the original progressives
well damn, not sure what you mean but I'm very interested
"The New Deal produced a political realignment, making the Democratic Party the majority (as well as the party that held the White House for seven out of the nine Presidential terms from 1933-69). With its base in liberal ideas, the South, traditional Democrats, big city machines, and the newly empowered labor unions and ethnic minorities. The Republicans were split, with conservatives opposing the entire New Deal as an alleged enemy of business and growth, and liberals accepting some of it and promising to make it more efficient."
I'm wondering what aspect of the new deal was intended to generate crisis, or if you're saying it did regardless of intention.
it all started with FDR
Seems like a suspicious rationale, that's for sure.
"stalling economic growth" especially
im trying to figure out if the problem started with FDR
or if it was Theodore Roosevelt that was the real problem
he expanded the federal ownership of land in the US
Oh sweet god my forex portfolio is finally going back up
Or maybe it's all George Washington's fault
Or maybe...
what the fuck am I looking at ๐
pure ideology
the funny part will be none of them are even working class
Louder with crowder. Lol
Whyโd you even watch that shit
Crowder's alright
Not really.
Some of it. Maybe. But overall. No
He made a good point about gun control which I have seenplay out very much with my own family which is that many people just think guns look scary even though they have no problems with carbines.
Obviously thats not every gun control advocate, but I see it all to often to be ignored
aside from that and amy schumer
I haven't seen much from him
And I'm talking about guns that are the same as carbines except for the mechanism that reloads it is different, but have a bout the same fire rate.
He plays too much into party politics. Heโs literally mainstream media but indie
He is much more credible than most MSM
He is definitely a conservative
Low bar.
Whatever
I respect his style
He tries to come with facts to support his arguments and seems legitimately open to other ideas
His bias is there, but he doesn't try to hide it or lie about it
A self serving conservative though. He doesnโt seem as interested in improving his own group as much as just discredit the other one
He presents a very reasonable conservative position
Well there is a lot to criticize idk
I haven't found a more insightful conservative voice
Though I need to look more into Ben Shapiro
I prefer Ben Shapiro, although I'm not a huge fan, but he makes good arguments, especially against SJWs.
Self critique is important if you want genuine improvement.
I'm not even looking for someone I strongly agree with
Just people with some intellectual rigor and curiosity
And different perspectives
I know weโre on sargons discord but heโs not much better
Who passes your bar then?
In the English media? Genuinely. No one person.
No one worth watching?
No one is interested in actual politics. More afraid of the big bad sjw. Meanwhile the nhs is being sold off to private investors and whatnot.
You can watch who you want but barely anyone touches on anything valuable and if they do. Generally it plays into party politics
Trying to find ideologically pure people to watch is a fruitless endeavor
Well I'm American
It isn't about finding someone who agrees with you totally it's finding rational people and comparing their arguments and coming to your own conclusions
And I find party politics fascinating if frustrating
If you take someone else's opinion as holy writ you're no better than the normies
Sargons the closest to me I've found and even I disagree with him regularly
I never said there's no strain. But in party politics facts are generally thrown out of the windows in favour of "I prefer this"
You get MORE strain the more parties you have with different solutions to a problem.
But as long as people agree on the facts you can then decide if you care about them or not.
And I don't ask people to be ideologically pure, but rather just be honest about the problems at hand and the decisions that needs to be made.
People are so afraid to make their own side look weak they end up conjuring lies to cover it.
How is Sargon dishonest?
I don't know where you got that word from.
>but rather just be honest about the problems at hand
And earlier you implied Sargon wasn't much better
So what's he wrong on, to you?
As mentioned earlier. Most "political" youtubers avoid actual politics.
I implied Sargon avoids real daily politics in favour of talking about some moronic blogger. Which is fine, but it's doing little on the political debate.
I never said Sargon was dishonest. From what I've noted (albeit I don't watch ALL of his stuff) he generally seems to cover the material properly when something is brought up, but he has to handpick the few things he wants to talk about.
The disbenefit of not being a major network, you can't cover everything. So it's fair. I just think he priotises things incorrectly.
Indeed
Youโll notice he uses twis to show contempt of the subject. Itโs amusing but ultimately ineffective
His long form videos? Definitely interesting
TWIS does bore me a bit lately
Um, this week in stupid is literally supposed to be the stupid stuff
It's largely an attack on the media, not politics
Radeon.
When you suck his dick, do you say thanks when you are done?
Did y'all miss the multi-hour-long political debates on his second channel?
I really like his conversations with other creators
I love this, coming to sargons discord and spouting ad hominem about supporting Sargon ๐
Youโre so quick to defend him. Let a man be imperfect, you iconoclast
I literally just said 5 mins ago I disagree with him regularly
The defense is perfectly understandable
๐
Sargon is interesting
But how does it taste?
Also just because one largely agrees with another doesn't mean the original statements aren't true
Deadly sucking Sargoy's dick now
*agreeing with other people? Wow what a normie*
Shit I love me some sausage
Sargon x thatguyt fanfic when
Big and thick black dick. Thankfully, Sargonโs black so Iโm good
But no, in all honesty. Sargon's main channel is largely irrelevant on the political front.
There's a video every now and then that touches on topics but a fat majority of it is just "Bleh". Such as SJW, feminists etc.
