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2018-08-05 18:44:14 UTC

Or just tariff.

2018-08-05 18:46:53 UTC

Thats a tarriff. Sales tax is on goods sold in the country and is usually universal regardless on product origin. Tariffs are taxes only on countries of origin to ship into the nation based on product. Regardless if it sells or not.

2018-08-05 18:48:42 UTC

The issue with tariffs is it is a tax that has no benifit to the ones taxed. Income, Sales, Property taxes go towards things that benifit the payer. But hell many states dont have income or sales, and fed doesnt have sales.

2018-08-05 18:51:04 UTC

benefit being relative in nature depending on the political ideology.

2018-08-05 18:53:00 UTC

I don't understand why everyone wants to criticize Trump for using tariffs but then don't ever seem to care about all the other countries using tariffs against the US.

2018-08-05 19:19:06 UTC

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] noteworthy that the german automakers sperged out when trump said he was introducing a new car tariff.

2018-08-05 19:19:26 UTC

Despite europe charging a 25% import tariff on american cars.

2018-08-05 19:19:39 UTC

And our tariff on them is gonna be 10% lower

2018-08-05 19:20:34 UTC

yo boi it's my old pal Sceneable

2018-08-05 19:28:07 UTC

@LordCaledus maybe they shouldn't fucking cook their books then

2018-08-05 21:06:07 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/475771508740849665/unknown.png

2018-08-05 21:56:21 UTC

TOO DAMN WOKE

2018-08-06 02:53:36 UTC

The thing about tariffs is most people have the concept backward. It isn't a tax on foreign companies. It is a tax on products consumed by the people in a country. The people who pay for it is the consumer.

2018-08-06 02:56:15 UTC

Yes, which means purchasing these items outside of the country increases in cost.

2018-08-06 02:57:01 UTC

Because it in turn affects the product's sale value.

2018-08-06 02:58:33 UTC

The companies themselves will not take the hit on profit because they simply won't let it affect their profit margins.

2018-08-06 02:59:10 UTC

Companies compensate, which means the cost of buying goods in a country is higher.

2018-08-06 02:59:21 UTC

People really need to grasp that part of economy.

2018-08-06 04:10:04 UTC

Holy shit, the guardian AU just got woke

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/475878198350184468/c4crolgc7de11.jpg

2018-08-06 05:26:32 UTC

Meanwhile idiots are posting videos of Bolt interviewing Lauren and Molymeme as "Leftist host debates Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux"

2018-08-06 05:27:03 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/475897575061454878/ww.png

2018-08-06 05:55:49 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_Vs1jtYSE Scott Adams makes some good points on Q

2018-08-06 05:56:30 UTC

Basically the same point I was making the other day. The only purpose Q will serve is to make Trump supporters look like idiots.

2018-08-06 06:08:36 UTC

Even if Q were real, what would be the purpose of leaking things right before everyone else is going to find out anyway? What is the purpose of maintaining an air of mysticism and being so cryptic? There is no purpose, other than to create the false appearance of possessing special knowledge.

2018-08-06 08:30:07 UTC

information and misinformation

2018-08-06 08:31:05 UTC

he's said a few times that there's been misinformation deliberately given out for deep state to pick up

2018-08-06 10:36:14 UTC

wtf is Q?

2018-08-06 10:54:37 UTC

Q the ordinary

2018-08-06 11:21:11 UTC

Q the space troll

2018-08-06 12:57:02 UTC

is that the "i'm a communist" chick?

a Literal Communist

on National Morning TV

2018-08-06 15:32:01 UTC

How do you folk see the difference between Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism?

2018-08-06 15:38:47 UTC

@Omsomething social democracy wants a social market economy with privately run businesses and core state enterprises and social programs to redistribute wealth and power
Democratic socialism wants a state economy/market with state run business and a forced redistribution of wealth

2018-08-06 15:40:52 UTC

Hmm hmm good that seems more or less how i saw it, there has been a lot of talk about Democratic socialists being bad and living in Social Democracy it kind of got me worried that it will cause new head-aches of terms.

