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The majority of crazy men come from the majority racial population? Really makes you thunk
The funny thing is they give you enough statistics to show that whites commit less than their share of population
But they cut the population # in half bc "white men"
The most retarded/dishonest manipulation of statistics I've seen
The fact that his skin color is in the headline, is shitty enough
Plus, get ready for the "white men is the devil" articles
We already got a fire hose on that
I want to collect some of that shit for a meta-news type project that shows the narratives of media over time
It would be a good idea
Historians can look back and say "oh that's why there was a civil war"
Also, would be better if you did that with politicians, since usa have a 2 party system would be interesting to see their narrative throughout the years
Public statements could be cataloged but they are more difficult to deconstruct many times
It ok to demonize white men in the news.
With inverted pyramid stories, the theses are very explicitly laid out
It's more than okay
Weren't the Dems the more pro-segregation party decades back or was that just a meme people made up?
It's your journalistic duty
That's why I'm saying it
People paint the party thing both ways
I can't think of this shit culminating in any way other than banning white males
I think that would be far enough to make the racism apparent
I guess it could be done by degrees
Probably more advantageous to keep them as second-class members
@OppoQuinn the Democratic Party of the south. Yes. The Republican Party used to be the northern progressive one.
This lady can't deal with the fact that she's a commie
I WAS RAISED IN A FDR HOUSEHOLD
FDR WAS A COMMIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Best bit is she is scared of the rise of HITLER
but if HITLER called this rally she would attend
well shit 🤔
the new deal was pure shit
We need deals that a benefitial to everyone folks!
Those antifa Japanese internment camps eh?
The confiscation of gold
Good guy with a gun
ALPHA AS FUCK
dat neck tattoo doe
didn't notice it till I clicked through
OH NOES HE A RAZZIST CONDMN HIM
Good ole Boy
FIST ME DADDY 🤜🏾
"quick, somebody get a doct- oh."
Well, um, good to see they give a damn about 'muh freeze speach' now
Yay identity politics
goddamn uncle tom latinos supporting Trump who HATES MEXICANNNNNNNNNNS HNNNNNNNNNG
"terrorism doesn't need to have a political agenda"
"You're not smarter than a dictionary"
"Yes I am"
Mirriam-Webster? **not woke enough**
Mirriam I sleep
Urban Dictionary i wake
What some dud on tumbler says I WOKE
"Feminism isn't about the equality of sexes"
"THE **DIKSHONARRY DEFFENISHON** OF FEMINISM SAYS SO"
American gun culture is unhindet
i love muh gunz
and muh constitution
unhinged sorry typo
also that shop looks really bad security-wise
to be perfectly fair if you are not an american or you've never been to america you've got literally no idea how our gun culture works
and its not that outside observers can't be accurate its that you will never ever ever see a fair portrayal of american gun culture anywhere outside of the US
Dude there is a gun culture problem in the US
i mean even in the US the myth that we don't do background checks is still common
99% of everything you are told about us is a lie
I live in gun centric america
show me the problem
There is a crime problem in America
is probally more accurate
first define what "gun culture" even is
a "newsworthy" crime problem
Its like when people say rape culture
its not like gun owners live in camps like lepers on the outskirts of town we're regular people everywhere
a subset of the larger population not exterior to it
Then why do you have all those school and church shootings?
the biggest factor is the fucking media
You should really be asking why there's so much violent knife crime
Seeing as it's waaaaay higher
think about it, if youre a lonely deranged asshole the quickest, easiest way to get your face plastered onto every TV in america for a week straight is to shoot up someplace
You are saying gun = knife?
both are weapons
One's a tool.
Both are tools
A gun is not a tool. It has one purpose.
That's the difference between gun owners and non owners
its purpose is decided by the person using it.
a device or implement, especially one held in the hand, used to carry out a particular function
to think that the manufacturers intended purpose is in any way relevant is ridiculous
A hammer is as much a tool or weapon as a gun
Or even...A sickle
So in what way can you use a gun then?
how about recreational shooting since thats 99% of the ammunition expended in the US
Currently there is an epidemic of wild pigs in the central US
why do effectively nonlethal calibers like .22LR wildly outsell large bore calibers?
Because squirrels ruin our birdfeeders
most people own guns exclusively for recreation
So you're undermining your own point by making a different statement.
or hunting, or defense
Hunting and defense are both using the gun for killing.
yes but thats like saying we should ban fire extinguishers to prevent fires.
No, it's not. Not even close.
Why is having a gun for home defense a bad thing then?
I never made that statement.
Having a gun or having an arsenal
your argument hinges on guns being used "for killing" and that somehow justifies banning them despiute the non sequitur
I never made that statement either.
the number of guns is literally irrelevant
if you're safe and responsibe with one gun you will continue being safe and responsible with a stockpile of them
It makes theft easier
Need to commit only one burglary
do gunsafes not exist in your country? I can buy them at fucking costco.
You made the, apologise the rudeness, but. Retarded statement that a gun can be used as a tool. Which it cannot.
Comparing them to knives, which are tools. Is not the same comparison.
If you're comparing them to swords? Sure. Then we can compare it.
I never made any statement on whether guns should be banned or not.
if I use a shotgun with blanks to run a boat-to-boat line charge is it still a weapon?
