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hhaha
I bet he wears his kippa while he's having sex
@NightOwl
alt right is not one person, arent you an individualist? why are you generalising?
Ben "I like welfare as long as it is for Israel"Shapiro
welfare?
he's shitposting, settle
the US gives Isreal money but I don't know that it's marked as welfare, is it?
@Deleted User Richard Spencer is a leader of the movement
he represents the movement more than you do
@NightOwl oh so he is the leader now? i keep hearing new things about my own movement from you guys i never knew before
This devolved into the lefts Its bit real socialism
A not the
@Deleted User Richard Spencer literally claims to be the leader and as far as I have seen the media accepts that - so to 90%+ of everyone who's ever heard of the "alt-right" he's the defacto leader
people dont really like him. tbh
yeah no shit
@ฦตero within AR
well that's unfortunate
And who represents the AR better then?
@ฦตero i proclaim myself a leader of the alt right nao
@DanielKO people adore Jared Tailor
@Deleted User cool go tell the NY Times that and see if they'll do an article on you
Who recognizes you as any person of importance within the AR?
People don't like the alt-right, it's just a fringe group of nutters that have become known through left wing media
It's why at first nobody knew what it was
they thought it mean a new type of conservatism represented by Trump
I don't even know if the alt-right can be considerd a group. It's more of a concept now.
it's as much a group as people who like peanut butter is a group
maybe even less than that
@NightOwl fringe movement who is getting elected in europe? hell italian new PM is indatitarian
Europe is fucked beyond repair, it's inevitable the only ones trying to save it are the extremists now.
Dude Europe deserves worse
fuck Europe
Identitarianism isnt synoymous with the alt-right
identitarianism is more prevalent on the left
They are nationalist in Italy
lol
@NightOwl
"nutters"
what are your realistic solutions for US where whites will be inevitably a minority?
@Deleted User stop worrying about it?
You imply it is problem
why worry about race, worry about ideology
Well, culture.
but what say do I have, I'm half white and my kids are half asian
culture != race
Also
Have more white babies
you wuss
@NightOwl
>what is generation indentity movement
>what is indentity evropa
I know a half [black] etheopian half Japanese who's Jewish
indentity evropa is dead in the water
@ฦตero
yea because it worked very well. in Brazil.
What ideology? nonwhites mostly vote left
@franti
tell that to white south africans
So Slavs arent white?
@Deleted User well you're not going to get non-whites to vote right by excluding them
They inplemented communism
@ฦตero they always voted left no matter what
@Deleted User the fuck "no matter what". That's both defeatist and completely un-self-aware at the same time
Forgeting many nationalist movement in Africa
anyway, believe whatever you want and belong to whatever group you want - as long as you leave me alone and don't try to take away any of my freedoms you're fine with me
@ฦตero
they dont change, besides voting hispanics and whites are overpresented in crime, welfare use and they dont contribute with taxes as much as whites
race dominates political discussion
It's why politics is cancer right now
not only that it givves ammo to the left
The longer they are in the US
They get better
Because decent people (not like you) will always be associated with racism
@NightOwl
well yea in a multiracial society race will dominate political discussion
@Deleted User I don't actually care, but just saying if you want them to vote right then starting/joining an identitarian movement that tells them not to mix with you isn't going to win them over
@NightOwl
define racism
there there is a moral or genetic significance to a group of people based on aesthetics or lineage
@ฦตero again, they never voted left, you think republicans didint pandered them before?
oops
Race means very little
@Deleted User pandering and standing for something that's in someones interest are different things
@franti
i have data too
it's not something you choose. People should be judged on their values
on the their choices in life
I would much rather live with black people that have shared values than white nationalists
this conversation has gotten mind-numbingly dull. So let me just say one thing before I leave: Asian pussy is delicious and white women are annoying.
I can respect that
@NightOwl well go live in a most diverse area then
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Go live in a white community then
@franti
"A reminder that you and BLM are on the same page"
alt lite and globalists are on the same page
@franti
4 generations! by that time US will be completely nonwhite
Muh white genes
Mexicans In The U.S. Are Sending Home More Money Than Ever
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/02/10/514172676/mexicans-in-the-u-s-are-sending-home-more-money-than-ever
Same goes for other imigrant groups
Nigerians
People from ghana
@franti whats same goes?
@Deleted User That's not surprising. In American, German used to be a very popular language and it was only when the progressives make it illegal to teach in any other language other than English.
"Economists who have analyzed local labor markets have mostly failed to find large effects of immigrants on employment and wages of U.S.-born workers (see Borjas 2006;...)"
https://sites.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/publications/working%20papers/Mariel2015.pdf
@franti ISIS started in Iraq didint they?
Yes
@franti
keep in mind that english is useful language because its abundantly used on the internet
Until the war, you had german newspapers running in the US
but its not really about the language, gypsies live in eastern europe for hundreds of years, speak the language and they still havent properly integrated
@NightOwl its funny cause nonwhites in US much more strongly are connected to their racial indentity
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does the academic agent have a discord?
yes
do you know where i can get an invite?
@Deleted User CIS is not a peer reviewed journal
https://www.cato.org/blog/center-immigration-studies-exaggerates-immigrant-welfare-use
Here's a response
The main issue is that using household as a unit instead of an individual
For example, imagine a family with a legal immigrant and an american wife
Their child likely has lunch as school
That's considered as the entire family using welfare and being immgrant
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@franti and cato cites fake research
https://archive.li/wolpF
This study was peer reviewed before the suspect sampling sizes were found
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I wonder if there were historically any nazi bolsheviks?
Hooly crap there *ARE* such peole NAO!