2018-08-06 15:41:23 UTC

It already has with people like Bernie

2018-08-06 15:41:36 UTC

Tbh Democratic socialims is a term meant to confuse you

2018-08-06 15:41:41 UTC

There is only socialism

2018-08-06 15:41:55 UTC

thats democraticly elected

2018-08-06 15:42:45 UTC

even though socialism isn't democratic

2018-08-06 15:45:32 UTC

e x a c t l y

2018-08-06 15:47:11 UTC

I am under impression that most objections to socialism by people is that it inherently causes lack of individual rights and power gets re-attributed to few.

2018-08-06 15:53:36 UTC

Huh, i wonder if US socialists are trying to appropriate Nordic culture.

2018-08-06 16:08:32 UTC

When they go scandinavia is socialist they probably are

2018-08-06 16:09:30 UTC

@Omsomething theyโ€™re both pretty fucking gay

2018-08-06 16:10:23 UTC

No u.

2018-08-06 16:12:29 UTC

Hmm good thing i asked this never would have thought about that cultural appropriation way of seeing, if one would think of it certain way both extreme sides of socialism discussion are doing that.

2018-08-06 16:12:43 UTC

Is interesting and amusing to me.

2018-08-06 16:44:03 UTC

Wait is that some other academy of ideas?

2018-08-06 16:44:04 UTC

IS IT GAY IF THE BALLS TOUCH?

2018-08-06 17:42:39 UTC

only if the balls touch

2018-08-06 17:46:41 UTC

Nooo

2018-08-06 17:46:51 UTC

It's only gay if balls touch chin

2018-08-06 17:52:43 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAb1p4DQreI

TFW when a book written by an American libertarian, satirized by a Hollywood leftist becomes an actual political rallying cry in Britain

he's quoting Starship Troopers

2018-08-06 18:02:00 UTC

That's actually a meme

he's like 60 years old

he wouldn't make a meme if it hit him like a truck

2018-08-06 18:04:05 UTC

I'm not sure bout that one

2018-08-06 18:04:13 UTC

Are you beit ageist?

2018-08-06 18:04:18 UTC

Being*

2018-08-06 18:05:17 UTC

He has cited the "Deus Vult" meme in previous videos

he doesn't even have a original background

2018-08-06 18:07:30 UTC

Well I wish you kids in Englamd luck.

2018-08-06 18:07:37 UTC

England*

2018-08-06 18:11:34 UTC

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ True, Paul's got him beat on that. Though to my understanding he is responsible for representing parts of Wales, so it'd make sense to have the map around

2018-08-06 18:11:43 UTC

Meanwhile, in the Twitterverse https://i.imgur.com/MA3TMgd.png

2018-08-06 18:12:14 UTC

awkward

2018-08-06 18:12:37 UTC

"stop complaining about our human rights abuses or we'll fly this plane into one of your landmarks"

2018-08-06 18:12:41 UTC

really thought that one through

2018-08-06 18:12:48 UTC

Diplomacy 100
Speech 100

2018-08-06 18:13:06 UTC

Inshallah

2018-08-06 18:13:48 UTC

@Legiondude I still haven't seen an archived version of that tweet
and it looks photoshopped

2018-08-06 18:15:19 UTC

also if they did make that original tweet they redid it without the plane

2018-08-06 18:15:42 UTC

Which the imgur image title says...

2018-08-06 18:17:28 UTC

@Legiondude wich is why I said I still haven't seen an archived version of that tweet

2018-08-06 18:17:55 UTC

You can write anything in an imgur title

2018-08-06 18:21:43 UTC

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-06 18:33:44 UTC

Lol Starship Troopers is older than he is.

2018-08-06 19:11:58 UTC

So I looked at the SPLC website and they have a Hate Tracker. Literally claims to be exposing alt-right twitter conversations. It's kind of worrying that such a dangerous group is making lists of presumably anyone that uses a MAGA hashtag.

2018-08-06 21:09:38 UTC

If anyone worndering about #ComicsGate, it's still a thing that's hilarious.

2018-08-06 21:10:08 UTC

I contributed to the cause by doing my part of owning a SJW that was out and about lying and being a victim for attention.

