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I hope we have done enough

2018-05-20 19:52:40 UTC

Not soon enough

but I wasn't dumb enough to say

2018-05-20 19:53:25 UTC

Heโ€™s still alive

I wanted Florida to flip

2018-05-20 20:01:12 UTC

Daddy's back

2018-05-20 21:41:16 UTC

Hmmmm

2018-05-21 01:55:46 UTC

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/05/viktor-orban-successfully-removes-soross-open-society-foundations-from-hungary/ I hope Trump does the same in America. Letโ€™s keep our fingers crossed for that.

2018-05-21 09:32:36 UTC

The new look of white identity politics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xP9TjNj9C8

2018-05-21 09:34:37 UTC

6:40 is where it starts to get really icky.

2018-05-21 09:35:54 UTC

She makes the argument that whites are the most virtuous and says that she prefers identity groups stay apart.

2018-05-21 09:37:55 UTC

I thinkher notion of seperation as a way to remedy race relations, by disassociation from 'the scourge of the oppresssed', is misguided.

2018-05-21 09:38:15 UTC

Surprised about that like/dislike ratio.

2018-05-21 09:56:45 UTC

The more diverse America gets, the further into the toilet it goes... and at this point, flush it down."

Except simply saying "America is in the toilet" isn't at all charitable, it's actually wrong.

2018-05-21 09:57:07 UTC

Syria is in the toilet, that's a bit more fair to say.

2018-05-21 09:57:17 UTC

Venezuela is in the shitter.

2018-05-21 09:57:31 UTC

I think the premise that race is the major factor in division and unrest in the US is false, even though I think she has a point about the government forcing people together through quotas etc. I don't think dividing the US into different racial zones will solve anything, in fact it will probably makes things worse unless the underlying problems such as the welfare state and breakdown of family/community are resolved first. But even if it worked, I wouldn't want to be excluded from being able to move to a different area of the country. Luckily, these kinds of people aren't getting anywhere.

2018-05-21 09:57:45 UTC

^ very good first point

2018-05-21 09:58:18 UTC

Haidt wrote an essay talking about how race is a much less common reason for someone to be prejudiced than politics.

2018-05-21 10:00:13 UTC

But also, like I said this video has a near 100% like/dislike ratio which means either it's being seen by a very select bubble because of youtube algorithms or the opinion that races should self-segregate is surprisingly popular.

2018-05-21 10:00:45 UTC

What's tricky too is that she *is* right about a lot of things.

2018-05-21 10:01:04 UTC

It's really her conclusions on what to do about it that I take serious issue with.

2018-05-21 10:09:42 UTC

I think that people who see race as the big issue are more likely to think in terms of segregation, but I think that is a small group at the moment, even though I do think it has been growing due to certain people stoking the flames. hopefully it will die down eventually. And I think your last point sums up my feeling as well, and I think it's true of most identitarians. They see a certain problem, attribute it entirely to the "other", and come up with solutions that would divorce themselves from the perceived problem group.

2018-05-21 10:12:25 UTC

There may be some truth to it though, especially in terms of Islam, but that is a cultural divide, not necessarily racial.

2018-05-21 10:15:04 UTC

the idea that if we had only white people then the problems would just go away, is pretty naive.

2018-05-21 10:16:48 UTC

sorry to break it to anyone who thinks otherwise, but segments of the white population are just as fucked up as any other group, and that has more to do with culture than anything else.

2018-05-21 11:54:33 UTC

Got called a Eurocentrist for using the Term Middle East

2018-05-21 11:54:54 UTC

lol

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wtf are supposed to call it then? DurkaDurkaLand?

2018-05-21 15:30:32 UTC

why is her face so weird in the thumbnail?

2018-05-21 15:31:28 UTC

*r a c i a l s u p e r i o r i t y*

any money she's had a nosejob

2018-05-21 15:32:05 UTC

so she got a nosejob in order to make her head look pear-shaped and her eyes so close to one another she might as well be a cyclops?

and she's cross eyed

but I'm on the bench cus I didn't guess Opinionated European is Trans

2018-05-21 15:36:40 UTC

Bre facheux Is out

2018-05-21 15:36:51 UTC

Do, they had to call someone else

2018-05-21 16:34:42 UTC

Did yall hear how elated the president of Uzbekistan is to be establising trade deals with Trump?The *w i n n i n g* has been piling on as of late, and this one really interests me. Gets me wondering more about the Uzbeks and if they like Trump as much as their leader.

2018-05-21 16:38:31 UTC

Shavkat Mirziyoyev is pretty excited to get his hands on American military tech.

