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2019-02-04 01:16:15 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste Do you still think walls are immoral, or ineffective?

2019-02-04 01:16:55 UTC

@EnderOctanus his county has one of the most fortified borders in the world

2019-02-04 01:17:02 UTC

Yeah.

2019-02-04 01:17:06 UTC

He's in no position to object to it

2019-02-04 01:17:09 UTC

WE MUST TRANSFER NATIONAL SOVERIGNTY TO THE EU!!

2019-02-04 01:17:18 UTC

lol

2019-02-04 01:18:01 UTC

Honestly I would be all for the stupid Europeans holding themselves down, if they weren't also so anti-American.

2019-02-04 01:20:17 UTC

I wouldn't mind glassing Europe tbh

2019-02-04 01:20:28 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ก

2019-02-04 01:20:35 UTC

It is the new Middle East after all <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2019-02-04 01:20:50 UTC

#notall

2019-02-04 01:20:57 UTC

Don't blame us Noodles. Blame your dumb people.

2019-02-04 01:21:42 UTC

@EnderOctanus Yer not a noodle

2019-02-04 01:21:46 UTC

Give us time

2019-02-04 01:22:12 UTC

Could legit fascism be good for Europe?

2019-02-04 01:22:15 UTC

Alliance with Germany?

2019-02-04 01:22:20 UTC
2019-02-04 01:22:20 UTC

They like centralization enough

2019-02-04 01:22:29 UTC

Who

2019-02-04 01:23:09 UTC

Wait what?

2019-02-04 01:23:55 UTC

This is pretty confusing indeed

2019-02-04 01:24:08 UTC

@Fitzydog who u talking to nibb

2019-02-04 01:24:24 UTC
2019-02-04 01:24:24 UTC

Wait Salvini wants to ally with the Germans?

2019-02-04 01:24:32 UTC

Europe doesn't know how to Liberal

2019-02-04 01:24:40 UTC

@EnderOctanus Salvini wants to take over the EU

2019-02-04 01:25:29 UTC

@Fitzydog history should show you they don't do well even under dictatorship

2019-02-04 01:25:32 UTC

The Germans want to take over the world for themselves.

2019-02-04 01:25:53 UTC

Why would they work with Salvini?

2019-02-04 01:26:31 UTC

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2019-02-04 01:26:47 UTC

I'm pretty sure salvy wants to take over and yeet the Germans

2019-02-04 01:26:54 UTC

Broo was saying sometimes like that

2019-02-04 01:28:11 UTC

Then why would he try to get the Germans on his side if he thinks they're the problem?

2019-02-04 01:28:34 UTC

What am I misunderstanding?

2019-02-04 01:31:08 UTC

I don't know, that wasn't the article I meant to send

2019-02-04 01:47:18 UTC

incidentally, Mo Ansar is being disrespectful when he keeps saying "put a lid on it" - it's not a friendly term

2019-02-04 01:47:33 UTC

@EnderOctanus I do think that walls are immoral and infeffective

2019-02-04 01:48:26 UTC

oof

2019-02-04 01:48:47 UTC

Someone's a brainwashed cuck

2019-02-04 01:49:27 UTC

nice way to make sure you don't have an argument is to just sling insults ๐Ÿ‘

2019-02-04 01:50:09 UTC

Magnets!

2019-02-04 01:50:10 UTC

The point of a wall is to make it obvious when someone is getting over and give enough time for someone to respond.

2019-02-04 01:50:19 UTC

Does it do that?

2019-02-04 01:50:27 UTC
2019-02-04 01:51:36 UTC

It doesn't make it more obvious when walls are being climbed

2019-02-04 01:51:47 UTC

Yeah, it does retard

2019-02-04 01:52:09 UTC

Precisely when people climb them they try not to be seen or heard

2019-02-04 01:53:51 UTC

Your entire argument is "Walls don't entirely prevent people from getting over and entering a country, so we should abandon the concept altogether, even though the barrier itself assists in border protection forces arriving to the scene in time to apprehend the Intruders"

2019-02-04 01:54:09 UTC

You are a globalist cuck

2019-02-04 01:54:15 UTC

well, a wall would do away with the defence of crossing the border by accident

2019-02-04 01:54:31 UTC

it is symbolic

2019-02-04 01:54:47 UTC

jesus christ, are the insults really necessary?