2018-08-06 21:10:24 UTC

Slapped her and her arguements, left and right.

2018-08-06 21:32:15 UTC

it fun to wach comicsgate and how they cant stand that 2 creators did make more money in under 6 month then they had made in last 15 years

2018-08-06 23:18:20 UTC

TO THE MEMERY!!

2018-08-06 23:21:27 UTC

@Nordhand Someone's so salty that we kept handing this texan cosplayer Renfamous a nonstop stream of L's, she muted me and then sent people to harrass and stalk me on my social media.

2018-08-06 23:21:33 UTC

Deadass, holmes.

2018-08-06 23:23:19 UTC

I'd post the screencap, but I've somehow went back down to being grey.

2018-08-06 23:23:31 UTC

I'll PM it to you, @Nordhand.

2018-08-06 23:25:35 UTC

yea they know they are failures in a dying industry and all the money is going to people much more charismatic than they ever are going to be

2018-08-06 23:26:00 UTC

I'm rolling because of how low-energy and cringey it is.

2018-08-06 23:26:20 UTC

Her twitter account is more successful than her instagram.

2018-08-06 23:26:24 UTC

Which is protected.

2018-08-06 23:26:57 UTC

I'm no hot shit myself, but I normally take a passive roll on Twitter while being more active on facebook.

2018-08-06 23:27:43 UTC

this lady apparently has been trying really hard to piss in the movement's corn flakes and can't take what she gives.

2018-08-06 23:28:45 UTC

most of them cant handle it when the shit comes in return

2018-08-07 00:54:05 UTC

what's worse is I got them to admit that they're now stalking me to try to annoy me.

2018-08-07 00:54:20 UTC

And it's as cringey as it looks.

2018-08-07 01:54:16 UTC

they're hooked

2018-08-07 01:54:19 UTC

keep at it

2018-08-07 01:56:21 UTC

@Achlys say less fam.

2018-08-07 01:56:27 UTC

I'm balls deep innt

2018-08-07 01:57:43 UTC

don't be a faggot, leaf

2018-08-07 01:57:58 UTC

So far, i've been able to get them to publicly admit:

They're harrassing me because tit's personal for them
They are not to be trusted
and they are coming for me because I'm an "easier" target to discredit than Diversity& Comics and Ethan.

2018-08-07 01:58:11 UTC

So many angry tweets, and so many reports.

2018-08-07 01:58:23 UTC

They're gonna end up getting themselves banned.

meh you weear your t-shirt, I'll wear mine

2018-08-07 12:34:57 UTC

https://youtu.be/rgNOzSvRa2M what happens to your company when you go woke

2018-08-07 14:44:47 UTC

I'm going to assume Sargon is now writing Neil Hamiltons scripts... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAb1p4DQreI&t=0s

2018-08-07 15:23:03 UTC

Newspapers: "Neil Hamilton quotes fascist science-fiction catchphrases in new membership video"

2018-08-07 15:35:59 UTC

he knows

2018-08-07 16:31:00 UTC

https://youtu.be/gB-kq9bvjbc a lawyer looks in the the legal part of the drama around the quartering

2018-08-07 16:32:37 UTC

@Nordhand Can I get a TL:DW?

2018-08-07 16:33:44 UTC

he better get some lube if it goes to court

2018-08-07 16:35:20 UTC

who better? victim or offender?

2018-08-07 16:35:29 UTC

offender

2018-08-07 16:35:57 UTC

did they ever get the security footage?

2018-08-07 16:36:52 UTC

atm that is not known, the police may have it and not saying shit

Source: I was attacked didn't bother with court

they needed to grab the dude then and there

after the fact doesn't work

CCTV is garbage, nothing beats tackling the dude and sitting on him and calling the Police

NOTHING <:covfefe:440543908846632980>

2018-08-07 16:46:26 UTC

tackle the dude and push a chair up his ass

2018-08-07 16:46:29 UTC

a whole chair

2018-08-07 16:47:13 UTC

well think the attacker did more or less admitt he was the guy behind it on sosial media before he did go dark and removed all his sosial media irr

I wasn't there and I understand they are Tabletop gamers

if one guy had sat on him

even a random dude that just goes to the bar

not one testicle in an entire bar

2018-08-07 17:01:29 UTC
2018-08-07 17:54:38 UTC

"If you were a black man in the 1950s, who would have a better chance at getting a job, you or a racist white man who hated black people?
The white man.
If you are a black man now, who would have a better chance at getting a job, you or a racist white man who hated black people?
You.
Therefore, you are not oppressed by racists."

