But iirc the bodies of Hitler, Eva, and the Goebbels family were burned within a day or so of each other in the courtyard and buried in the same hole, so that's a pretty big pile of ashes.

i tend not to trust the soviets, they are known for manipulating history

i mean at this point does it even matter if bin laden is dead?

the shitshow has exceeded him

I mean, they might have it

They probably just have a lot of other ashes in there as well if we're talking about the same pile of ashes

the whole bin laden thing was underwhelming

@M4Gunner <:shap:497652686603288576>

yeah stalin was a real jerk

at least hitler cared about his people

^

u talking about the new marvel hero? 👍🏿

i mean from a moral standpoint sure, but from a practical standpoint like how much more money are you going to throw at it

well hitler's ball is somewhere so they know his dna

I mean they definitely killed at least a couple heads of ISIS after that

i've been watching the greatest story never told, it kinda puts things into better perspective for me
doesnt make the nazis the good guys, but it sort of makes sense why they did what they did, instead of just "they're evil"

in war it's easy to call the enemy 'bad guys'

but war makes monsters of us all

true dat

It's not rape if you do it to a jap <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

oh that was a GRRM quote, i figured it came from somewhere more profound

Hitler was enlisted

do you guys think without ww2 soviet union would've collapsed anyway?

You think the Prussians would let an upstart Austrian into the officer corps?

it was definitely because of ww1 and everything that came with

@TrunksBish its a shame more soviets didn't perish

he made it all the way to cpl

wouldn't it initiate war itself then, from its nature of politics?

soviets were probably too paranoid to ever survive for long

like a body attacking itself

it has to have a target, just like nazism

the boudoir

Bouziou

the bergjuice

So leukemia ? @gary underwood

Actually I think that's appropriate comparison for the left

They're leukemia

stupid french and their stupid spelling

that's offensive to people named luke tho

We need to de-Frenchify English

||I have a favourite nazi and his name is Ernst Röhm||

|| Hans || + || Rommel || = || Handsome Romance ||

The Nazis did some cool stuff with ancient anthropology.

We're just now accepting that they were right on a lot of stuff relating to Indo-europeans

without france saving your butt, you'd be talking queen's english now

tanks like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518529119286329355/570269455179972622/IMG_20190423_101048_642.jpg

https://youtu.be/KYV3t9U6Bog?t=123 what the fuck i just found a clip (gotta be dozens of yrs old i guess?) in a compilation of Bernie saying open borders is what the right wing, so not him, wtf, how old is this and WHAT HAPPEND <:shap:497652686603288576>

that might be pz iv J or later

Stepped driver plate suggests it's a model D or F upgraded multiple times to late model standards

@Legiondude which model is the one in your pfp

Wargaming drew an early G

Meanwhile,
https://gots-clan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PzIVHydrostatic2-1024x556.jpg

Uhhh

What the hell is that

Panzer IV with a Hydrostatic drive

Currently my favorite tank in WoT

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi-germany/panzer-iv-mit-hydrostatischem-antrieb/

Der FlaKBus

Der FlakenWagen

@Legiondude what's your favorite Allied tank?

@galesteppes Hmmm, I'm split on which Sherman to pick

legion, you gotta be a brave boi, or i won't respec u

its spelled respecc actually

you nerd

M4A3(76) W HVSS is one of my choices

But Jumbo was also considered to get HVSS too....and it can mount 76's

Eh, I'll stick with production models. So Easy 8 wins

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518529119286329355/572482215930494976/image0.jpg

Stug

afg 3

http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m4a3e2jumbo/3083021_T33.jpg

Jumbo with flamethrowers and HVSS, what could have been

idiot turret

shh

i'm guessing the same way as in sherman crocodile

Churchill Crocodile was the bees knees

I'm a sucker for the Ram tank and the Kangaroo derivative, the little subturret it has really pleases me for some reason.

@M4Gunner Hunnicutt cites that it had 250 gallons of fuel stored between two tanks in the lower hull and two in the turret

ive never been a fan o brits, but the Churchill Crocodile was the shiz

@M4Gunner No, murican but I am a sucker for excessive MG armament

Looks like the two turret tanks were situated on either side of the commander's seat

Churchill Crocodile had the best k/d ratio

Mmmmm

Light tank flamethrowers are nice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518529119286329355/559778278668238859/300px-Skink_SPAAG.png

@TwinVickers tf is that

spaag based on a sherman.

Well the tanks he was right beside were connected to a periscope oriented flamethrower

looks like hvss too

looks like someone farted in a sherry

Think remote control MG like on modern abrams, but with fire

storming Japan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skink_anti-aircraft_tank

oh it was vvss

Open top you say?

https://i.redd.it/240m09d1deu01.jpg

Weren't they considering a variant of the Sherman with either 6 or 8 .50 cals at one point?

Patton wanted all the guns

No

I will never understand the MGMC series of vehicles

But he did recommend new Shermans should be loaded with tons of machine guns

Patton is over rated

Or, CGMC, rather

Yeah, but they have different ballistics

Yeah, my bad lol

germans should of made Stug3afg's and they might of won

MGMC is a great series

CGMC is wildly optimistic

Monty was righ, in theory

@M4Gunner Mk1 tanks

@M4Gunner the M2 and M3 would completely agree with you, down to the fixed machineguns in the hull.

