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2017-11-07 02:14:46 UTC

The Republicans are right to abolish the estate tax. Itโ€™s an incredibly inefficient tax that generates negligible revenue. The only justification for it is โ€œspoiled rich kids donโ€™t deserve money they didnโ€™t earn.โ€ Which is sorta true, but itโ€™s also true about all windfall gains (lottery, striking oil on your property, etc.)

2017-11-07 03:04:10 UTC

We need less gun control not more

2017-11-07 03:04:18 UTC

Theyโ€™re infringing on my rights already

2017-11-07 03:04:25 UTC

Those fuckers

2017-11-07 03:04:39 UTC

NFA GO AWAY

2017-11-07 03:04:54 UTC

Those Jewish cucks and their gun control

2017-11-07 03:06:08 UTC

heres how you fix gun control

2017-11-07 03:06:28 UTC

one, remove literally all the gun control laws and replace them with a very basic list of prohibited persons

2017-11-07 03:06:39 UTC

two, solve the actual causes of crime

2017-11-07 03:09:13 UTC

Guns donโ€™t kill people

2017-11-07 03:09:17 UTC

I kill people

2017-11-07 03:10:58 UTC

Classic

2017-11-07 03:11:51 UTC

i miss 2009

2017-11-07 03:14:57 UTC

When memes were dreams

2017-11-07 03:15:08 UTC

oh man I'm always happy when I get reminded of Jon Lajoie

2017-11-07 03:16:02 UTC

show me your genitals

2017-11-07 03:16:36 UTC

E=MC vagina

2017-11-07 03:16:42 UTC

I can't put my fist in your college degree

2017-11-07 03:18:00 UTC

i cant put my dick in your personality

2017-11-07 03:30:27 UTC

steven crowder interviews the good guy with a gun

2017-11-07 03:34:29 UTC

He used an AR-15 to stop the shooter

2017-11-07 03:35:13 UTC

The Clowardโ€“Piven strategy is a political strategy ...that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".

2017-11-07 03:35:24 UTC

What a fucking great idea amirite?

2017-11-07 03:36:11 UTC

AR-15? I get that the guy stopped the shooting but he couldโ€™ve destroyed an entire city block

2017-11-07 03:36:18 UTC

it sounds like communism with extra steps

2017-11-07 03:36:19 UTC

Normal citizens shouldnโ€™t have RPGs

2017-11-07 03:36:51 UTC

AK 15s were used in Vietnam to burn down jungles correct?

2017-11-07 03:37:52 UTC

@DanConway exactly

2017-11-07 03:40:19 UTC

it's essentially part of a revolutionary utopian vision

2017-11-07 03:40:45 UTC

Now they're saying it might have been some sort of intra-family feud

2017-11-07 03:42:19 UTC

The craziest part is that this strategy was actually implemented to some degree beginning in 66

2017-11-07 03:42:43 UTC

the new deal

2017-11-07 03:42:55 UTC

it all goes back to FDR

2017-11-07 03:43:45 UTC

the idea that ypu can "create jobs" started with his policy

2017-11-07 03:44:54 UTC

I'm just talking about the notion of intentionally causing crisis within governmental organizations.

2017-11-07 03:45:31 UTC

specifically the welfare system

2017-11-07 03:47:00 UTC

thats what i mean it all started with FDR era

2017-11-07 03:47:11 UTC

the original progressives

2017-11-07 03:47:42 UTC

well damn, not sure what you mean but I'm very interested

2017-11-07 03:48:55 UTC

"The New Deal produced a political realignment, making the Democratic Party the majority (as well as the party that held the White House for seven out of the nine Presidential terms from 1933-69). With its base in liberal ideas, the South, traditional Democrats, big city machines, and the newly empowered labor unions and ethnic minorities. The Republicans were split, with conservatives opposing the entire New Deal as an alleged enemy of business and growth, and liberals accepting some of it and promising to make it more efficient."

2017-11-07 03:50:02 UTC

I'm wondering what aspect of the new deal was intended to generate crisis, or if you're saying it did regardless of intention.

2017-11-07 03:51:59 UTC

it all started with FDR

2017-11-07 03:52:16 UTC

Seems like a suspicious rationale, that's for sure.

2017-11-07 03:53:28 UTC

"stalling economic growth" especially

2017-11-07 03:53:35 UTC

im trying to figure out if the problem started with FDR

2017-11-07 03:54:00 UTC

or if it was Theodore Roosevelt that was the real problem

2017-11-07 03:54:32 UTC

he expanded the federal ownership of land in the US

2017-11-07 04:05:31 UTC

Oh sweet god my forex portfolio is finally going back up

2017-11-07 04:12:51 UTC

Or maybe it's all George Washington's fault

2017-11-07 04:12:56 UTC

Or maybe...