It's like someone woke up one morning and thought to themselves: "What if we combine two of the worst historical doctrines into one?" and then actually made it
@Deleted User https://www.cgdev.org/blog/what-mariel-boatlift-cuban-refugees-can-teach-us-about-economics-immigration
this is peer reviewed
CIS isnt
@franti i already told you that cato also cites literally fake research
This one isnt from CATO
ughh i misread
Also Yes Cato got this wrong
Sure, but that's a very separate topic altogether
I agree that the SPLC is not a reliable source on extremism
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Isnt it funny they always cite borjas?
<:kermit_wat:378719408534716426>
Its the one outlier
its always borjas for wages
camarota for welfare use
<:think_woke:378717098681171988> Mornin assholes what's up
woah
Oh, did you get promoted franti?
Isn't that illegal in canada
eat a dick greyfag
<:think_madpepe:378717098630971395>
:)
yup
Granted, welfare use may be a legit argument
But in the long term, if you have an aging society, you want young people's whose children will grow to be high-skilled/high-educated
So make more white babies
mmm
Even us white folks have our trash
We just need to go full eugenics <:think_woke:378717098681171988>
Natural selection doesn't eliminate the soyboi subhuman trash fast enough <:feels:382980733037445152>
Unfortunately the Noah Smith article on that study is behind a paywall
@franti societies experienced aging population before, what you want to do is flood developed countries with the third world immigrants and turn them into third word at the end
@franti ha Noah smith blocked me on twitter
wonder why
maybe because he does that when ppl call out his BS
lol
oh
nice on the promotion
I'm blocked by him too
Is he another steve shives william legate kinda soy
Can't remember this person much
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@franti
>make more white babies
unrealistic solution, it cant help but in reality whites wont achieve birth levels high enough
i could say you should magically turn leftists into libertarians, unrealistic
I dont care
You are paranoid
I showed you there is enogh to counter the shit you spewed
@franti and i already responded
and i will respond more later
If it from borjas dont bother
He is the odd one out
what?
I noticed this is the guy
He gets cited all the time when this comes up
At least from 5 different people
Always the same guy
so?
This one guy suport you
The others seem to differ
so?
An immigration inflow equal to 1% of a city's population is associated with increases in average rents and housing values of about 1%. The results suggest an economic impact that is an order of magnitude bigger than that found in labor markets.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009411900600074X
You can relax the zoning laws
This creates the restrictions on how many houses you can build
why is there zoning laws in the first place?
Mostly for envirometal protection
Also it helps to drive prices up for real estate moguls
There's a lot of economic reasons why residential zones are limited. As zones get bigger, the cost of maintenance and support increases proportionally. Roads, parks, infrastructure, sewage, water etc...
<:think_woke:378717098681171988>
Most metropolitan areas are deep blue
very zoned
very regulated
and as such, the supply is slower to react
I have no knowledge of australian economy
```The bottom line is that running a high immigration program requires massive investment and costs a lot, and these costs are borne to a large extent by the incumbent population.
Therefore, if you want wages to be reduced, traffic congestion to get worse, to pay more for utilities and housing, and to see the environment get degraded, then continue with current mass immigration settings. But if you care about maintaining Australian living standards, then immigration needs to be slashed to sensible and sustainable levels.```
Looks convincing, although its unconventional economist โข
If they're fleeing a country that violates their human rights, then the country should be colonized by a civilized country.
The UK could do with a revenue bump... The Anglosphere could do with a boost in numbers...
Yeah of Anglos
@DanielKO colonization without dealing w the colonized people seems to end poorly
I thought dealing with the colonized people was the problem, generally?
Depends on your morals
Itโs real easy to deal w them if you have no morals, or at least a different moral system than most Whites do today
True.
It is important to note that looking at wage growth for all workers is not certain too
Given that the recession slowed down wage growth for almost all non-super upper class people
Almost all developed economies, both high immigration and low immigration are having higher productivity and lower wage growth
Dad Rock weeew
A lot of that is heavily correllated to the transition from a manufacturing to an intellectual developing economy.. Which is happening in most Western countries...
I'm just following the logical steps from the left.
If it's inhumane to send the immigrants back to their shitholes, then somebody has to un-shithole the shithole.
Therefore, they're pro-colonization.
Unless they believe shitholes should remain shitholes, in which case they're racists.
It depends if sending them back is actually inhumane, doesn't it?
That's what leftists are saying, right? That deporting illegal immigrants is a violation of their human rights.
If they're economic migrants, then it wouldn't be illegal to deport them, I would think.
I'd be curious to know what they are basing that on.
Morally, is it right to pull people on to a lifeboat, if pulling more people on will increase the change of capsizing the lifeboat?
"Immigrating to the USA for a better life is a human right!"
Also...
"The USA is the most racist, bigoted, sexist, rapey, gun-violence-ridden country in the world!"
There is a clear dissonance there...
"lets go get oppressed"
I was oppressed once... I got better...
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Which human right? Half the problem is 'they' don't seem to understand what a 'Human Right' actually is...
A smart phone is a human right!
As long as it isn't an iPhone
^
This.
As far as I can tell, โhuman rightsโ donโt exist except that which you can guarantee for yourself. Nature has no โhuman rights,โ they are by definition a social construct
Anyone here good at making high quality gifs? I've uploaded some 4k Starship Troopers clips that can be turned in to gifs..
GIFs can't be super high quality.
Receiving housing, food and a job from the government, is apparently a human right.
There's limitations.
In the file size.
rip
Nobody uses gifs these days.
Loads of people do.
For Discord Nitro pfps.
/gif/ uses webm.
You gey.
That's what sets the standard.
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Humour boys.
If you want webm with sound, use streamable.com.
>link about terrible liberals yet the link name doesnโt include rope
Sad!
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