I view it as -1month old

so infants

But yeah, medical technology has gotten to the point where the baby can live outside the womb at earlier and earlier points.

There is literally no medical reason to have an abortion at 9 moths, unless you're a piece of shit.

up to 9 month in the womb

imagine that before the very millisecond your son was outside mommy, you could legally murder him

Thats not far from happening

A feminist utopia in other words

Remember that progressivism is about love and tolerance

The idea of doing it for convenience is the only part that pisses me off and makes me a bit angry at people like Styx who are just "have it be on demand lol stupid christian" im a Atheist and the idea that you have to end a life for the simple fact you couldnt stand the inconvenience of a 2$ box of condoms is fucking dumb.

I met someone once who literally said they wanted abortions to be available at 7/11s up to the point of birth, unquestionably

im an atheist too and I believe human beings have "rights"

and a human is a human before they're pushed out of mommy

I won't go as far as conception

i'll give it until the baby can feel pain until there's zero morality to aborting it without someone's life threatened

What does pain have to do with it? Tbh that seems arbitrary

It is

So... yeah. Taking bets on how long until those clinics are bombed. Anyone?

but a pain standard would be the most palatable to the most people, and I say it's a moral imperative to at least make sure the child doesn't feel pain

Suddenly, Britain doesn't seem so bad...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/australian-woman-bitten-snake-cooling-114321512.html

of course, Leftists think a baby is a fetus until the millisecond after it's been squeezed out, so good luck convincing them

@Black Mage That's utilitarianism, and how we got to this point.

just have some god damned princples

The best case sinario due to my minarchist leanings is to have it on demand but be so stigmatized that only someone in mortal danger would ever consider it.

Unfortunately thats a pipe dream. But ill keep on dreaming.

Its stupid

I just don't think conception feels quite right to call it a human

Why does it matter?

i need something a little more than that to wrap my head around it

We have contraception

The Left prides itself with their sensitive feeling... but only so long as it's convenient

>make epic youtube videos to stop abortion voluntarist style

Thats the dream

Its a good dream

that's true, but this is all moot anyway - next time Leftists have free reign, abortions will be at minimum available at 9 months

not maximum, minimum

Its gay

That's a terrible dream

We can talk about principles all we want, but the pendulum doesn't seem to be swinging back to sanity

It's unprincpled

I would be a hypocrite if I had it any other way

20 weeks is where society has "settled"

for some reason

so don't be a minarchist

even though that's utterly barbaric

I'm a minarchist, and against abortion

because humans have rights

"Ignore everything you belive becuse of this one issue that you dont really care much about but do have a personal opinion on"

Kek

No

Life, Liberty, Property

well i guess you're a hypocrite

and retarded

Nygggg. It is true. I can only go one way or another. Its either a life from moment 0 or its not. None of this wishy washy arbitray line shit

Actually crypto, don't be so quick on liberty. You gotta define that, because guess what, the courts have created an entire wing of law called "substantive due process" where they can fit in their pet progressive causes as they please

doesn't killing peoe violate the nap

Anyone who is FOR abortion, but "feels bad about it" is just brainwashed into thinking women have this 'right to choose" or some other bullshit

Yea. But its a hard brainwashing to break

Just tell them to go fuck themselves

In United States constitutional law, substantive due process is a principle allowing courts to protect certain fundamental rights from government interference, even if procedural protections are present or the rights are not specifically mentioned elsewhere in the US Constitution.

At least they wont get pregnant

The entire basis for SDP is the word "liberty" in the 14th amendment

@Black Mage The fed can go fuck itself

I dont know what to believe on this issue anymore.

Moloch nationalism now

That's the Supreme Court buddy

Yeah, they're sell outs

They've twisted the Constitution

Roe v Wade is precedent... Yeah so was Scott v Sandford

I will agree that Roe v wade is retarded and the issue should entirely be up to the states

Fuck that

Like most things

The fed has one job

Protect your rights

Did you know our last spending bill in America sent 10 million to female law enforcement officers in Afghanistan?

i think the Fed has lost that track

Actually no it was 14 million

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/08/16/united-states-train-women-police-officers-worldwide/88871374/

Big oof

Epic

This includes $14 million in Afghanistan; $10 million in Nigeria and more than $8 million in Pakistan. Much of this is aimed at recruiting, training and hiring women police officers. Over the years, in Afghanistan alone, thousands of women police officers have been recruited and trained through U.S. taxpayers' dollars.

US TAXPAYER MONEY SPENT TO TRAIN FEMALE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES

We've done it lads, this is the society we always wanted

Maybe were trying to fuck their shit up

"Foreign aid helps other countrys fulfill basic needs"

I think this is my best username yet

In other news, Drumpf isn't allowed to spend money on a big beautiful wall to protect our own damn country, nor can he get the slatted compromise wall

Did you know that our government spent over $300,000 on a study to watch Japanese quail having sex on cocaine? Government is the king of wasting money bro.

dude at least that's like

scientific advancement of SOME KIND

We're training women LEOs in OTHER COUNTRIES

That's literally worthless to us, and worthless to them because...come on. What are they gonna do? Bleed all over the criminals?

😂

Shoot them.

*be trump
*ask for half of wall spending needed
Dems "no"
*offer what theyve been haranging about for the last 2 years and give them Daca
Dems before they even hear the deal; "no"
Media: "DUMPY WUMPY 2 SCOOPS HATES GOVERNMENT WORKERS, REFUSES TO COMPROMISE"

38 billion to israel months ago

Then gush all over AOC eating ice cream with colbert

5 billion aint even a percent of the budget goddamn

but thank fuck afghanistan and nigeria training some fuckin female LEOs

People need to shut the fuuck up about AOC

SHE IS A MEME, LET HER DIE

^

Sargoy made a video saying that

then he made another talking about her

real talk, how the fuck is AOC attractive?

who gives a fuck about what the guy eats? fucking Warren Buffett eats McDonalds every morning. nobody says shit about him.