2017-11-07 04:14:49 UTC

what the fuck am I looking at ๐Ÿ˜’

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/377309893545164800/Screenshot_37.png

2017-11-07 04:15:33 UTC

pure ideology

2017-11-07 04:16:08 UTC

the funny part will be none of them are even working class

2017-11-07 04:19:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/377311033485819904/helicopters.jpg

2017-11-07 05:45:56 UTC

Louder with crowder. Lol

2017-11-07 05:46:41 UTC

Whyโ€™d you even watch that shit

2017-11-07 05:49:36 UTC

Crowder's alright

2017-11-07 05:52:18 UTC

Not really.

2017-11-07 05:52:36 UTC

Some of it. Maybe. But overall. No

2017-11-07 05:53:18 UTC

He made a good point about gun control which I have seenplay out very much with my own family which is that many people just think guns look scary even though they have no problems with carbines.

2017-11-07 05:53:42 UTC

Obviously thats not every gun control advocate, but I see it all to often to be ignored

2017-11-07 05:53:53 UTC

aside from that and amy schumer

2017-11-07 05:53:59 UTC

I haven't seen much from him

2017-11-07 05:54:42 UTC

And I'm talking about guns that are the same as carbines except for the mechanism that reloads it is different, but have a bout the same fire rate.

2017-11-07 05:55:21 UTC

He plays too much into party politics. Heโ€™s literally mainstream media but indie

2017-11-07 05:56:00 UTC

He is much more credible than most MSM

2017-11-07 05:56:12 UTC

He is definitely a conservative

2017-11-07 05:56:22 UTC

Low bar.

2017-11-07 05:56:30 UTC

Whatever

2017-11-07 05:56:36 UTC

I respect his style

2017-11-07 05:56:59 UTC

He tries to come with facts to support his arguments and seems legitimately open to other ideas

2017-11-07 05:57:27 UTC

His bias is there, but he doesn't try to hide it or lie about it

2017-11-07 05:57:43 UTC

A self serving conservative though. He doesnโ€™t seem as interested in improving his own group as much as just discredit the other one

2017-11-07 05:57:50 UTC

He presents a very reasonable conservative position

2017-11-07 05:58:14 UTC

Well there is a lot to criticize idk

2017-11-07 05:59:32 UTC

I haven't found a more insightful conservative voice

2017-11-07 05:59:42 UTC

Though I need to look more into Ben Shapiro

2017-11-07 06:00:20 UTC

I prefer Ben Shapiro, although I'm not a huge fan, but he makes good arguments, especially against SJWs.

2017-11-07 06:00:34 UTC

Self critique is important if you want genuine improvement.

2017-11-07 06:00:47 UTC

I'm not even looking for someone I strongly agree with

2017-11-07 06:01:10 UTC

Just people with some intellectual rigor and curiosity

2017-11-07 06:01:21 UTC

And different perspectives

2017-11-07 06:01:33 UTC

I know weโ€™re on sargons discord but heโ€™s not much better

2017-11-07 06:01:55 UTC

Who passes your bar then?

2017-11-07 06:02:26 UTC

In the English media? Genuinely. No one person.

2017-11-07 06:03:04 UTC

No one worth watching?

2017-11-07 06:04:05 UTC

No one is interested in actual politics. More afraid of the big bad sjw. Meanwhile the nhs is being sold off to private investors and whatnot.

2017-11-07 06:04:52 UTC

You can watch who you want but barely anyone touches on anything valuable and if they do. Generally it plays into party politics

2017-11-07 06:08:32 UTC

Trying to find ideologically pure people to watch is a fruitless endeavor

2017-11-07 06:08:37 UTC

Well I'm American

2017-11-07 06:09:01 UTC

It isn't about finding someone who agrees with you totally it's finding rational people and comparing their arguments and coming to your own conclusions

2017-11-07 06:09:03 UTC

And I find party politics fascinating if frustrating

2017-11-07 06:09:34 UTC

If you take someone else's opinion as holy writ you're no better than the normies

2017-11-07 06:10:07 UTC

Sargons the closest to me I've found and even I disagree with him regularly

2017-11-07 06:10:42 UTC

I never said there's no strain. But in party politics facts are generally thrown out of the windows in favour of "I prefer this"
You get MORE strain the more parties you have with different solutions to a problem.
But as long as people agree on the facts you can then decide if you care about them or not.

2017-11-07 06:11:54 UTC

And I don't ask people to be ideologically pure, but rather just be honest about the problems at hand and the decisions that needs to be made.
People are so afraid to make their own side look weak they end up conjuring lies to cover it.