2019-02-04 01:55:22 UTC

Yes, at this point. You've been on this server long enough to know where we stand and to reiterate our arguments faithfully

2019-02-04 01:55:40 UTC

Yet you think we act in bad faith

2019-02-04 01:55:55 UTC

Regardless the whole reason why walls don't work, not only because they're terribly expensive, but do little when it comes to solving the problem. The problem is still going to be there, and the wall won't do anything to address the issue

2019-02-04 01:56:27 UTC

The issue is an international one that is not our problem to address.

2019-02-04 01:57:06 UTC

You mean a problem with your southern neighbour, not only a close economic but also political ally?

2019-02-04 01:57:40 UTC

Yep, not my problem. If they collapse into a black hole, it will have very little economic impact on us

2019-02-04 01:57:50 UTC

Seriously, look it up

2019-02-04 01:58:01 UTC

They're of little consequence

2019-02-04 01:58:09 UTC

It kinda does when a large part of your manufactured imports, and exports come and go to said country

2019-02-04 01:58:35 UTC

Sorry to force myself in here but just wanted to say something. Walls. Do. Work. <:cleanyourroom:429612328192049152>

2019-02-04 01:58:47 UTC

You mean Central America? Practically none of our trade happens with them

2019-02-04 01:59:04 UTC

The immigrants aren't from Mexico

2019-02-04 01:59:07 UTC

Mexico

2019-02-04 01:59:29 UTC

Mexico just let's them cross their country

2019-02-04 02:00:59 UTC

Mexico doesn't let them cross their country, they have a tightly controlled southern border

2019-02-04 02:01:46 UTC

Did they air drop the caravan next to the border...?

2019-02-04 02:02:26 UTC
2019-02-04 02:02:36 UTC

that was stormed by the migrants several times by now by attacking the border point by throwing rocks at the guards while pushing the woman and kids in font of them

2019-02-04 02:03:14 UTC

Yeah, it's controlled NOW

2019-02-04 02:03:21 UTC

The Caravan itself had many people being arrested and deported though the countires they were travelling, especially in Guatemala. However there were so many of them that they couldn't be all deported and security forces were overrun

2019-02-04 02:03:36 UTC

So.... a wall would slow them down?

2019-02-04 02:04:34 UTC

A wall would only force them all to concentrate and make it even harder to stop them all

2019-02-04 02:04:53 UTC

How would they do that after the wall?

2019-02-04 02:05:39 UTC

Considering it's gonna stop 70%+ of illegals coming in

2019-02-04 02:05:45 UTC

> harder to stop them all

2019-02-04 02:05:48 UTC

nigga wut

2019-02-04 02:05:59 UTC

Explain

2019-02-04 02:06:10 UTC

Nobody is making the argument that the Wall is going to STOP THEM ALL

2019-02-04 02:06:12 UTC

For the most part, walls can be easily climbed over, and the drug cartels have enough tools to provide for crossings in unwatched points. Furthermore, there already are hundreds of tunnels beneath the US border used to smuggle drugs, so People can easily be smuggled below

2019-02-04 02:06:31 UTC

Hungary did have a 90% drop on illigals when they did put up a normal chain-link fence with barb wire at the top

2019-02-04 02:06:32 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste You realize the new wall also goes down like 6 ft?

2019-02-04 02:06:43 UTC

<:what:382980756139409409>

2019-02-04 02:06:58 UTC

This guy just parrots globalist talking points

2019-02-04 02:07:15 UTC

6 feet? so like a metre?

2019-02-04 02:07:21 UTC

2 meters

2019-02-04 02:07:24 UTC

these tunnels run below tens of metre below the border

2019-02-04 02:07:33 UTC

No, they dont

2019-02-04 02:07:34 UTC

not just a couple feet

2019-02-04 02:07:39 UTC

Yes they do

2019-02-04 02:07:44 UTC

They're mostly right below ground

2019-02-04 02:07:49 UTC

Have you not read into El Chapo Guzman's tunnels?

2019-02-04 02:07:57 UTC

also, that's a minority of border crossings

2019-02-04 02:07:59 UTC

They literally are impossible to track because they're that deep

2019-02-04 02:08:18 UTC

and I'm guessing the wall is going to do like the east Germans did do it. a geo microphone to listen after anyone digging underground

2019-02-04 02:08:19 UTC

So what you're saying is, because theres tunnels, we should abandon walls?

2019-02-04 02:08:36 UTC

and that tech is so old they did use it in ww1

2019-02-04 02:08:39 UTC

They are now, but once the border is up, hundreds of new tunnels will be built, because the demand will drive prices so hard upwards, that Cartels would be stupid not to invest in the busniess

2019-02-04 02:08:40 UTC

Do you have a fence in your backyard?

