https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gv4Abt3sZU

I think John Cleese pissed off alot of libdems by voting leave

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637610/John-Cleese-backs-Brexit-suggests-way-reforming-EU-KILL-European-Commission-President-Jean-Claude-Juncker.html

Great man John Cleese absulutly liberalism, and a funny comeadain

I am anti-EU, anti- Islam (not anit muslims , different thing) , Pro Own culture Anti Imigration

```Always stand up for your beliefs, because sometimes-``` someone else will stand up for theirs, and their beliefs might be batshit insane. But they'll be the one the pollies listen to, because they're the only ones making any noise

<:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

(aniti immigration in the way we know it now in Belgium and Europe not far right wing ideolgy to be clear on that )

ayy

Well go for it Crypto

@Crypto MJM
Yeah, that's the far right party, i saw something about it

Guess a short documentary in French

the problem with third parties is becuase they lose (in a FPTP system) no one votes for them which sticks them in a cycle

the times third parties have sucseeded is when they have a dedicated grass roots

The thing is, this party seems to be tainted

yeah.

skimming through it now

ukip is as about as untained as you can get wile not being part of the establishment

So, unless you are actually far right or want to be labeled as far right

But I belgium they call it far right because it is the most right party we have. But are centrum right wing party is a wolf in sheepskin. They make mean tweets , yell loud but if you see what they did in the last 8 years they done nothing what they said

If it’s like NMR it’s not even worth it

for the most part I think UKIP has avoided being labled fascist

Just join a moderate party

I guess it will be much better

agreed

moderate parties are against free speech

And easier to convince people

Just go for some anti-mig party lmao

mm. If you're young, focus on getting experience and your feet wet first

All moderate parties in Belgium are toxic , socialistic and corrupt as hell

things can change very quickly in politics

And you wouldn't want to go on to have success in the political realm, influencing people to your beliefs, and be on the verge of creating significant change in your country

Only for someone to dredge up something like "X used to be a member of the Y party!"

I say this as a massive poltics nerd, UKIP is in the perfect possition to be hollowed out and made into what ever you wanted it to be

you just need grass roots effort

I am 30 years so not that young. But I am not really afraid of being called far right because everybody who dares to go against EU is called far right

also you don't neceserly need to win to infleunce you just need to be winning enougth to threaten the major parties to force them to change (to re gain your voters)

Yeah, that's not exactly a good thing

As i said, it's a tainted party, other parties ignore this one

If you want to get something done

Join other party

Also depends on your voting system

The far right thing ? I know but how long will this stigma hold back the majority for voting for this party

also the UK might be about to get rid of the house of Lords, which would be replced with a more represetive elected body, this would allow for more populist frinch parties greater ability to win

a labour MP Frank Fields (one of the few non leftists ones) has submited a bill to give us a senate.

@Crypto MJM
The party leader was condemned in 2004 for racism, it won't go away anytime soon

Things are pretty bad in Belgium Highest tax rate in Europe, lowest pension funds

normaly it wouldn't sucseed but with the frustration of brexit and labour being far left, I could see it getting the votes.

I have a strong suspicion that if this party started to gain momentum that they would fracture, due to half their party wanting to 'rehab' the image and the other half wanting to 'stay true' to the pary's founding roots

Pretty sure Jobbik over in Hungary are already doing that

Jobbik is weird though

it's not like a normal populist party

it's allways had wierd race views like pro turk pro islam

it's so anti liberal it's pro islam

@Fulcrum010 I understand what you mean, but I think that was Filip de winter , Now the party has a new front and leader Tom Van Grieken

Senate institution is overrated

@Reaps The NVA is the biggets party at the moment in Belgium but they have most of their votes from Vlaams Belang and after they got the chance to proof them selves they didn't deliver, contrary they did everything they said they wouldn't.

literally, Senate is an offspring of the lords chamber

Welcome to the world of politics 👌

Their is even some kind of unwritten rule between parties trying to silence the party and will try to form all sorts of coalitions to exclude them taking office

yes it is my point was rather the senate is not likly to be FPTP it is likly to be STV /AV or MMR

Did they, too, run on a populist platform?

Because it's a problem I often see with populist parties; populism itself is often short-term and subject to change almost impulsively, which makes it particularly difficult to forge clear working principles and policy around

To take things to their extreme examples, there are plenty of cases where someone uses the state to take things away from their citizens, whilst continuing to yammer on about 'the people'

I might look into it more later, but colour me skeptical for the time being

Interesting discussion nonetheless

populism is gay

They are the party predicting all the problems we know anno 2018 and they are warning us for over 15 years now. The problems we have of radicalisation in big parts of Brussels was predicted by this party. We also have a divided country with 50% speaking French and 50% speaking dutch . But the dutch part needs to support the french part , where it is mostly socialists in power so it is a huge money pit we have overthere

Populism is the way of the world. It can be a good thing or a bad one.

National Populist Party of Germany. Lets do this

Time for a fourth reich

My bad fifth

Cause merkel and the EU is teh fourth

Merkel Is the Destroyer of nations

we should unite and start a European Libertarian party , there are probally people from all over active overhere and mostly they are better at understanding ideologies and debating them

There is already a 4th Reich, lead by Merkel. It's call the EU

Also National Socialist Worker's Party is what your thinking~