Yup
Because Sargon isn't explicitly a political YouTuber. You're complaining because he's not meeting your imaginary criteria.
Okay, he did start out with cultural and media criticism
Maybe his watchers enjoy seeing culture warriors get btfo'ed?
That feel when coach red-pill is turning out to be right
He literally started his channel over gamergate
Yeah, masturbation is fun, but useless
Yo, if you're watching his channel to see SJWs and feminists get slam dunked, you do you.
But don't come and try to claim it as some kind of political insight. (Which some people do)
Masturbation is very useful
After a while, there isn't much new. Specially if you follow other channels that beat him to the punch.
C o r r e c t
Intersectionalists is a growing threat on the social front of things. I'm glad to see it being attacked.
How many videos about "It's Okay to be White" can you watch?
Several
It needs more specific attack
Okay.
But do they have any seats in parliament?
Social, not political my dude
Sargon hasnโt released a fucking reading list
It depends on the perspective providing something new
Effectively? Several, given the rise of sjws in parliment
Thereโs no serious difference between social and political fronts
Sure.
If you're just interested in fighting a social war and not a political one that's fine.
Adorable
A lot of the problem currently is defining political philosophy
They are one in the same.
Marxism must be defeated be it social or political.
So
We are not partisans so it's often more difficult to know how to fight political battles
You are contradicting your defense
Sargon is criticizing irrelevance
?
You've yet to explain how the ideologicalend take over of the west is irrelevant
No
Are you genuinely stupid?
Aydin Paladin made an hour long video on it. I didn't even click on it. Then Bearing made another. Then Count Dankula. What else can they add? They can't.
Ad hominem me more daddy
Well they can't add anything if you don't pay attention
The fire department who got a huge paycheck cut and then handed out a "inflation adjustment" which took into account fuck all when she said there's no money tree (Theresa May)
Despite pulling the money tree on to give MPs a pay rise.
See that's political.
That affects people.
I don't think those firemen cares what some edgy kid says on a uni ground.
I'm not much for memey pwnage type channels anyway
They will when that edgy kid torches their car
Canada and the UK have both criminalized criticism of Islam in a continent where terror attacks are now weekly, that's not relevant?
Discussing the real world political changes that occur as a result of intersectionalSocial justice matters. The Ass drippings of legacy media do not
That's relevant but is largely detatched from SJWs and feminists.
And I know that statement sounds like I'm implying Canada and the UK share a comtinent
Legacy media is a huge issue
There is a crisis of trust in journalism
Obviously
Feeding many of the problems we face today and in the future
SJWs and Islam appalogia have the same ideological basis, intersectionality
Legacy media is an issue when not handled properly. It's not a global issue. It's an issue in english speaking countries.
Find me someone who *doesnt* know
The public knows
Itโs a meme now
Muh fake news
By English speaking I of course mean majority english. Not Europe as a whole. England, Australia, US, Canada etc.
The public knows less than you might think
Iโm skeptical of that assertion
Most people still rely on a single source of news
Most normies I've met consider MSM good enough
You mean Boomers?
Millenials too
Ach... mama mia
For instance, if you recall the recent shooting at the republican party charity baseball team practice in Alexandria, MSM initially reported the shooter used an AR15 or an M4 assault rifle, and long after people regurgitated this information even though it was factually untrue
Hm.
Aye
The shooter had a Soviet era SKS
But did it have a silencer though?
Until there is a solid chain of trust in journalism, the media must be continually attacked
Ironically the ban some politicians would later propose wouldn't have banned the SKS ๐ฌ
Hmm
Fair points
I would like to see people get more in depth in political analysis, but I recognize it takes a lot of work
There's dozens of cases like this, the media makes the narrative
Itโs not just that
Itโs the duplicity
Outside MSM leftists still have really strong corporate "new" factions that are hugely impactful
There is no alternative for normies they simply do not care enough to fact check their news
Indeed
Laziness is degenerate
most people out in aus havent heard of antifa unless its through some shit like vice or the guardian, in which case "good on em"
For instance CNN has reported Sam Hyde to have conducted his fifth mass shooting
loool
They didn't even bother googling him.
Hmm
They could have said it was hulk Hogan and probably get away with it
It's so incredibly lazy
Whatโs the primary motivation to Donaldo Trumpoโs voter population?
This is why everything think Trump literally runs the KKK, they only get their news from one source
Great Golden Man, within the house of white
saw an article spouting tim pool as the leader of antifa, and Big Man Tyrone as the leader of kekistan an "alt right haven"
Trump is a reaction to the corporate oligarchy that makes up "the establishment"
Yes
This is why they hate him so much
the power of the narrative to completely disintegrate any form of real journalism is insane
If he can get the 13th amendment fixed we have a serious chance of making this country great
Eliminating corporate personhood
This and double this
Fuck corporatism
It's not capitalism it's oligarchy
Yes yes
Look at us
Agreeing and shit.
What a bunch of fucking fags we are; being cordial and friendly
is it in motion? sorry outsider to the US, havent heard about this before
We need more shit flinging
Obama did 9/11
Fuck you
Gas the kikes race war now
Cantaloupe
Eat a burrito you fat hispanic
Si senor
@goustermix Maybe. Trumpโs hand picking Supreme Court Judges
@BrianBoru The most recent paradise papers was leaked through "legacy media". Food for thought (German, mind you)
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