2018-08-07 17:54:41 UTC

A good quote

2018-08-07 17:55:27 UTC

Nah, man, it's just reparations

He's taking the flak

so we can sneaky sneaky the real shit

<:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

Do you know what a pin cushion is?

2018-08-07 18:03:56 UTC

<:what:382980756139409409>

you are about to find out

2018-08-07 18:05:19 UTC

bottomless pit

2018-08-07 20:23:46 UTC
2018-08-07 21:18:00 UTC

Yes but no is all I have to say to that.
Facebook and friends are all platforms and not publishers. They are dancing on that line. If they go on to be publishers they lose, I assume the boards of these companies arent that stupid. They will change course soon enough. If they don't change course they will get sued out of existence.
To the point of they get massive tax breaks and the technology all comes from the military is true but that is also true for like 99% of things on the market. I don't have a huge problem with that. All these tech companies pay taxes. Probably not as much as they should but they pay taxes. Thats not even accounting for the people they employ and the shitton of taxes those people pay considering how well tech companies pay.
If you loophole them into more taxes they will leave and export the jobs they created elsewhere. It'll be the same story as exporting manufacturering to China. @Fitzydog

2018-08-07 21:18:41 UTC

Fair enough response

2018-08-07 21:18:50 UTC

I think he does make a few good points but I feel like the majority of what he says is almost fear mongering.

2018-08-07 21:19:04 UTC

The best one is the platform vs publisher

2018-08-07 21:19:14 UTC

And I 100% agree with him.

2018-08-07 21:19:42 UTC

That was mostly what I was showing it for

2018-08-07 21:20:01 UTC

Something I forget to mention in our conversation.

2018-08-07 21:20:17 UTC

I've heard the argument before just slipped my mind.

2018-08-07 21:39:21 UTC

Looks like this fight is gonna escalate

2018-08-07 21:39:36 UTC

I doubt Dankula's stance on not paying his fine no matter what has changed.

2018-08-07 21:59:28 UTC

Welp.

2018-08-07 21:59:45 UTC

Guess the UK's gonna jail a man for mocking the Nazis.

2018-08-07 21:59:57 UTC

That'll show the Nazis!

2018-08-07 22:06:31 UTC

if you want to see the inside of a chinse jail , pack a few bubbles in your luggage when you go there. they are not found of missionaries of any religion there and most get turned away at the border

2018-08-07 22:09:35 UTC

Bibles?

2018-08-07 22:10:59 UTC

Yep more persecution

2018-08-07 22:10:59 UTC

bibles are baned in china and smugling it will land you in jail

2018-08-07 22:16:30 UTC

Okay, so not bubbles

2018-08-07 22:36:09 UTC

but i like my bubbles

2018-08-07 22:49:53 UTC

Some people don't understand literature

2018-08-07 22:54:05 UTC

Uhhhh what the fuck?!

2018-08-07 22:54:44 UTC

I mean that poem was exactly for the banning of Alex Jones.

2018-08-07 22:55:05 UTC

Nuh uh!! That poem was against the Nazis!

2018-08-07 22:55:36 UTC

Kinda. It was the government implied in the poem. But social media giants also work.

2018-08-07 22:56:14 UTC

THEY'RE NOT THE NAZIS

2018-08-07 22:56:46 UTC

Ehhhhhhhhh

2018-08-07 22:56:50 UTC

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

2018-08-07 22:57:14 UTC

I want to argue that point but I am approaching the point where it's becoming almost indefensible

2018-08-07 23:36:36 UTC

It's not that the tech companies don't have taxes to pay it's that they use loopholes to not have ro pay them

2018-08-07 23:36:46 UTC

Make them pay what they are required by law to pay

2018-08-07 23:36:55 UTC

By the final intent of the law

2018-08-07 23:36:58 UTC

Close the loopholes

2018-08-07 23:37:00 UTC

Be done with it

2018-08-07 23:37:33 UTC

No, these states and cities literally give tax breaks in exchange for moving to their city.