Merkel the liar

EU Members I have help coming, but it comes at a cost. He will be constantly moving though.

More like (((khajit)))

google said khajiit

fuck you google

But still.

you mean (((gooogle)))

.... touche

Good lord. All of this guy's videos are fucking great, especially this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGgnaJvFbGw

huh, never seen this guy before

yeah I just found him yesterday and I already watched like 10 of his videos

I see so many people in these kinds of videos who just seem to be saying what they think they need to say. like their heart isn't completely in it. It shows you how much power the PC culture has over people

Like a crown of thorns

They're just happy to be part of something.

lol

I don't know why I find that so funny

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

we all laugh at weird shit @Deleted User

tru dat

yeah man and it seems all these channels are either in California in the bay area or New York.

or LA

This channel is, Fleccas, Nuance Bro, 1791L did one of these on the street interviews and they're Cali.

In that video, the dude has a moment laying on the ground talking about "how the fuck do people ***believe*** all this stuff?" and that captures the feeling I get so well

which one?

it's does start to get scary when it's everyone you know

the one I posted, scroll up

ah ok

got a timestamp for when he's laying on the ground @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] ?

15:03

yeah

I was gonna type that

but the part when he interviews the black kids

🤣

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]

"My woman's at home watching dis"

"I need tiddies with my vagina"

yeah lol and the guy talking about , hey if they make artificial vaginas better than real vaginas I might have to try it

and they put drugs in there XD

XD

ANY TEXTURE YOU WANT

TEMPERATURE AND MOISTURE CONTROLS

I'm gunna have so much fun!

That’s quite <:sad:382980750347206666> broo

yup they fixate on Trump

no need to fix the UK

TDS

Bring in ice cream. Two scoops, of course.

This is why someone needs to send me a MAGA hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKhJ6ise6oU

<:covfefe:440543908846632980> Sometimes I think I'm the only Trump supporter in the City

but I guess I'm the only one that's vocal about it

American politics is much sexier than British politics.

Our politicians have managed to quite efficiently make talking about UK politics the most mundane and miserable thing possible, so it's much harder to get motivated.

I can get motivated to stop the commie from turning our country into Venezuela

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44516123

Yay taxes!

Question : Would you step out of the shadows and join a political party in a year of election to put your name on their list ? If you are not a public person. (My situation ===> I was asked and elections are in october 2018...)

Next general election in UK is, 2022 at the latest most political parties require you be a member for at least 6 months to stand the next election for local stuff is not far away

Plus the gov could collapse causing an early election

I have a connected guy, he says we might have an election this year.

I said no non non no

but his reasoning is sound

and no I will not join any political party in the UK

cus they are all shite

I don't see may calling another early election

But the gov could collapse any day now

(I'm a massive political nerd with connections to both labour and tory campaigns branches nether are ready for an election )

so it's a no

GOOD

cus I don't want that fight

<:covfefe:440543908846632980>

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44500150

I'm busy trying to destroy German Hillary <:covfefe:440543908846632980>

IF a can put an Orange Man in a White House. What will I do to a grey haired Commie in my own country?

I have a big list of why Merkel is responsible for everything wrong with Europe from diesel cars to migration I'll be so glad if she goes and the cdu goes back to normal

^^

Like it's a 50 item list

Just vote her out. How did she get re-elected?

I mean really?

Cause she is in charge of the Conservative party

Although afd making gains

The two socalist parties are feminist and the far left is maoism lennism

Basically:

We got green, left, cdu, spd, afd, fdp

the green lost their way and barely care about the environment anymore in favor of feminism

the left is getting seriously out of hand since gysi went

The fdp is the most sensible party but they changed their course a bit too late so most people still see the AFD as the protest party though the fdp definitely is the better candidate for it

AFD 👌🏿

the AFD went through multiple coups of increasing severity first petry couping lucke and then gauland couping petry which makes them somewhat unstable and the radical elements are taking over

The SPD is full of lobbyists and they try to hide it behind social justice, basically the Democrats

anything to de-seat that unfuckable lard-ass

so the CDU is all that's left and despite Merkel fucking everything up she's still fairly popular compared to her competition

if the liberalist cause would rally behind a party it would definitely be the fdp and not the afd

unless you're fiercely American and think welfare is communism in which case the afd is the party for you

whatever is right for Germany

but Merkel needs to go

^^

Lindner please

he backed the CSU in pressuring the CDU just two days ago to make them limit the no border madness

We did it in Italy, who says we can't do it in Germany?

^^^^^^

italy had such a huge populist uprising

oof

I don't think we can do that in Germany

you like that shit?

my ex hates me now

"you did this" - in Italian

The League and 5 Star

👌🏿

lega nord is just ♥

(she doesn't hate me)

5 star I'm uncertain about

they have a lot of 'vaccines cause autism' people in high ranks

I worry about the league

5 star I can handle

It''s gonna be interesting and I have a woman on the ground

@Ruggwain latest german crime report 2017 about foreign suspects and their prevalences by nationality, religion, IQ, region and GDP
2 of 14 sets: violent crime

yet only in german. every day a new set
https://twitter.com/derhorus_x/status/1008608880014880768

well let me put my German hat on

NICE

good guy congo

no u

Since you are our resident german I wanted to link this to you @Ruggwain

Can someone that speaks German

(((German)))

^^^

can someone that speaks German do what?

translate

read these stats

it's on you bruh

