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2018-04-09 18:52:23 UTC

I think guns would have significantly altered the logistics and efficacy of arresting all the Jews.

2018-04-09 18:52:24 UTC

How many knew they were going to die and did nothing?

2018-04-09 18:52:51 UTC

Yes, Hitler could then put more effort into locking down cities for the purges, but how much more expensive would it be?

2018-04-09 18:52:51 UTC

How many willing entered the trains?

2018-04-09 18:53:08 UTC

Hoe many watched while the SS executed them in front of them?

2018-04-09 18:53:09 UTC

The majority of the populace don't stand up and fight in either case; but when word gets around of mass killings and reprisals, that tends to have the opposite effect of making people docile; formerly cooperative citizens will do the bare minimum required of them, and only when under the supervision of the occupying forces. It's one of the many reasons German equipment got progressively worse as they were using citizens from occupied countries to build their own weapons of war, leading to numerous sabotaged weaponry rolling out of the factory and towards the front lines. Other citizens who don't 'stand up and fight' whom had family amongst the dead have a renewed reason to assist in any way they can, even if it's just relaying information to resistance fighters

2018-04-09 18:53:53 UTC

Yeah, but how many actually did that?

2018-04-09 18:54:14 UTC

It's a pretty small number, right?

2018-04-09 18:54:29 UTC

The 1938 act ("Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons") came into effect *after* Kristallnacht

2018-04-09 18:56:00 UTC

Look, who wanted to fight did, and died fighting

2018-04-09 18:56:06 UTC

There is a lot of examples of that

2018-04-09 18:56:23 UTC

what tism is going on here

2018-04-09 18:56:23 UTC

Some of then had guns? Yeah, some don't

2018-04-09 18:56:31 UTC

And they fought the same way

2018-04-09 18:56:33 UTC

This wasn't a case of Hitler waking up one day and going 'time to get rid of the gunzzzzzzzzzz'

2018-04-09 18:56:58 UTC

It was incremental over several years, dismantling the ability of his opponents to mount any effective opposition to him in *any* fashion

2018-04-09 18:57:16 UTC

I get it

2018-04-09 18:57:25 UTC

Still, people who wanted to fight

2018-04-09 18:57:27 UTC

Did it

2018-04-09 18:57:46 UTC

And people have a habit of denying the horror of what is happening, and delaying the inevitable

2018-04-09 18:57:54 UTC

Some dude with a gun shows up at your door and tells you to get on a train

2018-04-09 18:58:01 UTC

And you have no way to do anything about it

2018-04-09 18:58:03 UTC

You get on the train

2018-04-09 18:58:05 UTC

and hope for the best

2018-04-09 18:58:07 UTC

The majority of people would do it

2018-04-09 18:58:21 UTC

Reaps, the cold harsh truth is

2018-04-09 18:58:34 UTC

The majority of the world population are just followers

2018-04-09 18:58:36 UTC

Sheeps

2018-04-09 18:58:44 UTC

Or whatever you want to call them

2018-04-09 18:58:58 UTC

Most people don't have in them what it takes to stand up and fight for something

2018-04-09 18:59:19 UTC

There are some that can acquire some fighting spirit? Yeah

2018-04-09 18:59:38 UTC

Someone that saw an heroic act and decided to stand up against what's happening

2018-04-09 18:59:58 UTC

But the majority of the population, will just lower their heads and move on with their lives

2018-04-09 19:00:09 UTC

If, say, Venezuelans, had guns, would they tearing a cow to shreds to eat, or would they be on a shootout with the government?

2018-04-09 19:00:10 UTC

You do not need even close to a majority of people to resist in order to make things incredibly difficult for an opposing force

2018-04-09 19:00:21 UTC

@DanielKO
They don't have guns

2018-04-09 19:00:29 UTC

Thus the "if".

2018-04-09 19:00:30 UTC

And they are fighting the government

2018-04-09 19:01:16 UTC

Guns are not hard to acquire, it's not today and it wasn't at that time

2018-04-09 19:01:41 UTC

But they're not cheap either.

2018-04-09 19:01:44 UTC

This just comes across as a dystopian argument. Anyhoo, it's 0500 now, so if y'all want to continue this, be my guest I guess ๐Ÿคท

2018-04-09 19:01:51 UTC

Once you're already starving, it's too late to buy guns.

2018-04-09 19:01:54 UTC

Sleep well dude

2018-04-09 19:02:03 UTC

@DanielKO
LOL, it's a revolution

2018-04-09 19:02:14 UTC

There is no such thing as buying guns

2018-04-09 19:02:16 UTC

Lol

2018-04-09 19:02:38 UTC

Do they just find them lying on the ground like in PUBG?

