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dis gun b gud.
i hope everyone from virginia voted here...
So who is here the less objectionable
Not from Virginia, but I did vote
Also thanks for sharing hours before the first results come in
So from the list hat is on the website who have you voted for If I may ask
So many scummy people
Hope they get a long sentence
a death sentence is too good for some people
So think Theresa will make it past the new year?
If you are in favour of the death sentence than you are OK somethimes killing inocent people
If they were innocent they shouldn’t have looked guilty
Kill em anyway
jeremy corbyn is too much of a nut job
And let GOD sort them out
ill check it out
I keep hearing how the crusaders killed all non Christians when they took Jerusalem
But didn’t the guy in charge of the city kick all the Christians out before the siege?
I have yet to see a credible alternative to representative democracy
Muh philosopher king
muh benevolent tyrant
Or plutocracy I guess
constitutional representative republic
You are arguing semantics
it needs to be specific
Republics are inherently democratic
You still have elections
You could argue a noble republic isnt
that is the specific term we use in the US
And a lot of tinpot dictatorships like to call themself republics
they would still be part of the US
They had a chance several decades ago
just breaking up the state
Unfortunately their big rally was December 8th 1941
Too bad they don't have a clause like Texas' constitution
They reserve the right to divide into up to 5 separate states IIRC
“If the right to vote were expanded to seven year olds … its policies would most definitely reflect the ‘legitimate concerns’ of children to have ‘adequate’ and ‘equal’ access to ‘free’ french fries, lemonade and videos.”
What is the point you are trying to make here?
oh it was a response to the quote Kulak refered too
Can you give a TLDW?
Democracy needs checks and balances.
Yes otherwise it would be mob rule
The Tyranny of the majority can be just as bad as the Tyranny of a Dictator
Makes sense that collectivism forms a single body to act on others as a dictator
That is why the founding fathers talked about "the Problem of Democracy"
Democracy is the best system we currenty have
No it’s gay
It has flaws just like capitalism
im just explaining why Constituitonal Representative Republic is the correct term
Or indirect democracy
We vote for people to vote not we vote
I dont know how dirrect democracy could work in the US
They have ballout initiatives and they get low turnout
You’d think 👌 is the only emoji on this server with how often it’s used
“But the US prison system is worse than gulags it has more people!”
Very similar to US mili kills more than terrorism
A republic has to be democratic.
But not democratic for the people.
It could just as easily be democratic for the elite, I.e nobility, the rich, other politicians etc. These are not new concepts.
Venice was a republic for example.
Democracy is a spectrum
I have more options than John or Joyce?
Because this democracy of ours is full of choice
Spectrums are a thing bro
Collapsing issues into binaries is just as retarded as forcing binaries into spectrums
'cause my vote junk
it goes oh oh oh
That's exactly the right message
doesn't have to be either/or or or
*mumbles something about voting Constitution Party*
Muh third party
I actually do kind of want a third party now
Because I no longer give a fuck about hurting the Democrats
I think the last viable third party... was the prohibition party
as far as a third party actually getting any serious political clout, at least
most other smaller parties, as soon as they actually start to get traction, seem to wind up fracturing themselves with people getting waaaaaaay ahead of themselves int he powergrab sweepstakes
dude @ 1:30 appears to be... "involuntarily transitioning"..
Part of the problem there could be that third parties arise from the fringe of one end of the spectrum
I would want some kind of more centrist party
Gain bipartisan support as opposed to just fracturing one of the wings
Did any of you guys watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REHex5e57HI
Has a lot of dislikes.
why the dislikes tho?
that's what I'm wondering
not that much tbh
more than usual is all
looking it the comments I'm guessing Candace was being very aggressive
i will watch this one and leave
Woah........ right off the bat Candace is being a toooootal bitch
Yeah this is why people downvoted for sure
yeah this is much less of a debate and more of an embarrassing fight
Im suprised Dave didn't lose it
It's weird though
there were like 50 and 100 dollar donations
he is such a calm dude
and some of them were very 'yay candace'
you'll see what I mean when you get to the Q&A
which must've lasted all of five fucking minutes
this is so hard to watch, I keep having to stop and cool my jets
man Dave is a saint for handling this so well
oh yea he seems like he could moderate a convo between Amy Schumer and Hitler
what the fuck... someone oughta give candace a free ride in a helicopter
It was a shit show
this bitch is straight up yelling
She even calls Blaire "he" a few times
that was just a disgusting way to start a conversation, with the whole "you're a grown man" shit
Candace is chimping out so hard. Every time she speaks she might as well just punch herself in the face instead.
is there anything to take away from this that I can't figure out within the first 10 minutes?
I just can't do it man, this is too much for me right now.
I can't even👌
I'm glad this is going on right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StRBL5vCUDI
Gah I love patty politics
yeee excited for this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCSZYJywQPM
holy crap this one is an hour long
We aussies have the best politics tbh
Except your shit policies...
We have the leader of the opposition party calling the PM a cunt and then saying it's the correct term, on the floor of Parliament
Much better than any amount of policy
But oh god please someone help us with our shit policies
New EU guidelines for journalists:
A sad, but simultaneously hillarious read
wait, when did Electricity Bill become the PM?