Why they didn't at least put them in ball mounts is beyond me

for AA, even in WW2, autocannons were really a requirement

yanks and russians won in quantity, germans had the quality

I mean, they already have like 7 crew in the M3 so it's not that big a deal

German quality was oversold and they had built in alot of inefficiencies due to Nazi ideology blinding them

Krupp and Rheinmetall literally thought they had ballistic science solved back in 1935

ugh. nit picking

There was an attempt to simplify with the Vereinfachtemturm, but it never survived

They had a decent turret shape, but they never figured out how to get the most out of their hull armor.

marder 2

Yeah, Marders are great

Marder III is best

What, you don't like standing on the engine deck?

wait. are u talking about a game

Even the Jagd 38t?

Over the Marder?

Hell yeah

Hetz is best

o.O

Anything on the 38t chassis is a soft spot for me

http://i.imgur.com/17E2IED.jpg

There we go

It's a chaffee, surprisingly

Same chassis, so close

pzr3 in to a marder 2

I'm burning out on warthunder a bit, but want to enjoy the French line a bit more

Wish it was more fleshed out

what game is hits

Oh, I gave up on that

world of tanks?

War thunder.

I don't play air enough to put that much effort in

I wish I got the VFW though

The option to put the side screens up or down is a nice bonus on it

and the FlaK 43 is also great on its own

Shit, I forgot to check if it gets proximity shells

Invincible to brits, then

They can stay in hell with their refusal to use APHE

I do still want the ZIS LVT, though.

Yeah, I wish I had more of them

Or any armored cars, really

ooh

That would be nice

I could also go for an actual floating Ka-Mi

@M4Gunner Because balance and they want everyone to have popguns at tier 1

It needs the boat attachment parts

Yeah, it swims in as a boat and then the boat parts fall off

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Amph_tank_%28AWM_099057%29.jpg

No worries, it's not obvious in any way

Yeah, but it gets up to 10 km/h in the water and isn't that big

Much lower in the water than an LVT

Probably

I think it could be done in WT with existing mechanics, the VFW has the option to fold the skirts and the BMP can be amphibious or not depending on if add on armor is attached.

I'm gradually becoming disillusioned with the chaffee

Getting a lot of ricochets

Doesn't it get 360 traverse with them down?

Is it at a half decent speed?

Oh, that's acceptable to me

Been a while bane

Where have you been?

I've been pissing about on politics servers

Did you hear about danks?

And then realized there was no reason to do that

Yep

If there were more Armored cars and halftracks in WT I would be over the moon

At it is not being able to get the AEC drives me batty

Having to settle for the AA version sucks ass

Oh, I mean I'd even go for the m2/3 with 37mm gun

Just more high mobility vehicles at low tiers would be nice

M2 w/ M3 37 mm

Hey, I'm a sucker for barely viable vehicles

Some more sdkfz250/251 chassis vehicles would be nice as well

Or just the holy grail of the sdkfz 222

having the 221 is such a cocktease

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faiZhxIq6gM
hmm

10 hrs you say

@banestrum you're a fan of the leda then?

@M4Gunner Well, it's got a 20mm so I suppose

@galesteppes The what now?

@banestrum shitty soviet car

@galesteppes Oh, you mean the ones with the tank turret?

I love those things

I can't

They have the AEC, which I'm a sucker for

The american ones are nice but all kinda the same

I could really go for a panhard with 25mm at gun.

That'd be a lot of fun at low ranks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_178

That one

Anything for more ballistic variety at this point

Well, the different ammo types are somewhat superfluous on some guns that have a few clearly superior rounds.

France has the opposite problem of only regular ap or regular he

Oi cunts. Just jumped on here to say Gluten notts.

🐒

I have been enjoying the b1 ter

Fun to use it as an oversized cavalry tank

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3NAVN6cNUE
Yooo jdm got noticed

**"If not me, who? If not now, when?" - Hillel the Elder**

@M4Gunner what about the eland mk7 that the Rhodesians used (originally South African built and based on a Panhard design) well built and effective, 90mm gun on a small and mobile chassis that was used to great affect

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eland_Mk7

The Gibraltar news interview has to be up there for NPC’ness 🙈

Haven't seen it yet what all happened?

Just the usual bs?

It’s comical

The woman must be reading from a sheet

She literally asks questions and gives 0 input outside of them

It seems nowadays ‘if’ you ‘could’ had said or wrote something that ‘could’ potentially offend someone on the planet you’re forced to apologise and take back the statement 🙈

I feel bad for NPC’s because they will never learn to code 😢

@galesteppes Where?

They will never feel that sense of satisfaction when hello world appears on screen for the first time

@Legiondude like a couple minutes in

he read jdm's superchat

Ooof

watching sargon's live stream from last night. someone donated £100 to him in the chat 😮

"if you replace 'far right' with 'working class' it all makes so much sense"

yup

lol. milo is going to be with him in plymouth

that little plymouth

Haven’t heard of milo in a long long time

that's because deplatforming works <:pepe_smug:560207654207750154>

deplatforming works - but then again, so does murder.

doesn't mean it's good.

i don't think that analogy works

why not?

it's an example of an oppressive action that of course achieves it's aim, but is immoral

there are lots of things that "work" and appear to solve a problem from a certain viewpoint, but are immoral. that is the analogy i was making

murder accomplishes nothing but murder, it's the cause and effect at the same time

silencing your opposition silences your opposition

as an analogy something that's little less permanent might work better, like captivity

right i see what you mean - but it doesn't mean my analogy fails

my point still stands

silencing your opposition makes them quiet but not non-existant

fair enough, i wasn't arguing your point

ah

i'm all about the semantics man

got it

see, it just annoys me when lefties use the fact that "it works" as a reason to justify it

so i'm saying, you can use that argument for a lot of stuff

slavery works

how's that? it's not permanent

you can be freed