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it's like theyre doing mental gymnastics on 6 hits of acid
^
The romans used to have sex with men for fun, and women for children
"Buddhists are now praising Muhammad and praying to Allah 5 times a day more often, study reveals"
I was speaking with a national-socialist once and was convinced homosexuality was taught
he siad it came from marxism
i'm perfectly willing to believe him ๐
"pedophilia is ok, because the romans did it"
<:think_woke:378717098681171988>
Fireweaver
I'm talking about roman soldiers with roman soldiers
not pederasty
that's really ahistorical
a lot of early marxists thought homosexuality was a symptom of "bourgeois decadence"
marxism is just bourgeois decadence
^
thats because marxists are wrong about everything
pin
<:think_woke:378717098681171988>
Yaron is my nig
how is marxism bourgeois decadence
marxism is a result of the bourgeois becoming too fat and lazy because they have no actual issues, so they have to invent their own problems
are you saying it's the bourgeoisie advocating for their own overthrow or what
``Left Book Club`` my how times have changed
the bourgeoisie don't consciously advocate for their own overthrow, it's just part of their unconscious bias because they have not had to suffer any real hardships
I would argue the modern marxist is the bourgeoisie
where are all of these capitalists who push marxism
and has been in britain for the past century
@NightOwl I would argue the same
based on what
i don't think that like bill gates or jeff bezos or elon musk are marxists
are they middle class?
the link I've just sent
no, they aren't
they're bourgeois
or do you not understand what "bourgeois" means?
they are capitalists
Jordan Peterson talked about this actually
let me find a link
no, they are the middle class
they were under feudalism
under capitalism they became the dominant class
and when I was politically activist I found a lot of middle class people to be marxist
^
you don't find marxist leaning opinions in working class media either
like the sun
you find in papers like the guardian
which working class people do not read
because the upper class have responsibilities and the lower classes actually work @NightOwl
in the west you don't sure
Wait is sargon even on this server?
We're all Sargon
I am Sargon
@Seetor nope
What's the point then
what's the point of life?
what's the point of anything?
praising someone like otoya yamaguchi as a liberal seems strange
considering he was a japanese imperialist who despised liberalism
>taking shit seriously
>not being a total faggot
**Seetor#2115** was cleansed from the server.
lol
@Deleted User who was the least evil commie dictator in your opinion
none of them
they all made their countries worse
also it depends and what you count as a "dictator"
because most of the post-stalin rulers of the USSR were better than most communist dictators
stalin was the least evil politician of the 20th century period as he had the largest net positive impact on the world
and look, the communist trap is opening their mouths again
But least evil, that doesnt make them not evil
who would you say?
Fact: Communism caused the holocaust
@versterven stop it, get some help
nazis started it, communists ended it
if commies never existed, they're wouldn't be a holocaust
why
@Deleted User because no nazi's?
@Scipio Americanus the only remedy to communism is a free helicopter ride
marxists also very anti-semetic
and racist
Marxism=not a great plan
if liberalism never existed would there have been a holocaust
boy do those commies, *loooove* race wars
If @versterven was aborted, the world would be a better place
now that's not the question i asked
one less commie to use the world's resource
@versterven are you defending communism in Sargon community? are you insane?
@Scipio Americanus they're a tankie
they think stalin dindu nuffin wrong
aka fucking retarded
@Deleted User oh ***T-34 INTENSIFIES***
russian bias reeeee
stalin did make mistakes
he was too soft
open up that mouth of yours you communist whore
mistakes are inexcusable
wow, are you trolling?@versterven
@Scipio Americanus no, they're serious
that's why you can't suffer commies to live
*jaw drops*
the only good commie is a dead one
@versterven deserves a nice helicopter ride
open your whore mouth for me @versterven
come on
**OPEN**
fireweaver
Peter Hitchens made a good point iirc in his debatewith George Galloway that Nazis wouldnt have come ot power if it wasnt for marxist socialism
what is the reasoning behind that owl
@versterven is white middle class faggot, who has never gotten laid and never will get laid
It's natural that marxists try to bat these claims away, as it presents itself as a liberating and benevolent altnerative. Despite the horrors of it.
girls dont like commie boys
@M4Gunner you mean soyboys?
i mean i'm wondering if there is reasoning for this "nazism wouldn't have existed without marxism" thing that wouldn't also apply to liberalism
@Scipio Americanus glorious
lol
@Deleted User need an umbrella category
marty robbins is great
he's a real american celebrity
ever notice how marxists can't create anything of value?