2018-05-21 16:38:55 UTC

I recommend 1.5x speed

2018-05-21 16:40:18 UTC

*hmmmm*.

2018-05-21 16:40:51 UTC

Is this the same psychopath who has some sort of grandiose structure constructed to celebrate their nation's lack of interest in taking sides in anything?

2018-05-21 16:41:40 UTC

Maybe that was Turkmenistan

2018-05-21 16:42:05 UTC

What does it look like?

2018-05-21 16:44:52 UTC

They got this crazy lookin thing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448164284984459295/cosmonauts.jpg

2018-05-21 16:45:36 UTC

Still looking

2018-05-21 16:45:42 UTC

Central Asia is a very surreal place

2018-05-21 16:45:49 UTC

Because it looks like the middle of fucking nowhere

2018-05-21 16:47:42 UTC

But you get stuff like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448164997135335434/Palace_of_Arts_Shabyt.jpg

2018-05-21 16:47:51 UTC

and this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448165038922924032/Astana_capital_of_Kazakhstan_01.jpg

2018-05-21 16:48:28 UTC

One of the 'Stans in particular had a leader who was obsessed with Cult of Personality

2018-05-21 16:49:34 UTC

Oh, hello, largest operational space launch facility in the world, that's *also* in the middle of fucking nowhere

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448165469380280330/Soyuz_expedition_19_launch_pad.jpg

Empire of Dust but not in Africa

2018-05-21 16:58:10 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448167633603395604/4-4.jpg

2018-05-21 16:58:48 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448167792601202689/wertwert.jpg

2018-05-21 16:59:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448167942954287105/cvbnn.jpg

2018-05-21 16:59:24 UTC

These ones in particular look like they're straight ouf of a 1930s Soviet sketchbook (or Fallout *or* Game of Thrones, for that matter):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448167943457734657/fghjjj.jpg

2018-05-21 16:59:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448167948650020864/wertwertwert.jpg

2018-05-21 17:00:36 UTC

```Niyazov banned the use of lip syncing at public concerts in 2005 as well as sound recordings at "musical performances on state holidays, in broadcasts by Turkmen television channels, at all cultural events organized by the state... in places of mass assembly and at weddings and celebrations organised by the public," citing a negative effect on the development of musical arts incurred by the use of recorded music.

Niyazov banished dogs from the capital Ashgabat because of their "unappealing odour."

According to the Ashgabat correspondent of Turkmenistan.ru, right-hand-drive imported cars converted to left-hand-drive were banned due to a perceived increased risk in accidents.

Niyazov requested that a "palace of ice", or indoor ice skating rink, be built near the capital, so that those living in the desert country could learn to skate. The rink was built in 2008 and is located near the new Turkmen State Medical University.

After having to quit smoking in 1997 due to his resultant heart surgery, he banned smoking in all public places and ordered all government employees to follow suit. Chewing tobacco on Turkmen soil was later banned as well.

He outlawed opera, ballet and circuses in 2001 for being "decidedly unturkmen-like".

In February 2004, he decreed that men should no longer wear long hair or beards.

He banned news reporters and anchors from wearing make-up on television, because he said he found it difficult to distinguish male anchors from female anchors.

Gold teeth were discouraged in Turkmenistan after Niyazov suggested that the populace chew on bones to strengthen their teeth and lessen the rate at which they fall out```

2018-05-21 17:06:29 UTC

interesting fellow

2018-05-21 17:13:04 UTC

```The agreement included 17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate and a destroyer, which were sold to a Swedish company for scrap recycling. Those 17 submarines made Pepsi become, for a few days, the 6th largest military power in the world by number of diesel submarines. The president of Pepsi, Donald Kendall, told the National Security Adviser of USA: "We are disarming the USSR faster than you".```

Bringing the Spice <:covfefe:440543908846632980>

A nice hot cup of Spicey Covfefe

How many elections do we have to flip Right for you to Listen ANGELA

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This guys a Child and he runs Austria now

2018-05-21 19:21:34 UTC

radical faggotry

2018-05-22 01:24:37 UTC

I think i found the dumbest person ever

2018-05-22 01:24:59 UTC

he thinks the Middle East does not exist and that the area should be called South West Asia

2018-05-22 01:25:45 UTC

I showed him that it also includes non Asian countries and he calls me a supporter of Eurocentric views and a Evil racist European Imperialist

2018-05-22 01:57:19 UTC

Call it Goatfucking Land.

2018-05-22 02:11:15 UTC

Iโ€™d rather call it the Future Glass Sea

2018-05-22 02:13:48 UTC

^

2018-05-22 02:17:01 UTC

I call it the land that once was more important, powerful, and technology advance then Europe. Now i see a land of tribal warfare, terrorism, sectarian Violence, Racism, genocide, and corruption.