2017-11-07 06:12:24 UTC

How is Sargon dishonest?

2017-11-07 06:12:34 UTC

I don't know where you got that word from.

2017-11-07 06:12:54 UTC

>but rather just be honest about the problems at hand

2017-11-07 06:13:29 UTC

And earlier you implied Sargon wasn't much better

2017-11-07 06:13:46 UTC

So what's he wrong on, to you?

2017-11-07 06:15:30 UTC

As mentioned earlier. Most "political" youtubers avoid actual politics.
I implied Sargon avoids real daily politics in favour of talking about some moronic blogger. Which is fine, but it's doing little on the political debate.
I never said Sargon was dishonest. From what I've noted (albeit I don't watch ALL of his stuff) he generally seems to cover the material properly when something is brought up, but he has to handpick the few things he wants to talk about.

The disbenefit of not being a major network, you can't cover everything. So it's fair. I just think he priotises things incorrectly.

2017-11-07 06:15:57 UTC

Indeed

2017-11-07 06:16:57 UTC

Youโ€™ll notice he uses twis to show contempt of the subject. Itโ€™s amusing but ultimately ineffective

2017-11-07 06:17:15 UTC

His long form videos? Definitely interesting

2017-11-07 06:19:33 UTC

TWIS does bore me a bit lately

2017-11-07 06:19:46 UTC

Um, this week in stupid is literally supposed to be the stupid stuff

2017-11-07 06:20:00 UTC

It's largely an attack on the media, not politics

2017-11-07 06:20:01 UTC

Radeon.

2017-11-07 06:20:32 UTC

When you suck his dick, do you say thanks when you are done?

2017-11-07 06:20:35 UTC

Did y'all miss the multi-hour-long political debates on his second channel?

2017-11-07 06:21:02 UTC

I really like his conversations with other creators

2017-11-07 06:21:19 UTC

I love this, coming to sargons discord and spouting ad hominem about supporting Sargon ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2017-11-07 06:21:30 UTC

Youโ€™re so quick to defend him. Let a man be imperfect, you iconoclast

2017-11-07 06:21:48 UTC

I literally just said 5 mins ago I disagree with him regularly

2017-11-07 06:22:01 UTC

The defense is perfectly understandable

2017-11-07 06:22:07 UTC

๐Ÿ˜

2017-11-07 06:22:26 UTC

Sargon is interesting

2017-11-07 06:22:28 UTC

But how does it taste?

2017-11-07 06:22:28 UTC

Also just because one largely agrees with another doesn't mean the original statements aren't true

2017-11-07 06:22:41 UTC

@DanielKO You referring to Sargon's cock or his ass?

2017-11-07 06:22:43 UTC

Deadly sucking Sargoy's dick now

2017-11-07 06:22:56 UTC

*agreeing with other people? Wow what a normie*

2017-11-07 06:23:08 UTC

Shit I love me some sausage

2017-11-07 06:23:19 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/377342234577600522/sausage.gif

2017-11-07 06:23:39 UTC

Sargon x thatguyt fanfic when

2017-11-07 06:23:44 UTC

Big and thick black dick. Thankfully, Sargonโ€™s black so Iโ€™m good

2017-11-07 06:24:28 UTC

But no, in all honesty. Sargon's main channel is largely irrelevant on the political front.
There's a video every now and then that touches on topics but a fat majority of it is just "Bleh". Such as SJW, feminists etc.

2017-11-07 06:24:41 UTC

Yup

2017-11-07 06:25:05 UTC

Because Sargon isn't explicitly a political YouTuber. You're complaining because he's not meeting your imaginary criteria.

2017-11-07 06:25:11 UTC

Okay, he did start out with cultural and media criticism

2017-11-07 06:25:27 UTC

Maybe his watchers enjoy seeing culture warriors get btfo'ed?

2017-11-07 06:25:36 UTC

That feel when coach red-pill is turning out to be right

2017-11-07 06:25:42 UTC

He literally started his channel over gamergate

2017-11-07 06:26:05 UTC

Yeah, masturbation is fun, but useless

2017-11-07 06:26:06 UTC

Yo, if you're watching his channel to see SJWs and feminists get slam dunked, you do you.
But don't come and try to claim it as some kind of political insight. (Which some people do)

2017-11-07 06:26:20 UTC

Masturbation is very useful

2017-11-07 06:26:29 UTC

After a while, there isn't much new. Specially if you follow other channels that beat him to the punch.