<:think_woke:378717098681171988>
you have no idea how loud im playing this rn
lol
its 1am
i dunno i think lung cancer vaccines are pretty cool
the unprecedented speed at which the ussr industrialized was neat too
we'll get that when the Don overthrows Cuba
tetris is nice
tetris is dope
laser eye surgery is cool
but so is Puyo Puyo
because of communism, alexei pajitnov didnt get good pay for tetris
^
communism is gay
I'd be in favour of marxists collectively organising their own societies but they don't want to
They enjoy what capitalism has to offer
elexei deserved so much more for his contribution to gaming. the man is a legend
"Let me list off a bunch of things that I think marxists made" - @versterven
also, his game reflects the futility of communism itself
what do you mean think
endless toil leading to inevitable failure
open ur purty mouth @versterven
Let me shove my M1 down there, 76mm wide
lol
use the 17 pounder
ooof
for that extra **G I R T H**
```43% of millennials, or at least those between ages 18 and 29, view socialism more favorably than capitalism, ```
while that statistic seems nice a lot of them are probably thinking of social democracy when they say socialism
remember kids, it's not rape if you do it to a marxist subhuman
soc-dems are socialists
(they're asking for it anyway, since they're all unfuckable incels)
in what way owl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWo4A49pzOs found the other one (song by nazi scum)
```Definition of social democracy. 1 : a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means.```
that's what it used to mean
semantics and moving the goalpost
usually people who advocate for that would call themselves democratic socialists now
hmmmmm
it still means that
democracy is for plebs, rep republics is where its at
no i think modern social democrats tend to advocate for welfare capitalism with some essential industries and services being publically owned
@versterven thats not socialism
you're thinking os social-liberals
yeah that's my point
they're wrong
social-liberalism promotes free market capitalism, welfarism, and some state interventions
>communist whore
>pulling some social engineering stunt
<:think_woke:378717098681171988>
the line between modern socdems and soclibs is blurry
not all promote (free) market though
the ordoliberals did
probably the best known social-liberals
soc-dems are faggots, soc-lib are mild faggots
Soc-dems are against capitalism
yeah i don't think modern socdems are opposed to capitalism
most parties in britain are soc-dem
Green, lib-dems, Labour, SNP
girls only like boys who are kapitaliste
trust me
so you think the lib-dems are anti-capitalist?
"yeah I don't think"
the lib-dems are more concerned with equality than they are markets
muh fee fees
they call themselves social-liberals
and if you read their manifestos, they want to give everyone free access to university level education
**everyone**
so what
i mean what suggests that they are anti-capitalist
So they are soc-dems
yeah but you said that social democracy is anti-capitalist
so why do you believe that the libdems are opposed to capitalism
because of free college?
why are you such a faggot @versterven ?
is it because you never got laid?
you sad, lonely incel
please don't go shoot up a school, because of your sexual frustrations
Ok.if we want to get into the history of the lib-dems they are split by lib-dems but a majority are soc-dems
they came out of the SDP
so a majority are opposed to capitalism
they merged with liberals, some call them orangebook libs
and if you look at the SDP it was ex-labour people
Roy Jenkins being the best example
would you say that tim farron, for example, is a socdem and therefore opposed to capitalism?
hmm
I'm not sure
would you agree with the characterization of countries like norway and sweden and finland as being social democracies?
nah, they just like welfare
and sweden has a cuck fetish
i mean if not it seems like you're using the term in a very idiosyncratic manner
like basically more or less if we look at how the term "social democrat" has been used in the past it did refer to movements that at least had the pretense of being marxist, but over time the term has taken on the meaning of describing a political position that is not necessarily anti-capitalist, generally today we would call the modern equivalent of old school socdems democratic socialists, whereas social democracy would just refer to people who still want to maintain liberal democracy and capitalism but are relatively left leaning and advocate for a strong social safety net and public ownership of key industries and such
a mosquito landed on my vape and i tried to kill it with a butterknife but it landed injured in peanut butter and drowned
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Internet cut off
I dont know if they are or not.
but
```The Nordic model (also called Nordic capitalism or Nordic social democracy) ```
``` corporatist system involving a tripartite arrangement where representatives of labor and employers negotiate wages and labor market policy mediated by the government```
most economies are mixed
Anyone has an opinion on James Allsup?
He feels suspiciously ethno-nationalist at times.
is he 'alt-right'?
meaning does he describe himself as such?
or iis he an ethnonationalist
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So what do you fellas make of the idea that the authoritarian left are trying to normalize pedophilia?
they are?
I've heard a few claims that they are. The evidence usually used to "prove" this is how the alt-left approve of identity politics like "trans age"
They just can't help themselves. Progress stops for nothing
Is kiddy fucking really "progress"? <:think_madpepe:378717098630971395>
Well they need some mission
it has to be Social.
Got Gay marriage, Got equality for Women. Wot next?
Anyone wanna explain to me the ban that happened last night?
trolling?
HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
What next is we'll screech at the top of our lungs that being a Pedo is a sexuality the same as being straight or gay
If we ever reach that stage...
I'm going to get into physics and rocket science to make the ultimate nuke and wipe out the human race.
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