2018-05-22 02:29:52 UTC

Except "golden age of Islam" is a myth.

2018-05-22 02:29:56 UTC

Nope

2018-05-22 02:29:58 UTC

it's not

2018-05-22 02:30:29 UTC

It is.

2018-05-22 02:33:58 UTC

Yep, that's pretty accurate.

2018-05-22 02:35:00 UTC

I don't even know if Islam ever had a golden age to begin with.

2018-05-22 02:35:23 UTC

Still you have the House of Wisdom, the preservation of the works of Aristotle and Plato, the development of most of modern math.

2018-05-22 02:35:35 UTC

They destroyed 90% of the culture they conquered.

2018-05-22 02:35:58 UTC

Can you imagine what would have been preserved had Islam **not** invaded and destroyed 90% of greek culture?

2018-05-22 02:36:11 UTC

they were still also technologically more advance then the Europeans until about the European Renaissance

2018-05-22 02:36:16 UTC

And most of modern math has definitely not been developed by Islam.

2018-05-22 02:37:00 UTC

@DanielKO Most of our Greek literature was preserved through the House of Wisdom

2018-05-22 02:37:18 UTC

i am not saying Islam was this great savior

2018-05-22 02:37:47 UTC

It's funny to be labeled as "preserver" when they're the ones invading the land and destroying most of it.

2018-05-22 02:37:57 UTC

I mean of course

2018-05-22 02:38:02 UTC

they are a Empire

2018-05-22 02:38:06 UTC

Empires conquer

2018-05-22 02:38:18 UTC

"We didn't burn ALL of the books, you can thank us later."

2018-05-22 02:38:54 UTC

That is *somewhat* true, but not entirely

2018-05-22 02:39:00 UTC

you guys badmouthing Islam in here?

2018-05-22 02:40:12 UTC

I just talking about how the Islamic Empire was more advance technologically then the Europeans until the the European Reissuance.

2018-05-22 02:40:23 UTC

If anything they preserved the knowledge from those civilizations. But that's about it.

2018-05-22 02:40:33 UTC

pretty much

2018-05-22 02:40:50 UTC

again they were not perfect though

2018-05-22 02:40:57 UTC

they were pretty cruel to the jews

2018-05-22 02:40:58 UTC

```
By the way, the rest of the doctrine found from the greeks and the romans, was in the Byzantine Empire, and it finally really got into Europe... why? Well... the Muslims crushed Constantinople, and the scholars had to flee.```

2018-05-22 02:41:17 UTC

Plus they invented Algebra, but I don't know how it compares to what other civilizations contributed to Math and Science.

2018-05-22 02:41:35 UTC

Algebra is pretty important

2018-05-22 02:42:02 UTC

Greeks could do far more advanced problems without algebra.

2018-05-22 02:42:09 UTC

@DanielKO The Whole thing with the Byzantine Empire is a complicated mess.

2018-05-22 02:42:37 UTC

Also dont down play Algebra

2018-05-22 02:42:43 UTC

its pretty important

2018-05-22 02:43:05 UTC

And 0.

2018-05-22 02:43:23 UTC

```
One of the things that came out of the "Golden Age" was the philosophy "there is no cause and effect, and there are no natural laws."```

2018-05-22 02:43:35 UTC

LOL

2018-05-22 02:43:40 UTC

lol

2018-05-22 02:43:42 UTC

Algebra started in Babylon and Egypt.

2018-05-22 02:44:02 UTC

Their is also the Canon book of Medicine

2018-05-22 02:44:28 UTC

which to be fair was a combination of what greek, muslim, and indian scholars wrote

2018-05-22 02:44:48 UTC

Let's just say they were good at dissecting humans, I'll give them that.

2018-05-22 02:44:56 UTC

They were really advanced with medicine fit some reason

2018-05-22 02:45:18 UTC

they had alot of stuff from Ionian greeks they used

2018-05-22 02:45:30 UTC

thats how they have alot of Greek stuff mixed in with them

2018-05-22 02:46:13 UTC

Basically the Chinese and Muslims were more powerful then the Europeans until the 1500s

2018-05-22 02:56:31 UTC

> Can you imagine what would have been preserved had Islam not invaded and destroyed 90% of greek culture?

Well it's not 100% their fault. The Mongols had something to do with the libraries of Bagdhad

2018-05-22 07:50:15 UTC

Nah

2018-05-22 09:25:28 UTC

It was a rhetorical question. Of course theyโ€™re not a credible source anymore. Remember when it wasnโ€™t filled with SJW bullshit?