2019-02-04 02:08:54 UTC

We have a fence yes

2019-02-04 02:09:00 UTC

And it's easily climbable

2019-02-04 02:09:06 UTC

not meant to stop people, but rather for privacy

2019-02-04 02:09:20 UTC

any locks on your doors?

2019-02-04 02:09:27 UTC

You can put sensors on the top

2019-02-04 02:09:47 UTC

yeah, and how will we know whether it's a person or a bird?

2019-02-04 02:10:08 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste Ask any border agent whether walls work at helping to apprehend illegal crossi gs

2019-02-04 02:10:10 UTC

should we grab the guns every time a bird sits on the sensor?

2019-02-04 02:10:11 UTC

we have sensor so accurate now that it can see what type of bird it is

2019-02-04 02:10:28 UTC

Only "illegals" would try to climb ur fence?

2019-02-04 02:11:29 UTC

"AHA! I found a small issue with your border wall that makes it less of a deterrent than what we all thought it would be! Therefore, you don't need a wall!"

2019-02-04 02:12:31 UTC

@Fitzydog I'll tell that every time there is a crossing in Melilla or Ceuta, hundreds escape simply because there are thousands of them attempting to cross, and a third of them manage to get through police lines. Those that don't simply try again and again and again until they make it. It's not going to stop them, they have literally nothing to lose by living on the border and every other day trying to get across

2019-02-04 02:12:51 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste Have you tried shooting them?

2019-02-04 02:13:04 UTC

Well that's just ridiculous

2019-02-04 02:13:08 UTC

A wall + Shooting them would stop them.

2019-02-04 02:13:09 UTC

No you are

2019-02-04 02:13:37 UTC

I want my wall complete with machine gun nests

2019-02-04 02:13:42 UTC

and that is why trump have now deployed over 8k soldiers at the border now. as he is expecting an army of illigals to invade the US

2019-02-04 02:13:46 UTC

Shooting people because they're trying to enter the country illegally. You know who else does that? North Korea and China, and they're not the bastions of liberty are they

2019-02-04 02:14:04 UTC

no one tries to enter NK illegally

2019-02-04 02:14:07 UTC

so dont brake the law and go back home fix your shit hole

2019-02-04 02:14:11 UTC

They shoot the ones that try to get out

2019-02-04 02:14:23 UTC

They shoot anyone crossing the border without permission

2019-02-04 02:14:31 UTC

Yeah, GETTING OUT

2019-02-04 02:14:49 UTC

They nearly shot americans and koreans that tried to chop down a tree that was blocking the path on the border

2019-02-04 02:14:53 UTC

It's a very important distinction, do they want people not to enter or not to leave?

2019-02-04 02:15:00 UTC

both

2019-02-04 02:15:01 UTC

shooting them's a waste of bullets, I prefer to put them in a labor camp for 20 years with no chance of appeal

2019-02-04 02:15:14 UTC

@galesteppesMake them build the wall

2019-02-04 02:15:44 UTC

same problem with the berlin wall. it was not there to stop people going in to east Germany but escaping it

2019-02-04 02:16:03 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste when are you going to update your pfp with the new flag?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/541804097750302721/255px-Flag_of_Morocco.png

2019-02-04 02:16:04 UTC

It's extremely hard to get into North Korea unless you are a diplomat, friends of the regime or are on some special scientific trip. Tourism is extremely small and highly controlled. THey don't want people into the country

2019-02-04 02:16:27 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste What would you do if some hobo was sleeping in your fenced off backyard?

2019-02-04 02:16:29 UTC

They'll shoot you on sight if you attempt to cross the border

2019-02-04 02:16:51 UTC

I would kick him out

2019-02-04 02:16:56 UTC

<:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2019-02-04 02:16:56 UTC

A wall preventing your own citizens from escaping your tyranny is a lot different from a wall meant to protect your citizens from illegals coming in...

2019-02-04 02:17:07 UTC

@Fitzydog looks like that fence didn't really help

2019-02-04 02:17:21 UTC

Build a bigger one and carry a gun

2019-02-04 02:17:22 UTC

would a wall stop a person with nothing to lose and very determined?

2019-02-04 02:17:27 UTC

Yes

2019-02-04 02:17:28 UTC

No

2019-02-04 02:17:30 UTC

A gun does

2019-02-04 02:17:31 UTC

Use a gun

2019-02-04 02:17:49 UTC

And go to prison for murder, yea thanks I'd reserve you that privilege

2019-02-04 02:17:51 UTC

No matter the determination they have a gun can stop it.