2018-04-09 19:02:51 UTC

Funny, usually one has to get them from a weapons dealer.

2018-04-09 19:03:02 UTC

No, they kill someone with a weapon

2018-04-09 19:03:05 UTC

And get it from them

2018-04-09 19:03:14 UTC

And as the polish partisan said

2018-04-09 19:03:21 UTC

With one you get 2

2018-04-09 19:03:26 UTC

With 2 you get 4

2018-04-09 19:03:34 UTC

And you keep going

2018-04-09 19:03:56 UTC

If, say, 1% of the population has guns, because the law makes it hard to legally own one, murdering somebody with a gun to take his gun, won't increase the total number of guns.

2018-04-09 19:04:23 UTC

........

2018-04-09 19:04:51 UTC

> Catching up about AR video on Nazi Gun Control

Does the Warsaw Uprising not get taught in schools anymore?

2018-04-09 19:05:23 UTC

@Legiondude
Which video?

2018-04-09 19:06:24 UTC

Haven't seen the video Reaps posted, but just skimming through the conversation on the channel in the past hour or so

2018-04-09 19:08:04 UTC

I saw a part of that video, but I remember a German dude here saying there it won't mean much

2018-04-09 19:08:08 UTC

Because they voted for Hitler

2018-04-09 19:09:42 UTC

Did Hitler campaign with "and once I'm elected, I'll round up the Jews and kill them all"?

2018-04-09 19:10:29 UTC

People elected Trump, but a lot of his supporters were fuming when he said "we'll take the guns first, and do due process later."

2018-04-09 19:10:34 UTC

No, but he got elected, right?

2018-04-09 19:11:03 UTC

Also, how much of the German population knew about what used to happen in the concentration camps?

2018-04-09 19:11:55 UTC

Hiding shootouts with Jews could be harder to hide, specially if they had to escalate it with bringing in the military to safely overpower them.

2018-04-09 19:12:23 UTC

If the jews fought, yeah

2018-04-09 19:12:29 UTC

Which is why I said it would have changed the logistics (it would be more expensive) and optics (it would be very visible to the public.)

2018-04-09 19:12:38 UTC

But If they just went passively

2018-04-09 19:12:39 UTC

No

2018-04-09 19:12:52 UTC

The thing is

2018-04-09 19:12:52 UTC

Maybe it wouldn't have changed anything. Maybe the general population hated the Jews just as much as Hitler.

2018-04-09 19:13:03 UTC

Stop seeing what happened from 2018

2018-04-09 19:13:14 UTC

Most people didn't had an idea of what was going on

2018-04-09 19:14:57 UTC

People didn't knew they would be gassed or shot

2018-04-09 19:15:10 UTC

They Just knew they would be taken somewhere

2018-04-09 19:15:35 UTC

I think you might be assuming too much, that they didn't resist when getting arrested, because they weren't willing to. When it could just as easily be because they didn't have the means anymore.

2018-04-09 19:15:57 UTC

I think you are assuming too much

2018-04-09 19:16:12 UTC

You want to see a better example? Europe from nowadays

2018-04-09 19:16:24 UTC

People are getting shoved from left to right by the government

2018-04-09 19:16:38 UTC

How many stand up and say something about what's happening?

2018-04-09 19:18:10 UTC

They don't have the right to speak though. They already lost the means to say something.

2018-04-09 19:19:00 UTC

>The very first official concentration camp to be opened was Dachau (March 22th, 1933). The opening of this concentration camp *was not secret: an official announcement was published in several Munich newspapers in the following days*.

2018-04-09 19:20:50 UTC

@DanielKO
I said what was happening at the camp

2018-04-09 19:20:59 UTC

Not about the camps

2018-04-09 19:21:35 UTC

@DanielKO
They do have the right to speak, the government are not shutting their mouths, they can say whatever they want

2018-04-09 19:24:20 UTC

And how many said something about it? How many Just lowered their heads and moved on with their lives?

2018-04-09 22:18:34 UTC

HMMMM
๐Ÿฆ€

2018-04-09 22:51:05 UTC

I mean, he's not wrong

2018-04-09 22:54:31 UTC

yeah, he ain't

He's RIGHT. REEEEEE

He had been dividing the liberal and conservative mindset in an oversimplistic fashion.

He is absolutely sure liberalism comes from the trait of trying new stuffs.