2018-05-22 09:27:03 UTC

Yeah but that was ages ago

Jacob is very good on holding his own reguarding the Catholic Religion

2018-05-22 15:12:03 UTC

I bet

but in a Liberal Democracy it's supposed to be all good

I'm Catholic my missus was Hindu

I've dated Orthodox Christians, Buddists, ex Muslims

2018-05-22 16:54:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448529054899896341/image.jpg

2018-05-22 16:54:21 UTC

This is is the back of my sisters computer, someone kill me please. <:think_hang:378717098903470080>

2018-05-22 16:55:49 UTC

Wheh she is single, tell me

2018-05-22 16:55:53 UTC

I'm going to red pill her

2018-05-22 16:56:06 UTC

nah, she dating

2018-05-22 16:56:22 UTC

I know, a latino guy

2018-05-22 16:56:24 UTC

oh I see what you said

2018-05-22 16:56:27 UTC

misread that

2018-05-22 16:56:30 UTC

suppository?

2018-05-22 16:56:38 UTC

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2018-05-22 16:56:44 UTC

Also, she can learn a lot by hanging around this discord

2018-05-22 17:05:51 UTC

We've all been cringe in our teenager years.

2018-05-22 17:06:12 UTC

She'll grow out of it.

2018-05-22 17:10:58 UTC

Question: how does the value of your property "deteriorate" if minorities come in?

2018-05-22 17:13:37 UTC

probably has to do with crime or something

2018-05-22 17:14:27 UTC

And neighbors not maintaining their homes, leaving everything dirty, smelly.

2018-05-22 17:14:36 UTC

yup

2018-05-22 17:15:24 UTC

"White flight eventually becomes more likely in middle-class neighborhoods when the presence of Hispanics and Asians exceeds 25 percent and 21 percent, respectively," Uhh, Asians and Hispanics don't have a high crime rate like African Americans

2018-05-22 17:15:24 UTC

And it doesnt even necessarily have to be true, it is just the perception that people have of minorities and that is enough to make people want to move

2018-05-22 17:16:18 UTC

like i said above it probably has more to do with peoples perceptions

2018-05-22 17:17:57 UTC

And nothing's wrong with that. You can't stop people from moving out of places if they wish to move out.

2018-05-22 17:18:06 UTC

yup

2018-05-22 17:19:35 UTC

yes, but this sort of behavior interferes with discrimination laws. I actually spoke about this with someone

2018-05-22 17:20:03 UTC

lol idk

2018-05-22 17:20:41 UTC

he says he doesn't get along with blacks and wants to move, that's cool, but he also says that if a black moves into his neighborhood than they can be denied certain things

2018-05-22 17:20:47 UTC

"One of my neighbors' house smells of weed all the time, the other hasn't maintained his lawn in 3 years, the other has 12+ people living in his house. I guess I'll move out."

2018-05-22 17:21:14 UTC

his exact words were that black people are jealous of his skin colour

2018-05-22 17:21:24 UTC

so?

2018-05-22 17:21:41 UTC

maybe they are

2018-05-22 17:21:51 UTC

I doubt it.

2018-05-22 17:22:13 UTC

there is dark skinned light skinned thing in the black community

2018-05-22 17:23:20 UTC

anyway, besides the race thing, I think there are class reasons for it too

2018-05-22 17:24:11 UTC

lets say government assistance gets lower class people into a middle class neighborhood

2018-05-22 17:24:40 UTC

now there is another level of difference there, which might be a greater contributor

2018-05-22 17:25:06 UTC

because lower class people I think tend to bring in crime

2018-05-22 17:25:22 UTC

Are poor people entitled to have rich neighbors? Or to local businesses?

2018-05-22 17:25:27 UTC

no

2018-05-22 17:26:47 UTC

@DanielKO She's 23.

2018-05-22 17:27:00 UTC

If I'm raising a family, I'd prefer to live near other families of similarly aged kids, similar income bracket and education level.

2018-05-22 17:27:35 UTC

think about it, if a bunch of redneck hillbillys moved into your neighborhood and didnt mow their yard and left junk cars in their driveway, you would want to move out
And no one wants to live there, so property values go down

2018-05-22 17:27:52 UTC

@meratrix better late than never.

2018-05-22 17:28:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/448537759561416704/The_Beverly_Hillbillies.jpg

2018-05-22 17:29:05 UTC

live where you want, I'm just saying that when "White Flight" was a thing minorities would get discriminated against. "In the United States, Redlining is the systematic denial of various services to residents of specific, often racially associated, neighborhoods or communities, either directly or through the selective raising of prices. While the best known examples of redlining have involved denial of financial services such as banking or insurance,[2] other services such as health care[3] or even supermarkets[4] have been denied to residents."