At least someone is pointing out this retardation
That Newsweek article triggered me
it is pretty dumb
he speaks the tru tru
I kinda dnc. Lapsed watching lately
he da best
have any of you guys heard of the Fabian Society?
apparently it's a democratic socialist organization operating in a very similar manner to the Frankfurt school, such that its basically a group to perpetuate communist/marxist ideology.
Its logo is literally a wolf in sheep's clothing
never heard of it
yeah I literally just found out about it and it sure is intrigeing
hmm, I'll have to look into it more
oh my gosh I can't type intriuging
but yeah seems like something to look into
apparently the labour party grew out of it
Why do communist/socialist always choose symbolism that makes them look like classic bad guys?
"They [Fabian Socialists] were going to create a just society for the British workers—the beginning of a welfare state, cheap council housing, free medicine and dental treatment, free spectacles, generous unemployment benefits. Of course, for students from the colonies, like Singapore and Malaya, it was a great attraction as the alternative to communism. We did not see until the 1970s that that was the beginning of big problems contributing to the inevitable decline of the British economy."
So they chose their name by the inspiration of a Roman who used Guerilla-like military tactics to engage a superior army.
So they're... Geurilla Intellectuals.
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
wtf does that mean then
that's a creepy way to think about your ideological quest
Fabian Society Colorized
"The major influence on the Labour Party and on the English-speaking socialist movement worldwide, has meant that Fabianism became one of the main inspirations of international social democracy. An American Fabian Society was established in Boston in February 1895 by Rev. W. D. P. Bliss, a prominent Christian socialist. The group published a periodical, The American Fabian, and issued a small series of pamphlets. Around the same time a parallel organization emerged on the Pacific coast, centered in California, under the influence of socialist activist Laurence Gronlund."
Communists looking dumb with an L on their forehead
So they've since abondoned that logo, and changed it to a tortoise.
[Laurence] Gronlund is best remembered for his pioneering work in adapting the International Socialism of Karl Marx and Ferdinand Lassalle to the American idiom in his popular 1884 book, The Cooperative Commonwealth...and the American socialist movement of the 1880s and 1890s.
no wonder Cali is so fucked up
apparently this guy was pretty influential back in the day... I actually wonder how much of an impact he had
Immediately upon its inception, the Fabian Society began attracting many prominent contemporary figures drawn to its socialist cause, including George Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells...Even Bertrand Russell briefly became a member, but resigned after he expressed his belief that the Society's principle of entente (in this case, between countries allying themselves against Germany) could lead to war.
Snapping turtles are more Badass
They'll fuck you up and your entire family
"The first Fabian Society pamphlets advocating tenets of social justice coincided with the zeitgeist of Liberal reforms during the early 1900s, including eugenics."
what the fuck
how far back does social justice go?
this rabbit hole just keeps going
"The Fabians lobbied for the introduction of a minimum wage in 1906, for the creation of a universal health care system in 1911"
"Through the course of the 20th century the group has always been influential in Labour Party circles, with members including...more recently Shirley Williams, Tony Blair"
"Direct or indirect Fabian influence may also be seen in the liberal socialism of Carlo Rosselli (founder, with his brother Nello Rosselli, of the anti-fascist group's Giustizia e Libertà)"
of course they're allied with the anti-fascists
On tortoises and socialism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSsh7ZDJ0ZU
"It'll get ya....eventually"
yeah right, I'm in australia and just checked out the Fabian Society. I have no idea of the foothold they have here
I hope they don't have a foothold
our country is getting fucked enough as is
we don't need those cunts making things worse
Social justice probably goes a long way
But, the social justice we now from our time, probably started or won more fame during gamegate I guess
It's sad we have to constantly remind people that, if social justice was just, we would call it "justice".
the power theyve had in past PM's is pretty intense but yeah, I guess we should be glad our climate isnt as full as say the US
Much like when we point out to a family member that "medicine that has been proved to work" is called "medicine".
Women- inherently good
Men- inherently evil
time to post "its ok to be white" in womens bathrooms?
That's a smart idea, actually. To stop racism, why don't we just separate white people and ~~coloured people~~ people of colour in public facilities? Different bathrooms, entrances, sitting areas, drinking fountains. Why has nobody thought of this before?
Who would have guessed that Jim Crow was actually progressive.
Talk about a plot twist
Bring back the Jim Crow statue reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
so is r/politics full of neo-progressives. Was just having a look through and its hard not to go crazy not buying into the doctrine of it all
An entire sub dedicated to pointing out politics' absurdity
Im somewhat glad in not in the states but I live in an ultra-progressive bubble, sometimes its feels like fucking stasiland or something
The Republicans are wrong to simply lower the corporate income tax or look at a destination-based cash flow replacement. They should instead drop the rate to around 15% and impose a mark-to-market tax on shareholders at ordinary income, perhaps dragging the rate below 15% as revenue improves from other sources over the decades.
This may end up not working as well if their other changes to the tax code reduce revenue too much, but it’s a better option than potentially skirting the WTO regulations
Wew. That went from zero-to-brutal in about 50 seconds.
GET IN HERE
Did I miss something?
oh look, the thin orange line
extra bonus for wearing orange if they're protesting Trump
not the old 'no peace, no justice'
..they're changing it backwards
it's 'no justice, no peace'
at least the Bush-era protestors could get *that* right
y u do dis to me kulak
you know I'm just gonna offer scatching running commentary on this shit
yes, I too demand comfortable indoor footwear
it sounds like a tree full of birds at sunset
they're so out of sync
'congress act now'