one sec brb

i think the regulars are pretty chill

whats not to trust?

most of the people

Australians

Does anyone else get a weird feeling in their butt when you drink alcohol or is that just me? <:pepe_smile:378719407977005068>

That would include non regulars too

no, but i have gotten it when smoking weed, like i'm gonna poo or something

I get like a tingly feeling

I ate right before drinking would that be my problem

i already mentioned that radeon

Eating before drinking does make it harder to get drunk

also you spaced out 1 bottle of 7% alcohol over several hours

@radeon Eating before drinking makes you less drunk

I meant that I think you're good people, but I'll still exhibit caution

you might as well be drinking water

I don't think half the people in Arena are good

Yea but I drank like a quarter at once

thats like one beer

also if you smoked, it might distract from actually feeling drunk

you might be drunk and not really feel it

When I used to smoke it used to be the opposite for me, I'd feel the drunk feeling but no matter how much I smoked I couldn't get high

or couldn't feel it at least

yeah i have had that too

i have had times where i drank a lot and never felt drunk

without weed

it's weird, like it never hits you

you just get tired

I have as well but that was when I was basically going through a phase of being an alcoholic lol

yeah i went through that

drinking literally every day from the moment I woke up till the moment I went to sleep

buying cheap boxed wine because it was the most alcohol for the money

lol

i never was a morning drinker, but day drinking for sure

at my peak I was drinking a bottle of vodka a day

now i drink a few times a year maybe

I was drinking like 170oz/5L of wine a day I think

And threw in like 10 shots of vodka here and there

to try increase the effects

I had a period of time where I got high way too often, and I just kind of stopped altogether one day outside of social settings

you must have been pissing constantly lol

Yep hahaha

But like you

I don't at all drink often anymore

I'm able to control it like it's nothing now

Same with smoking

5L a day, Jesus holy.

yeah i had a few bad/embarrassing experiences and i finally got tired of the hangovers, so one day i just stopped

@Chloé Adsolution My drinking is what i used to get off smoking lol, I transitioned from smoking all the time and drinking sometimes, to only drinking every day, to eventually only drinking every month or every few months and only smoking a couple of times a year (like new years).

and even when I drink now, the few times I do, I don't really drink to get drunk

I just get tipsy and it's good enough for me

most of the time

I pretty much only drink to get drunk

i started just drinking every now and then with friends, and then it slowly built over several years to the point where i was just drinking alone, and watching youtube, dark times man, dark times

Yeah, that's really shitty.

Once you get to the point where you're doing it yourself everyday doing, well, exactly that, it's terrible.

it's so gradual that you dont really notice you have a problem until you really have a problem

That was my weed experience

Usually related to depression or anxiety

self treatment

Mine was weirdly quick though, I started to fall into that pit, wallowed in it, and came out of it within the span of 2-3 months.

thats good

I had this ritual where every night after I got home from work I'd smoke a cigarette then get high, then a few hours later smoke another then get higher, then smoke another then get higher, then sleep and repeat

When I was drinking every single day or smoking every single day at points, it wasn't to get drunk really it was to get back to the base level of what had become the new "normal" for me.

I haven't had a single cigarette since I pulled out of that

It felt like me being drunk or high was my natural state

and sober was unusual

yeah i know what that is like @Ϻ14ᛟ

i still need to quite cigarettes

I luckily never felt that

I always found tobacco to be the easiest thing for me personally to just give up because it had no real altering affects like weed or alcohol

For me it was just trying to recapture the magic of this one night I had with it a while ago, every single night, and continuously failing and trying again, for months straight, and I totally ruined it for myself.

@Chloé Adsolution I had a bad weed habit too, and then i stopped smoking weed and a year late got into the alcohol. I never really got back into weed, it made me too paranoid

I feel like the negative effects are very downplayed nowadays

of weed

yeah

Definitely

everyone knows how bad alcohol and tobacco is

It went from the bad sides overplayed or made up

to the downsides being downplayed

alcohol did nothing wrong

But a lot of the downsides are very person to person

Say you have an anxiety disorder

Yeah, it's very personal

Weed can either dramatically help it or utterly ruin you

weed gives me existential dread

I only took it once and had a panic attack and couldn't speak for like 5 hours.