2017-11-07 06:26:50 UTC

C o r r e c t

2017-11-07 06:26:51 UTC

Intersectionalists is a growing threat on the social front of things. I'm glad to see it being attacked.

2017-11-07 06:26:55 UTC

How many videos about "It's Okay to be White" can you watch?

2017-11-07 06:27:04 UTC

Several

2017-11-07 06:27:07 UTC

It needs more specific attack

2017-11-07 06:27:07 UTC

Okay.
But do they have any seats in parliament?

2017-11-07 06:27:22 UTC

Social, not political my dude

2017-11-07 06:27:23 UTC

Sargon hasnโ€™t released a fucking reading list

2017-11-07 06:27:27 UTC

It depends on the perspective providing something new

2017-11-07 06:27:37 UTC

Effectively? Several, given the rise of sjws in parliment

2017-11-07 06:27:47 UTC

Thereโ€™s no serious difference between social and political fronts

2017-11-07 06:27:47 UTC

Sure.
If you're just interested in fighting a social war and not a political one that's fine.

2017-11-07 06:27:55 UTC

Adorable

2017-11-07 06:28:09 UTC

A lot of the problem currently is defining political philosophy

2017-11-07 06:28:13 UTC

They are one in the same.

2017-11-07 06:28:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/377343495251165184/image.jpg

2017-11-07 06:28:27 UTC

Marxism must be defeated be it social or political.

2017-11-07 06:28:33 UTC

So

2017-11-07 06:28:39 UTC

We are not partisans so it's often more difficult to know how to fight political battles

2017-11-07 06:28:48 UTC

You are contradicting your defense

2017-11-07 06:29:02 UTC

Sargon is criticizing irrelevance

2017-11-07 06:29:13 UTC

?

2017-11-07 06:29:21 UTC

You've yet to explain how the ideologicalend take over of the west is irrelevant

2017-11-07 06:29:27 UTC

No

2017-11-07 06:29:42 UTC

Are you genuinely stupid?

2017-11-07 06:29:47 UTC

Aydin Paladin made an hour long video on it. I didn't even click on it. Then Bearing made another. Then Count Dankula. What else can they add? They can't.

2017-11-07 06:29:55 UTC

Ad hominem me more daddy

2017-11-07 06:30:14 UTC

Well they can't add anything if you don't pay attention

2017-11-07 06:30:22 UTC

The fire department who got a huge paycheck cut and then handed out a "inflation adjustment" which took into account fuck all when she said there's no money tree (Theresa May)
Despite pulling the money tree on to give MPs a pay rise.

See that's political.
That affects people.
I don't think those firemen cares what some edgy kid says on a uni ground.

2017-11-07 06:30:41 UTC

I'm not much for memey pwnage type channels anyway

2017-11-07 06:31:08 UTC

They will when that edgy kid torches their car

2017-11-07 06:31:25 UTC

Canada and the UK have both criminalized criticism of Islam in a continent where terror attacks are now weekly, that's not relevant?

2017-11-07 06:31:42 UTC

Discussing the real world political changes that occur as a result of intersectionalSocial justice matters. The Ass drippings of legacy media do not

2017-11-07 06:31:44 UTC

That's relevant but is largely detatched from SJWs and feminists.

2017-11-07 06:31:51 UTC

And I know that statement sounds like I'm implying Canada and the UK share a comtinent

2017-11-07 06:31:57 UTC

Legacy media is a huge issue

2017-11-07 06:32:09 UTC

There is a crisis of trust in journalism

2017-11-07 06:32:12 UTC

Obviously

2017-11-07 06:32:25 UTC

Feeding many of the problems we face today and in the future

2017-11-07 06:32:27 UTC

SJWs and Islam appalogia have the same ideological basis, intersectionality

2017-11-07 06:32:27 UTC

Legacy media is an issue when not handled properly. It's not a global issue. It's an issue in english speaking countries.

2017-11-07 06:32:29 UTC

Find me someone who *doesnt* know

2017-11-07 06:32:41 UTC

The public knows

2017-11-07 06:32:46 UTC

Itโ€™s a meme now

2017-11-07 06:32:57 UTC

Muh fake news

2017-11-07 06:32:59 UTC

By English speaking I of course mean majority english. Not Europe as a whole. England, Australia, US, Canada etc.

2017-11-07 06:33:15 UTC

The public knows less than you might think

2017-11-07 06:33:30 UTC

Iโ€™m skeptical of that assertion

2017-11-07 06:33:37 UTC

Most people still rely on a single source of news

2017-11-07 06:33:53 UTC

Most normies I've met consider MSM good enough

2017-11-07 06:33:56 UTC

You mean Boomers?