2018-08-07 23:52:04 UTC

@Ruggwain the problem is you would need to completly redo the tax code for example Ford has an engine plant near me the point of that plant is to loose as much money as humanly possible on paper while manufacturing the engines that they need to distribute. This is why people wonder why youtube is still around when it looses so much money it is offsetting something else to reduce the tax burden of the company.

2018-08-07 23:54:06 UTC

Ffs America

2018-08-07 23:54:13 UTC

If your tax system is so fucked

2018-08-07 23:54:20 UTC

And the loopholes so deeply rooted

2018-08-07 23:54:30 UTC

That you'd need to overhaul your entire tax code to do it

2018-08-07 23:54:50 UTC

That's only more reason to do it

2018-08-07 23:55:08 UTC

Yeah, people say that all the time

2018-08-07 23:55:33 UTC

I wonder why <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2018-08-07 23:55:49 UTC

It won't ever be done

2018-08-07 23:56:04 UTC

The people in charge of writing the tax code benefit too much from it

2018-08-07 23:56:44 UTC

N i c e

2018-08-07 23:57:14 UTC

And the people in charge there are barely accountable

2018-08-07 23:58:09 UTC

That's what's called 'The Deep State', people in charge, who weren't elected, and stay in their position for decades

2018-08-08 01:28:22 UTC

Gotta say, the implosion of the UK is honestly really funny to watch from here in the US

2018-08-08 01:28:35 UTC

At long last, the American Revolution will be completed

2018-08-08 01:28:51 UTC

Are you proud of us, Founding Fathers? We are completing your work!

2018-08-08 01:29:17 UTC

Idk I am not a fan of losing our biggest and oldest ally

2018-08-08 01:29:23 UTC

>oldest ally

2018-08-08 01:29:25 UTC

That'd be France

2018-08-08 01:29:26 UTC

Morocco

2018-08-08 01:29:33 UTC

is our oldest ally

2018-08-08 01:29:34 UTC

The UK wasn't our ally until 1942

2018-08-08 01:29:42 UTC

WWI?

2018-08-08 01:29:49 UTC

We were associated powers, not allies, in WWI

2018-08-08 01:29:58 UTC

Relations between the Kingdom of Morocco and the United States date back to the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783). Morocco remains one of America's oldest and closest allies in North Africa, a status affirmed by Morocco's zero-tolerance policy towards Al-Qaeda and their affiliated groups.

2018-08-08 01:30:08 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic and admist their chaos, that's when we swoop in and **RAKE THE LEAVES**

2018-08-08 01:30:10 UTC

Basically co-belligerents, and in the 1920's we made our opposition to being called allies to the British VERY clear to them

2018-08-08 01:30:14 UTC

my bad one of our*

2018-08-08 01:30:24 UTC

@Deleted User WAR PLAN RED BOIS

2018-08-08 01:30:42 UTC

Take Australia and New Zealand too

2018-08-08 01:30:53 UTC

We need more bases in the pacific

2018-08-08 01:31:03 UTC

what about the weebs?

2018-08-08 01:31:13 UTC

Even if you call them one of our oldest allies, I find it disingenuous given 1) that we allied them 142 years after our last alliance, 2) the British had been working against us for some 150 years until that point, and 3) the USA in general tends to prefer not to have any allies at all

2018-08-08 01:31:53 UTC

So calling the British one of our oldest allies is actually moreso a reason to dump them than to keep them

2018-08-08 01:32:26 UTC

but you're forced to say "one of" because it's a gap more than half the time for which the US has even existed since our previous alliance

2018-08-08 01:33:42 UTC

Hell, even AS an ally they STILL found ways to work against us

2018-08-08 01:36:27 UTC

we gotta dump tea into the thames

2018-08-08 01:38:00 UTC

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