So by nature liberals are more innovative and contribute to progress while conservatives mod these new stuffs for reliable use. So conservatives are better administrators.

I cannot emphasise more how wrong this analytics is at least on an individual level.

2018-04-10 03:29:00 UTC

He doesn't derive these from the "conservative" and "liberal" labels. If you think that, you clearly never heard him talk about it. He bases his conclusion from the Big Five Personality Types.

2018-04-10 15:48:28 UTC

```So, whatโ€™s this case even about? Trump allegedly slept with Stormy Daniels back in 2006. Then Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet, according to Cohen himself. According to Cohen, Trump knew nothing about the payment. The settlement agreement contains pseudonyms for Trump and Daniels, and was funneled through an LLC. This could make Cohenโ€™s payment to Daniels an in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign in violation of campaign finance law. Furthermore, if Trump knew about it, that could constitute criminal conspiracy to violate campaign finance law. Former Democratic presidential candidate and senator, John Edwards, was tried on precisely those grounds; a jury split on five counts and acquitted on a sixth before the DOJ decided to drop the case. ```

2018-04-10 15:48:33 UTC

```Ironically, Trump could have avoided all of this by merely paying Daniels directly.```

2018-04-10 15:50:15 UTC

interesting

2018-04-11 05:11:13 UTC

can somebody who isn't the guardian or reddit explain to me the Trump-russia connection scandal investigation thing? Haven't heard anyone who doesn't have a leftist agenda talk about it. Whats going on? Has anything substantial been found?

2018-04-11 05:15:05 UTC

It's bullshit

2018-04-11 05:15:07 UTC

There you go

2018-04-11 05:21:49 UTC

What the Ape said

2018-04-11 05:38:26 UTC

Lol i just don't get this whole paranoia over russian bots

2018-04-11 05:39:07 UTC

Like, even if they are spouting propagandistic half-truths and russian talking points, it doesn't justify banning them outright

2018-04-11 05:39:21 UTC

on principle

2018-04-11 06:01:58 UTC

Scape goats

2018-04-11 06:02:35 UTC

They are trying to find a excuse for their mistakes and lack of competence

2018-04-11 06:03:30 UTC

hmmm

2018-04-11 06:03:35 UTC

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-04-11 06:03:41 UTC

Russian press is a rogue player, both sides want them out of their sandbox.

2018-04-11 06:04:25 UTC

but... but... RT is right wing propaganda... <:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-04-11 06:04:38 UTC

/sarcasm

2018-04-11 06:06:11 UTC

makes you think

2018-04-11 06:08:10 UTC

They might be shitting on the left now, but they have no loyalty. Can't have that in America.

2018-04-11 06:10:16 UTC

dunno, whenever I've seen a political RT story, it looks like a headline the guardian would run

2018-04-11 06:10:43 UTC

not that i've studied it real intensely or anything

2018-04-11 14:06:15 UTC

https://lawfareblog.com/how-cohen-raids-and-trumps-reactions-edge-us-toward-confrontation
I will put this as bluntly as I know how: There is no way that the U.S. Attorneyโ€™s Office for the Southern District of New York would have sought or executed a search warrant against the presidentโ€™s lawyer without overpowering evidence to support the action. The legal standard for such a search requires only probable cause that criminal activity is taking place. Under normal circumstances, which these are not, the prudential and policy factors counseling against such an action would be powerful.
For starters, the Justice Department is institutionally cautious about searches involving attorneys acting in their role as attorneys. As Paul Rosenzweig noted, โ€œthe U.S. Attorneyโ€™s Manual has an entire section that limits how and when the offices of an attorney may be searched. Realizing full well that such searches are in derogation of the value of the [attorney-client] privilege, the manual requires high-level approvals, the exhaustion of other investigative avenues, and specifies procedures that are to be followed to limit the intrusion on privileged documents.โ€ Moreover, the Justice Department would have been additionally cautious about seeking any warrant against this particular lawyerโ€”precisely because doing so makes clear that a ring is closing around the president. Going after a prominent personโ€™s lawyer for matters related to his representation of the client is, after all, an aggressive act toward the client, not just toward the lawyer. And Trump is, as he puts it, a counterpuncher.

This is the kind of step that would predictably elicit a reaction. The Justice Department simply would not take such an action lightly or without evidence that emphatically supports it. Add these prudential, legal and policy factors together and they cumulatively suggest that the evidence supporting the warrant application likely exceedsโ€”probably by farโ€”what is legally required.

SO impeach Trump and let Pence fight the Syrian World War 3

Pence / Mattis 2018

2018-04-11 14:53:26 UTC

Any good?