Like full on hallucinating that everyone could hear my thoughts

That happened to my friend when I tried to introduce it to her

Her boyfriend was not happy with me lol

weed just makes you want to keep smoking weed. I went on a long camping trip once and picked up some weed half way through, and did nothing but lay around and smoke. and after it was gone, i just kept thinking about how much i wanted some more weed. It put a damper on that part of the trip

Other people are perfectly fine and actually get better wth it

Well it does feel pretty good for a lot of people

It's not technically addicting but as with anything that feels good, you want more of it

(technically addicting in the physical dependency sense)

yeah

There isn't really a strong withdrawal

caffeine has a stronger withdrawal

```weed just makes you want to keep smoking weed. I went on a long camping trip once and picked up some weed half way through, and did nothing but lay around and smoke. and after it was gone, i just kept thinking about how much i wanted some more weed. It put a damper on that part of the trip```That depends too. After I recovered, I don't feel that at all anymore. Whenever I get high on occasion now, I'm totally satisfied with being completely sober for the next few days.

its mental

It can also cause things like nerve disorders and bring on mental health issues like schizophrenia faster though. As well as lung problems, heart problems, etc. I have been diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat because of the constant smoking because it raises your heartrate so dramatically and so high, then it drops, then you raise it back up again, repeat. Especially with the amount I smoked at the time.

Also if you're under like 20 you pprobably shouldn't mess with it

Well, a caveat there

If you have schizophrenia

I first smoked weed at 18

a drug trip can trigger it

so if you're undiagnosed you can have your first episode when you smoke weed

I had the opportunity to do it earlier, just never did

I started at like 17

Didn't become a daily thing for me though until like last year

@obrallaghan yeah, nowadays if i smoke it feels like when Frodo puts on the ring and everything gets dark and scary. fuck that shit

I know a girl who got *fucking destroyed* when she took some drug(I want to say LSD, but it might have been heroin)

She already had the disorder but it finally got triggered for the first time

and hit her like a train

I've definitely had a few totally batshit deathly weed highs

Got schizoid personality disorder, dissociative personality disorder(changes names like every 3 months)

Only recently(like 4 years after it started) has gotten better.

brb

That shit isn't exactly common but it's something to watch out for.

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I am in no way anti-weed, in fact I want it legalized and sold and amnesty for people who are in prison for it.

oldie but goodie

In the end, for me, exercise has become my daily drug. It gives you rushes of adrenaline and after you are exhausted it is similar to a drug-feeling effect.
Then I just smoke a couple times a year - if that, and drink every couple months or so.

In high school i smoked so much that i genuinely believe i developed psychosis. I got over though, eventually

But any mind altering substance has the potential to fuck up fragile people and mess with childhood development.\

For example, ADHD is a real thing and many people need both drugs and therapy to cope with it

Especially in modern society.

I'm not even that mad.

But you shouldn't throw a ton of drugs at kids all at once.

For all that money spent into documenting they're obese.

Dont you know, depression aint real

but we have to know WHY

3.5 mil is a drop in the bucket as far as taxes go

I figure that 3.5 million went into more than just specifically lesbians.

and honestly obesity is such a problem I think it's fine to research it as much as possible.

50 billion to find out if traps are gay

This shit needs to go

We spend more to train one squad of soldiers

Only 3.5m to be able to claim dykes are fat, it's science, bitches.

oh and like

depression isn't *one* disease.

It can be extreme sadness that eventually ruins your hormonal system

or it can be an actual physical damage thing

i almost feel like depression is a symptom, but i am not a doctor

and of course there's two billion different treatments and some people are just fucked

In reality, it is

It's sort of like how a fever is a symptom of two billion diseases.

Or how we call about 10 diseases "the flu"

remember "H1N1"? it was just the flu

yeah

Maybe kids need to be educated at school, to keep track of their health.

it's not even an especially unique form of flu, just one that not many people are vaccinated for.

no, just tell them that they are perfect just the way they are

It's less schools and more parents.

Just something you do, you know, every day. Check your weight, your heartbeats, your pressure.

bad habits start with bad parents

Making your kid fat is basically child abuse

It nigh permanantly fucks up their inhibitions and hormones.

oh man i have a story about that