2019-02-04 02:18:06 UTC

it stopes most people, and the important part it stope the criminals that run the borders back and forward all the time

2019-02-04 02:18:17 UTC

murder? lol

2019-02-04 02:18:24 UTC

It's not murder

2019-02-04 02:18:52 UTC

Shooting a hobo

2019-02-04 02:19:03 UTC

Shooting a home invader?

2019-02-04 02:19:07 UTC

Yes

2019-02-04 02:19:10 UTC

also murder

2019-02-04 02:19:14 UTC

Shooting a hobo who's invaded your house trying to kill you isn't murder?

2019-02-04 02:19:17 UTC

Yeah, not murder

2019-02-04 02:19:22 UTC

It is

2019-02-04 02:19:30 UTC

<:super_edgy:426099058466095119>

2019-02-04 02:19:31 UTC

this is why we left europe

2019-02-04 02:19:34 UTC

this is why I don't feel bad when terror attacks happen in europe

2019-02-04 02:19:34 UTC

if I get a home invader he is getting 2 barrels of shotgun to the face. it a simple as that

2019-02-04 02:19:47 UTC

You cucks deserve to die like the sheep you are

2019-02-04 02:19:51 UTC

Yep

2019-02-04 02:20:00 UTC

<:gun_mouth:510320222365024268>

2019-02-04 02:20:04 UTC

I'll piss all of your grave

2019-02-04 02:20:17 UTC

@Nordhand and go to Prison due to Norwegian laws

2019-02-04 02:20:30 UTC

>norway
>scary prison
๐Ÿคฃ

2019-02-04 02:20:32 UTC

good joke m8

2019-02-04 02:20:34 UTC

wrong. I have a right to defend my home from invaders

2019-02-04 02:20:35 UTC

*muh laws*

2019-02-04 02:20:45 UTC

I do not live in a shithole like EU

2019-02-04 02:20:48 UTC

I mean I still feel bad for em. There are of people who dont support that shit but still they let them in willingly and certainly made their bed. Now they have to sleep on it.

2019-02-04 02:20:48 UTC

Thats just extra time to play xbox

2019-02-04 02:20:48 UTC

@Nordhand You have the right to use lethal force if your life is in danger

2019-02-04 02:20:59 UTC

Now listen, if Spain wants to take immigrants, who are you to tell them otherwise?
We need some place to dump them anyways

2019-02-04 02:21:24 UTC

yea, and If you are invading my home I will see that as a life threating event. and the courts agree on it

2019-02-04 02:21:25 UTC

Export all immigrants to Spain

2019-02-04 02:21:52 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste A country has the right to use lethal force if the lives of its citizens are in danger.

2019-02-04 02:21:58 UTC

@Ondsinet just send all of your migrants to spain and bill them as reparations for colonization

2019-02-04 02:22:26 UTC

We already take them we stuff them in Benidorm and Mallorca

2019-02-04 02:22:44 UTC

@Amir That doesn't imply shooting immigrants on sight

2019-02-04 02:22:55 UTC

@galesteppes Salvini did block several ships from entering Italy and the went to Spain, where they evicted a bunch of students to make place for the immigrants

2019-02-04 02:23:06 UTC

Shooting immigrants on sight isn't a policy?

2019-02-04 02:23:07 UTC

Sargon reported on it and I lolled hard

2019-02-04 02:23:18 UTC

It's MY policy

2019-02-04 02:23:28 UTC

Shoot them as they're crossing the border

2019-02-04 02:23:41 UTC

no shit, they're in mallorca, that's the 17th Bundesland of germany

2019-02-04 02:23:49 UTC

@Fitzydog Well then, I don't see you at the border with your shotgun mr cowboy

2019-02-04 02:23:50 UTC

If the wall can't stop em and they're still coming in then yeah...

2019-02-04 02:24:08 UTC

that's because you're going to gyp him, romani @Capitรกn Alatriste

2019-02-04 02:24:14 UTC

@Capitรกn Alatriste The private border security forces aren't taking volunteers anymore

2019-02-04 02:24:34 UTC

spain is what happens when you mix romance and romani

2019-02-04 02:24:41 UTC

You said you'd do it youself as a personal policy

2019-02-04 02:25:21 UTC

Yes, it is my policy opinion. If we had a vote on it, which we should, then violent force would be used

2019-02-04 02:26:04 UTC

There's a difference between principles and morality, and the law

2019-02-04 02:26:16 UTC

Something you might not understand

2019-02-04 02:26:44 UTC

and personal responsiblity.....