Break ins occur far less frequently in areas where more people illegally own guns
Am I seeing an underlying "NAP of animals" thing in play here?
You just made that implication because you're trying to defend guns using retarded logic that you cannot see your own faulty arguements.
In the medieval era, was a sword a weapon exclusively?
whether or not guns are weapons - btw legally, anything used to assault someone is a weapon - isn't important
You could make the argument that a gun is tool for killing
Yes it was Jek. A knife wasn't. A sword was.
even so, what is your point?
Did people not use the blade to cut things in the field?
at which point does a bladed weapon stop being a weapon then?
Different countries have different laws on this.
what is the distinction?
Length of blade, concealment, etc.
no you've already ignored the laws
im talking logically
im not interested in whatever obligatory number the bureaucrats have decided to set
You haven't lived in the American West, so I can understand why you wouldn't acknowledge that a gun can be a tool
It varies. There's no one answer.
But you can compare all the numbers and use the common denominator if you want.
It's about perception
lmao so we should just average up all the EU's draconian knife laws for the one true answer? what a laugh.
In America, to legal gun owners, a gun is at the same time a weapon, a tool, and a recreational implement.
heres a super easy fix: stop treating people like they don't have individual agency.
In Switzerland it's legal to own guns.
Guns are not considered tools.
I literally dont care what switzerland does
i think you've just invented argumentum ad europa
I mean we're statistically more civilised.
lmao sure my dude
That was uncalled for
i couldnt resist
a cave-dwelling american troglodyte like myself cannot possibly comprehend the technological and societal bliss that is europe
and their Muslim no go zones
And rape gangs
Either way, Jek. No one is trying to tell you you shouldn't have guns.
But for the love of sense. Stop trying to defend "A gun is a tool"
Because that's literally retarded.
A gun is a tool
A gun is a tool
like literally lets define what a weapon is
My fridge is fully stocked with deer meat that I hunted.
I used the gun as a tool to feed my family
a weapon is any implement used to assault a person or animal, can we agree to that definition?
a rubber mallet is absolutely a weapon if you start attacking people with it, you can't logically deny that
nothing is intrinsicly assaulting people
It can be used *as* a weapon. But it isn't inherently a weapon.
now we've come to some clarity
As if that somehow proves your point, but go on.
nothing is a weapon by default, it can only be *used* as a weapon
Things made for killing are weapons by default.
I have a czech military surplus rifle easily capable of downing 20 men, but the most fearsome thing i've ever shot with it is a pumpkin
it is not a weapon
Is a shotgun that fires bean bags a weapon?
not in the strictest sense
You're trying to argue that because you don't use your sword to cut down people it was never made for cutting down people to begin with.
the point is that there is no logical distinction between weapon and non-weapon
What about an ornamental sword?
It's not made for usage at all
Most kitchen knives are made to cut meat but not necessarily cleave through a man.
A cleaver is made to cleave the bone in meat on a table but it's horrible to try to cleave down an actual person. For that you have *larger* and generally sharper *weapons* made.
so if I kill somebody with, say, a benchrest gun, its a rifle that is used exclusively for high-accuracy target shooting and can't even be weilded as its literally bolted to a table, is it not a weapon?
Also generally known as. Here it comes. Swords.
Swords are weapons.
Guns are made for killing, they're inherently weapons.
that statement is factually untrue
I can name you several dozen guns clearly not designed for lethal use
What about a target pistol made specifically for competitive shooting?
Literally designed from the blueprint to be used in competition
Using an unicorn to disprove a trend
flare pistols, line guns, bench rifles, etc etc etc
Are those the majority of guns?
They're a subset, and certainly not one-off
no, but nevertheless they are guns which are not weapons
And flare pistolf have a designated use
But you said pistol
lol actually no
Which is a gun
i have a 37mm flaregun I use an adapter for to shoot shotgun shells
intended use be damned
You're literally not helping your cause here mate.
Your logic is so far out of the window it's not even funny.
What about potato guns?
my point is that even if you make the absurd statement that guns can even be intrinsicly weapons, that not all guns *are* weapons, but even those can be used outside of their intended purpose
Made out of pvc and compressed air
UK banned katanas, right? That sure stopped the increase of criminal samurais.
If this is still going on after my midterm I will gladly jump in.
its because intended purpose is completely meaningless
Should pvc pipe be regulated?
i guarantee you that if there were a potato gun attack in the UK they would start doing ID checks for hairspray and piping.
And regulate the sale of potatoes.
You have carry your ID always so that is a moot point
"Sir, are you licensed to buy those vegetables?
because they're a bunch of eurotrash draconian busybodies who think they can ban everything they don't like out of existence
And you can make bombs from fertilizers
i love how you're literally defending random ID checks
nah I think it's just a difference of perception
I can't wait for the EU police of vice and virtue checking ID's at checkpoints and confiscating potatoes
Random ID checks. What is wnong with them?
does the word Gestapo have a meaning to you?
Just to jump in quickly before my midterm, all weapons were designed as tools first. Spears were used to hunt by early humans, became used for war because it's a convent second use.
Does the word hyperbole have a meaning to you?
ya'll are being weaponist right now
NOT ALL WEAPONS
man europe really is going down the shitter if this is the line of thought
Yeah Radeon you might be jumping the shark a bit
I obviously wasn't being serious
the phrase euro-cucked exists for a reason