2017-11-07 06:34:17 UTC

Millenials too

2017-11-07 06:34:30 UTC

Ach... mama mia

2017-11-07 06:35:05 UTC

For instance, if you recall the recent shooting at the republican party charity baseball team practice in Alexandria, MSM initially reported the shooter used an AR15 or an M4 assault rifle, and long after people regurgitated this information even though it was factually untrue

2017-11-07 06:35:23 UTC

Hm.

2017-11-07 06:35:26 UTC

Aye

2017-11-07 06:35:26 UTC

The shooter had a Soviet era SKS

2017-11-07 06:35:48 UTC

But did it have a silencer though?

2017-11-07 06:36:06 UTC

Until there is a solid chain of trust in journalism, the media must be continually attacked

2017-11-07 06:36:06 UTC

Ironically the ban some politicians would later propose wouldn't have banned the SKS ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

2017-11-07 06:36:42 UTC

Hmm

2017-11-07 06:36:46 UTC

Fair points

2017-11-07 06:37:18 UTC

I would like to see people get more in depth in political analysis, but I recognize it takes a lot of work

2017-11-07 06:37:30 UTC

There's dozens of cases like this, the media makes the narrative

2017-11-07 06:37:34 UTC

Itโ€™s not just that

2017-11-07 06:37:41 UTC

Itโ€™s the duplicity

2017-11-07 06:37:42 UTC

Outside MSM leftists still have really strong corporate "new" factions that are hugely impactful

2017-11-07 06:37:49 UTC

There is no alternative for normies they simply do not care enough to fact check their news

2017-11-07 06:37:57 UTC

Indeed

2017-11-07 06:38:06 UTC

Laziness is degenerate

2017-11-07 06:38:29 UTC

most people out in aus havent heard of antifa unless its through some shit like vice or the guardian, in which case "good on em"

2017-11-07 06:38:37 UTC

For instance CNN has reported Sam Hyde to have conducted his fifth mass shooting

2017-11-07 06:38:39 UTC

loool

2017-11-07 06:39:01 UTC

They didn't even bother googling him.

2017-11-07 06:39:48 UTC

Hmm

2017-11-07 06:39:56 UTC

They could have said it was hulk Hogan and probably get away with it

2017-11-07 06:40:16 UTC

It's so incredibly lazy

2017-11-07 06:40:27 UTC

Whatโ€™s the primary motivation to Donaldo Trumpoโ€™s voter population?

2017-11-07 06:40:46 UTC

This is why everything think Trump literally runs the KKK, they only get their news from one source

2017-11-07 06:41:08 UTC

Great Golden Man, within the house of white

2017-11-07 06:41:11 UTC

saw an article spouting tim pool as the leader of antifa, and Big Man Tyrone as the leader of kekistan an "alt right haven"

2017-11-07 06:41:16 UTC

Trump is a reaction to the corporate oligarchy that makes up "the establishment"

2017-11-07 06:41:30 UTC

Yes

2017-11-07 06:41:33 UTC

This is why they hate him so much

2017-11-07 06:42:00 UTC

the power of the narrative to completely disintegrate any form of real journalism is insane

2017-11-07 06:42:31 UTC

If he can get the 13th amendment fixed we have a serious chance of making this country great

2017-11-07 06:42:55 UTC

Eliminating corporate personhood

2017-11-07 06:43:08 UTC

This and double this

2017-11-07 06:43:13 UTC

Fuck corporatism

2017-11-07 06:43:28 UTC

It's not capitalism it's oligarchy

2017-11-07 06:43:33 UTC

Yes yes

2017-11-07 06:44:21 UTC

Look at us

2017-11-07 06:44:30 UTC

Agreeing and shit.

2017-11-07 06:44:54 UTC

What a bunch of fucking fags we are; being cordial and friendly

2017-11-07 06:45:16 UTC

is it in motion? sorry outsider to the US, havent heard about this before

2017-11-07 06:45:17 UTC

We need more shit flinging

2017-11-07 06:45:24 UTC

Obama did 9/11

2017-11-07 06:45:24 UTC

Fuck you

2017-11-07 06:45:39 UTC

Gas the kikes race war now

2017-11-07 06:45:47 UTC

Cantaloupe

2017-11-07 06:45:50 UTC

Eat a burrito you fat hispanic

2017-11-07 06:46:01 UTC

Si senor

2017-11-07 06:46:35 UTC

@goustermix Maybe. Trumpโ€™s hand picking Supreme Court Judges

2017-11-07 06:46:39 UTC

@BrianBoru The most recent paradise papers was leaked through "legacy media". Food for thought (German, mind you)

2017-11-07 06:46:47 UTC

???

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