i used to work at a kitchen in a grocery store. it had like chines food, fried chicken, all that shit. anyway, you can get a buffet and there was this morbidly obese couple that came in with their kids

the kids were massive

and their eyes were always twitching and shit

and they would hang out there ALL day

just eating

buy the end of the day, a massive round table is completely filled and stacked 10 plates high, i shit you not.

and they had a baby with them

and just force fed it meatloaf

it was nuts man

haha fatties

lol

I hate fat people

it's not a good look

we need a zombie apocalypse

CARDIO MFs

i dont care if people are fat, just dont pretend that it's normal

Even something as simple as the "non-scale victories", Boogie talked about on TOP.

i'm not familiar with that

Like being able to walk his dog for more than a block without losing breath.

ok gotcha

Or exercise for more than 15 min.

Because there's the old "you need to exercise for at least one hour for the body to start burning fat" advice.

I wonder if there's a way to calculate what weight for you is heavy enough to lose your breath eventually just by walking

basically just do something productive everyday, dont waste days doing nothing

you can be skinny and have shitty cardio, i dont know how you can really calculate that

I can't really imagine any skinny person losing their breath from just walking though unless they have some severe condition, I feel like you'd have to be exceptionally overweight

thats true, but i have to admit even at my skinniest i had some horrible cardio. like walking a hill would get me winded

so i think you need to take just cardio in general into consideration, not just wieght

A hill basically simulates gained weight, since you're pushing harder against gravity

So that's understandable

If someone is skinny because they don't eat much food at all, but they literally never move (like spend all their time on computer) if they walk around the block they would run out of breath

a brisk walk for sure

maybe not a stroll

but a faster pace will do it

Hm, I wonder how much more in shape someone who walks around for an hour a day is compared to someone who walks around for a minute a day. Both miniscule, but one's 60x the other.

I'm thinking if the only walking they do at all is to their fridge and to their bathroom

assuming the person doesn't work or do school

anything where they have to move

@Chloé Adsolution I think their would be a big difference

it is hard to quantify, i mean what do you use for the metrics? but i would say in decently better shape

Their muscles will deteriorate by not using them

and the fact they are skinny means they must not eat much food, which means they aren't sustaining the muscles they do have anyway

it also gets your blood pumping and metabolism going

you just feel better after getting exercise

I'm pretty immobile during Spring/Fall since I ski regularly in the Winter and I'm outside a lot in the Summer, but whenever I go up and down my stairs or anywhere around the house, I'm pretty much always jumping and running from one place to the next as fast as I can

I wonder how that is compared to just slowly walking to the fridge for instance

Chloe how do you quote like you always do?

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if you dont mind me asking Chloe, are you in good shape?

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i missed that MTK

Exercise is a good addiction to have

for sure

As long as you eat enough

diet is a big factor in how you feel

```if you dont mind me asking Chloe, are you in good shape?```I'm pretty naturally strong and I'm not underweight (certainly not overweight), so I wouldn't say I'm in bad shape at all.

okay yeah i figured if you are running around the house

I'd say pretty decent shape

people who are in bad shape dont even have the energy or motivation to do that

I don't do any dedicated exercise, though I'm naturally energetic

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you probably have a good metabolism

Ye I do

It slows down as you age

i know...

I'll definitely be more active when I move to Poland, because everything's in walking distance in Przemysl, so I'll be walking everywhere pretty much, at the very least

Are you moving to Poland because they are refusing Muslim immigrants? <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

are you in europe?

Vancouver

why Poland?

Muslims <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

the US is closer

for that reason

She is polish

oh i didnt know

I'm not actually Polish

I remember the whole thing about your name though

I'll be working on music there with my friend, and the music we do fits right in with the scene there

I know a lot of people there

Didn't you say your name was Polish the day you first came here?

And I can work my current jobs online

When I suggested changing your name

what kind of music do you guys make?

Yeah my last name's Polish, though I'm German/Russian - I think the name just came from the WW1 border messiness, that's my best guess

Ah

Probably where your height comes from

Lol aye

I'm half anglo, half eastern european