2019-02-04 02:27:01 UTC

Laws are made after morals and principles

2019-02-04 02:27:11 UTC

Sure lol

2019-02-04 02:27:49 UTC

we have immoral laws. the the third trimester abortion laws that was passed

2019-02-04 02:28:27 UTC

Laws are not morality

2019-02-04 02:28:39 UTC

Laws can be immoral

2019-02-04 02:29:00 UTC

@Nordhand didn't you hear, now they're pushing for the post birth "abortion" ?

2019-02-04 02:29:07 UTC

Laws are based on the morality and principles of the time, laws which can be changed or amended as times change.

2019-02-04 02:29:23 UTC

did see that. and the backlash is epic @galesteppes

2019-02-04 02:29:26 UTC

Morality doesn't change, you relativistic fuck

2019-02-04 02:29:39 UTC

Why not?

2019-02-04 02:29:42 UTC

>laws are moral
๐Ÿคฃ

2019-02-04 02:29:48 UTC

sharia law is pretty moral then?

2019-02-04 02:29:51 UTC

Our morals current are not the same as the morals of the past

2019-02-04 02:29:59 UTC

You're either a piece of a shit or you're not. Nothing will change that lol

2019-02-04 02:30:03 UTC

@galesteppes It's moral to them

2019-02-04 02:30:05 UTC

Yeah, and we're suffering because of it

2019-02-04 02:30:14 UTC

ah that relatativism

2019-02-04 02:30:19 UTC

miss me with that shit

2019-02-04 02:30:23 UTC

pedo defender

2019-02-04 02:30:40 UTC

Fuck off back to your hellscape

2019-02-04 02:30:59 UTC

but spain is a hellscape already....

2019-02-04 02:31:10 UTC

There is no universal morality. Our cultures have different morals, what we see as moral others may see as immoral and viceversa

2019-02-04 02:31:11 UTC

Yeah, he's going back to it

2019-02-04 02:31:20 UTC

It's the reason why different cultures have different laws

2019-02-04 02:31:22 UTC

And that's why you're a cuck

2019-02-04 02:31:38 UTC

"Others" can fuck off

2019-02-04 02:31:52 UTC

@Amir tfw the turk is more anti pedo than the yuro

2019-02-04 02:32:01 UTC

๐Ÿคฃ

2019-02-04 02:32:03 UTC

Who's the turk

2019-02-04 02:32:04 UTC

@Fitzydog any evidence to prove that I am in fact a cuck? Or is it just a buzzword you use to generalise a group of people just because they have opposing views?

2019-02-04 02:32:12 UTC

@Amir are you not a turk?

2019-02-04 02:32:22 UTC

Hecc no I'm not stupid

2019-02-04 02:32:26 UTC

<:oof:494878589406150657>

2019-02-04 02:32:41 UTC

I could go into depth about universal ethics and the origin of such going back thousands of years, but I doubt you'd understand

2019-02-04 02:32:50 UTC

I come from the true superior race

2019-02-04 02:32:55 UTC

Sure, or are either too lazy to do so

2019-02-04 02:33:02 UTC

Go back to church.

2019-02-04 02:33:07 UTC

Le Persians @galesteppes

2019-02-04 02:33:09 UTC

I'm here, no point not explaining it

2019-02-04 02:33:13 UTC

EWWWWW

2019-02-04 02:33:21 UTC

Excuse me

2019-02-04 02:33:30 UTC

farsi is gayer than kurdistan

2019-02-04 02:33:40 UTC

you guys are the OG homos

2019-02-04 02:34:03 UTC

Church... you mean that institution where you are given your religion, and indoctrinated to believe in something that has no evidence of existing simply because you have no way of explaining how things work?

2019-02-04 02:34:10 UTC

I'm talking real persian not the sort of retards that obey barbaric Islam

2019-02-04 02:34:13 UTC

>be great and powerful sassanaids
>lose to a bunch of sandniggers who barely learned how to write

2019-02-04 02:34:32 UTC

Yep, that one which you abandoned in favor of a centralized state to protect you instead

2019-02-04 02:35:13 UTC

<:what:382980756139409409>

2019-02-04 02:35:15 UTC

@galesteppes Yeah my ancestors did a giant OOPSIE I'm aware

2019-02-04 02:35:26 UTC

Or isn't religion also relative? Do you also believe in stoning people for planting the wrong crops together

2019-02-04 02:35:54 UTC

>thinking that christains are beholden to the old covanent

2019-02-04 02:35:56 UTC

No, because of our universal morality which we progressed towards

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