For PJW not my favourite

2018-04-11 14:59:42 UTC

Then why did you link?

cus he made good points

2018-04-11 15:00:21 UTC

Then gib summary

do I link every video he makes?

it's legit less than 5mins

2018-04-11 15:29:09 UTC

can you explain it in 4?

2018-04-11 15:36:54 UTC

i'll think about it

for longer than 4 minutes?

2018-04-11 16:02:45 UTC

Ooo

2018-04-11 16:02:47 UTC

Paul Ryan is out?

2018-04-11 16:04:09 UTC

```7. The FBI Never Treated Hillary Clinton This Way. This is perfectly obvious. Hillary wasnโ€™t merely allowed to delete 33,000 documents from her computer server three weeks after revelations that she had a private computer server, she was protected by the DOJ and the FBI, which allowed her personal attorney, Cheryl Mills โ€” who was also under investigation โ€” to invoke attorney-client privilege to stop the FBI from investigating Hillaryโ€™s email scheme.```

2018-04-11 16:08:58 UTC

In this case, no, considering his vacancy means another person with an R next to his name fills it

2018-04-11 16:38:59 UTC

yep

2018-04-11 19:27:36 UTC

hes setting up a presedential run has to be

2018-04-11 19:30:25 UTC

he's going to get demolished

2018-04-11 19:48:02 UTC

getting out of the goverment for at least 6 years would provide enough time to cure any major issues

2018-04-11 22:15:33 UTC

lol thought I saw Paul Ryan once

2018-04-11 23:53:33 UTC

What at Culvers?

2018-04-12 03:29:16 UTC

at my church I think lol, still seems weird because I live 40 mins away from Janesville

2018-04-12 04:33:01 UTC

Really makes you wonder <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554> <:think_woke:378717098681171988>

Sargon is Centre Left, Lindsay is sitting Libertarian atm

I don't see this guys point

2018-04-12 16:26:32 UTC

lol

2018-04-12 19:33:44 UTC

http://www.liberalists.uk/map/
Haven't checked this in a while

2018-04-12 19:34:43 UTC

Labor still batting 100% though <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-04-12 19:35:05 UTC

<:think_hitlerdidnothingwrong:378717099952177162>

2018-04-12 19:37:49 UTC

```Reply from Amnesty International
Dear Paul,

Thank you for your email.

The right to freedom of opinion and expression should be one of the cornerstones of any society. This right includes "the freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media, regardless of frontiers" (Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 19). For more than forty years, Amnesty International (AI) has defended this right against attempts by governments across the globe to stifle religious dissent, political opposition and artistic creativity. ,

However, the right to freedom of expression is not absolute -- neither for the creators of material nor their critics. It carries responsibilities and it may, therefore, be subject to restrictions in the name of safeguarding the rights of others. In particular, any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence cannot be considered legitimate exercise of freedom of expression. Under international standards, such "hate speech" should be prohibited by law.,

You can read more about freedom of expression on our website
at;
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-speech-freedom-expression-human-right

If you have any further queries, or if we can help in any other way, please don't hesitate to get in touch.

Kind regards,

Supporter Communications Team
Amnesty International UK Section
The Human Rights Action Centre, 17 - 25 New Inn Yard, London
EC2A 3EA Email: [email protected]
Tel: +44 (0) 20 7033 1777
www.amnesty.org.uk```

2018-04-12 19:37:55 UTC

hmmmmmmmmmmm

2018-04-12 19:37:56 UTC

mmmmmmmm

2018-04-12 19:37:57 UTC

mmmmmmm

2018-04-12 19:37:59 UTC

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

2018-04-12 20:03:44 UTC

Paul

2018-04-12 20:03:45 UTC

lel

2018-04-12 20:27:54 UTC

fucking Paul, Reaps is a fucking southern hemisphere chav.

2018-04-12 20:28:32 UTC

It's from the website, you spastics.

2018-04-12 22:26:38 UTC

Lol

2018-04-12 23:37:26 UTC

Can't believe the british mps take so long to respond

2018-04-13 02:46:37 UTC

good lord I'm laughing my toosh off

2018-04-13 02:47:07 UTC

I nutted upon seeing that title

2018-04-13 02:47:31 UTC

if Styx wins a governorship, a new dawn is truly upon the horizon

2018-04-13 02:50:21 UTC

fuck yea it will. Though I would love to see Styx run for Congress after he become a governor, but he said D.C is too drenched in deep state muck for him to want to, which is understandable

2018-04-13 02:51:28 UTC

This New America will be so glorious.