2018-05-22 17:30:17 UTC

@Deleted User And If white people move in, its called gentryfication
So no matter what whites do, they get blamed

2018-05-22 17:30:55 UTC

unfortunately

2018-05-22 17:32:10 UTC

"Gentrification is a process of renovation of deteriorated urban neighborhoods by means of the influx of more affluent residents."

2018-05-22 17:32:18 UTC

I actually dont see how its a bad thing...

2018-05-22 17:32:48 UTC

Blacks are poor

2018-05-22 17:32:54 UTC

Cant afford rent

2018-05-22 17:32:59 UTC

Have to leave

2018-05-22 17:33:46 UTC

then move, the neighborhood shouldn't stay shitty

2018-05-22 17:33:54 UTC

Ask San Francisco, locals have been demanding tech companies engineers to move out.

2018-05-22 17:34:16 UTC

Because poor people can't afford to live there anymore.

@Deleted User There is a reason we Love you

2018-05-22 17:37:43 UTC

My take on this is: if white people moving out turns your neighborhood to shit, maybe the whiteys were the ones keeping it nice. They don't owe a nice neighborhood to anyone. That said, government shouldn't deny services, and I believe that's illegal.

Again we turn to Empire of Dust

2018-05-22 17:39:11 UTC

at some point you have to separate market forces from perceived racism. people try to do what is in their best interest, and if enough people do that trends will emerge, and then you can look at those trends later and come up with all sorts of ideas as to what the motivation behind it was. but at the end of the day, it's just people trying to improve their lives.

2018-05-22 17:40:20 UTC

If you see things only in a racial lense, you will see racism where there isnt any

2018-05-22 17:40:33 UTC

exactly

2018-05-22 17:41:40 UTC

I actually don't understand the issue with Gentrification though, I probably don't know too much about it, but from the Wikipedia article, it sounds like the shitty neighborhoods are improving when "whities" move in.

Imagine Broo and Kaden watching Empire of Dust together

2018-05-22 17:42:34 UTC

As for business leaving when demographics change, could simply be the new locals spend less money on the business. Maybe they have less money, or different culture. Gotta raise prices to stay afloat, or move shop.

2018-05-22 17:43:11 UTC

The second thing is, who wants to own a shop in crime infested part of town?

2018-05-22 17:43:23 UTC

White Flash is different btwfrom gentrification lol @franti

2018-05-22 17:43:46 UTC

It's not as simple as "I'm gonna screw those niggers, jack my prices up do they can't afford it."

2018-05-22 17:44:28 UTC

"white flash"

2018-05-22 17:44:30 UTC

<:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-05-22 17:45:21 UTC

But The Flash has always been white... Or did DC reboot it again?

I don't care if you are Purple or Green

2018-05-22 17:49:15 UTC

gentrification can be bad for poorer people because making a neighborhood "nice" drives up prices because people want to move there. also more expensive shops will move in to cater to the richer people.

2018-05-22 17:51:24 UTC

racism is just an excuse for commies to shit on capitalism

In the Uk we call it Keeping up Appearances

in the USA it's more White picket fences

2018-05-22 17:53:05 UTC

lol, we have that show on PBS

2018-05-22 19:50:53 UTC

@Fulcrum010 redpill her, with your dick

2018-05-22 19:53:05 UTC

Hahahahahaha

2018-05-22 19:53:09 UTC

That would be ideal

2018-05-22 19:53:24 UTC

But for real, I do believe his sister have a lot to gain by hanging around here

2018-05-22 23:30:23 UTC

You think Communists suffer from a Survivorship Bias?

2018-05-23 00:58:50 UTC

As in we have no dropped enough of them into the ocean?

2018-05-23 00:59:00 UTC

or that they have been able to swim back

2018-05-23 01:23:04 UTC

Maybe that they survived longer than their nazi brethren

2018-05-23 04:56:54 UTC

[[Citation needed]]

2018-05-23 04:59:57 UTC

One of the "sources" say that Trump had 500 twitter bots. And Hillary had at least a million bots.

2018-05-23 05:02:00 UTC

Nowhere the "7:1" figure appears in the supposed sources.

2018-05-23 05:02:14 UTC

Wikipedia is Fake News.

2018-05-23 05:21:25 UTC

"Russian agents"

2018-05-23 05:22:21 UTC

Christ, it's so dramatic

I LOVE that FAKE NEWS was invented by the Democrats

and it only took 9 days

to make it a Trump thing

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