```Violent criminality 2017
World map of foreigners by criminality rate

Sources:
BKA Police Criminal Statistic
DeStatis(2018)

Legend:
Rate of criminals(TVR) = criminal suspects * 100.000/Residents of the same nationality
Colourscale: Green < 2 * German TVR, Red < 4 * German TVR
```

@franti @Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 done

🤔

tldr red means run away when you see someone of that country green means you can probably tell them to watch your wallet for a bit

Who would have thunked Omanis stand so far above their peers

I ask the question again with the extra info that I am not in the UK but in Belgium.
Question : Would you step out of the shadows and join a political party in a year of election to put your name on their list ? If you are not a public person. (My situation ===> I was asked and elections are in october 2018...)

some new content from Slightly Offensive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wsrok1kh0U

http://imgur.com/1W33d2v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcoLZU6PfIk&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=laqtq-gA5bUOs4Bj-6

Yes he is

@franti
I'm talking to him, it don't seems trustworthy tbh

@Fulcrum010 to whom?

(((BEN SHAPIRO)))

Complete manlet

But actually though he's not too bad, I just find his attitude infuriating despite the fact that I agree with him on most topics.

@franti
The guy who released this

ok

I mean, he seems to have made this whole thing by himself, but the IQ part and his answer to it was.... weird

fucking hell

people on MSNBC quoting the bible

whilst arguing immigration policy

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

........

This timeline went bananas

@Fulcrum010 Deport Jesus

I will force God to obey mans laws

First secular republic mate

Fuck yeah

oh good

Ben is calling out that Lt General who made the Auschwitz comparison

It's real?

@Reaps msnbc has done stupider things

wait

no

really?

*really* really?

Nope

I don't believe it

@Ruggwain I've seen the nonsense pumped out by MSNBC for nearly 15 years now, so it doesn't necessarily surprise me as perhaps just make me laugh in incredulity

🤣

you better believe

`k i c k V e e`

@Ruggwain This is from a parody video

sure?

poe's law is strong these days

could have sworn someone photographed this off of tv