2018-04-13 02:55:20 UTC

I can't even imagine what his opponent is going to think about it

2018-04-13 02:55:31 UTC

Like who the fuck am I running against?

2018-04-13 02:55:36 UTC

How do I even react to this?

2018-04-13 02:55:55 UTC

It isn't dressed up in a suit spewing spin and rhetorical crap, how do I even?

2018-04-13 02:55:58 UTC

Styx for governor

2018-04-13 02:56:18 UTC

imagine styx showing up to a debate bare chested

2018-04-13 02:56:26 UTC

omfg

2018-04-13 02:56:29 UTC

fuck

2018-04-13 02:56:29 UTC

yes

2018-04-13 02:56:45 UTC

@Deleted User What's your opinion on Service guaranteeing Citizenship?

2018-04-13 02:58:54 UTC

He said if he delivers a state address he'll be wearing the jacket.

2018-04-13 02:59:12 UTC

I know. I love the audacity

2018-04-13 03:13:40 UTC

I'm gonna savor every goddamn second of that

2018-04-13 03:17:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/434190434680700929/unknown.png

2018-04-13 03:29:04 UTC

meme jihad against the normie vermonters

2018-04-13 03:29:47 UTC

yus

2018-04-13 03:30:34 UTC

fuckin hell Paulie

2018-04-13 03:30:46 UTC

wot

2018-04-13 03:31:06 UTC

who is paulie?

2018-04-13 03:31:22 UTC

@DanConway that's some breaking fucking news right there

2018-04-13 03:34:37 UTC

Attorney General Paxton said. โ€œI want to thank the Attorney General of California, the U.S. Department of Justice, federal law enforcement officials, Nueces County District Attorney Mark Gonzalez, and the prosecutors and law enforcement in my office for their outstanding collaborative work on this investigation and prosecution.โ€

2018-04-13 03:34:47 UTC

Yeah, I want to thank all those people too.

2018-04-13 03:35:12 UTC

God's work right there.

2018-04-13 05:31:39 UTC

Wow, they really don't like Styx in Vermont, do they?

2018-04-13 05:34:23 UTC

could be because they're le redditors

2018-04-13 06:07:28 UTC

@Fitzydog
Most people don't even know the guy

2018-04-13 06:08:00 UTC

Don't base your opinion, on a heavily biased corner of the internet

Tulsi is generally very good on Forgein Policy stuff

but she served, so that makes sense

2018-04-13 13:29:22 UTC

tulsi is broo's waifu too

2018-04-13 13:31:05 UTC

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
A few served too, McCain was a war prisoner, if I'm not wrong

McCain is a warhawk. Fuck that guy

Lindsay Shepard is my Waifu

2018-04-13 13:33:02 UTC

For now

2018-04-13 13:33:10 UTC

And she is not even that hot tbh

2018-04-13 13:47:13 UTC

you listen to him broo

2018-04-13 13:47:35 UTC

brazilians really know what makes their peckers work

2018-04-13 14:19:35 UTC

Sheโ€™s mine you fuck

2018-04-13 14:34:43 UTC

Donโ€™t you actually have a fiancรฉe jdm?

2018-04-13 14:35:13 UTC

Or was that slang for โ€œbody pillowโ€ ?

2018-04-13 14:36:58 UTC

Jdm is weeb confirmed

2018-04-13 14:46:03 UTC

Styx just withdrew from the governor race

2018-04-13 14:47:03 UTC

He's concerned about his income from international viewers becoming an issue with state election law

2018-04-13 14:47:54 UTC

Huh

2018-04-13 14:48:49 UTC

Yeah, Idk. I don't think it's as big of a problem as he does

2018-04-13 14:49:07 UTC

Trump had an international income

2018-04-13 14:52:35 UTC

If he incorporated the campaign arm of his brand though, and only let Vermont residents donate to it, while keeping the funds from his Patreon and YouTube separate, that might work.

2018-04-13 15:46:48 UTC

That was fast

2018-04-13 16:03:45 UTC

Yeah

2018-04-13 18:04:33 UTC

I listened to her interview wtih Mark Steyn

2018-04-13 18:04:37 UTC

she mentions she has a new boyfriend

2018-04-13 18:04:39 UTC

who is 'far right'

2018-04-13 18:04:48 UTC

nfi what qualifies as 'far right' to her, though

2018-04-13 18:08:49 UTC

Probably a Bernie supporter.

2018-04-13 21:53:12 UTC

that was brief

2018-04-13 22:31:28 UTC

yeap

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