She's not, who the fuck told you she was?

bitch got big ole crazy eyes

Horse face

THAT'S RACIST to horses

I kinda want her to get Walter Mondaled in a presidential election tho

thats racist to faces

Facest?

@Banks=Gay fuck that, I want her to lose every state including her own

Hmmm. But new york would vote for any D any day tho.

So who is going to be the Dem Presidential candidate? A) Bernie B) Kamala Harris C) Beta O Rourke D) Pocahontas

She would sadly win some

idk i just wanted to rhyme

@Banks=Gay not if NYC got destroyed <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

E) McCain's Corpse

C

tfw he almost won texas

tfw Texas will go blue within the next decade

Where do you think the refugees from Calli go?

'That'll never happen" Yeah, okay, and California will never go blue, right, Reagan-era voters?

God. I remember my ma calling mccain the devil when I was a kid and just a couple months ago she was calling him a hero

He wasn't

Remember when the US was held hostage by McCain's rotten carcass for a week?

@Banks=Gay did she realize how retarded she sounded?

Beto pulled in $70M+ and still lost

He got tortured and appaently made shit worse for everyone else

mccain just wanted everyone to get along

Shoudla tortured him harder

She was talking to my step-dad on the other side of the room so I didnt bother to interject

@Fitzydog now

texas wont go blue for at least 15-20 years

McCain is a good boy

@galesteppes Yes please

McCain was a cuck

And California won't go blue after Reagan haha amirite

were about to flip this seat red in november

how about you kys @Black Mage ?

And Orange County won't go blue for the first time in 70 years amirite

nothing matters right?

Cali is foreer blue because mexicants

Didn't say that

KYS

Shit dude calm yourself

no u

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

california was the most reliable red state until after reagan

shit dude, how about you stop being a negative blackpilled cunt?

Yep

*Mexicans.*

Yes, I kNOW it's the Mexicans, I live in California

@Fitzydog Actually, I believe in california, they're called new californians

Saying texas will go blue isn't blackpilled

11% of our population is illegal, according to the 2017 report

i live in cali

Begin the resistance

@Black Mage Have you tried physical removal?

i do. i go to most of the berkeley and sf libtard protests

regardless of the cause, California is deep blue and the midterms were full of close calls in otherwise reliable states

They took Orange County for fuck's sake

(((they)))

how about you blame yourselves

weak bitches

Gen Z will rebalance the playing field, just have to hold out till then.

Gen z is leftist

I'll hold out until the violence starts

White gen z is right wing

Gen Z is conservative

gen z is so fuckin conservative. it honestly gives me hope for the US's future

No its not

I voted in LA County

yeah it is

i'm not to blame for that

I did my fucking part

"But in the last decade, Orange County has become a majority-minority county. A fifth of its residents are Latino, a third are Asian-American, and it is home to several large state universities, including UC Irvine and Cal State Fullerton. The county's white population has dipped from 51 to 41%. In 2016, it voted for Hillary Clinton by 8 % - the first time it had gone Democratic since Franklin Roosevelt's 1936 landslide. This made the area one of 2018's top priorities for Democrats. "

According to the votes so far gen z is left

Yeah, people are way too optimistic about gen z. A lot of them are based, but don't forget who owns the schools

The conservatives cannot vote yet retard

more conservative then any generation since wwii

think about how we got Progressivism to this point - "woke" college professors indoctrinating students, Leftist dogma leaking to elementary schools

Aside from white gen z which is dipping into the red side

The battle lines are being drawn

18 is the age to vote

i dont know what polls you are reading but thats <:fake_news:430430057060630529>

Tbh most gen z are *skeptical* about leftism, but most vote that way just becuse theyre told its the moral thing.

I found it amazingly easy to red-pill my friends, but if I hadnt they wouldve probably continued as they were.

^

Hopefully 2020 will be like 2016 with a clean victory for sanity

They do not trust media

i think it will be

@Banks=Gay All I had to do to sow doubt is just ask basic questions

The midterms were the midterms, and they were an expected setback

Without media leftism is nothing

well dont forget about academia and hollywood

Useless

At law school, i constantly see people browsing CNN and other MSM that we here wouldn't even look at. Like, unironically. They do it all the time. This is my generation, so I hope the younger ones really are as based as they're hyped up to be

well no shit retard

Less kids are expected to go to university

lawyers are leftist

^

Depends where you go

It is NOT the towering giant we are forced to believe

95% are

As part of the “younger ones” it’s still pretty blue pilled but not as bad

Laywers have no souls and no morals, it makes sense that they love leftism

I just targeted something they can relate to. Gas.

Dem who won the gov seat here is for massive gas taxes. My friend says hes fine with it so long as it funds roads. I point out theres no proof it will, and even if it did Gas taxes harm the poor and working man due to the fact they tend to drive farther and with less fuel efficient vehicles.

That's not true but aight

They are not paet of the cult though

The only based lawyers are the ones that got fucked over, and got their certs in order to fix their wrongs

lol i've talked to like 10 different people who were totally okay with the gas tax

One was a literal communist at the public interest firm i volunteered at

Its the most regressive tax imagineable

but the others were regular people who were like "BUT THE ROADS NEED FIXING"

No what about Alan Dershowitz... darn thats right he's a liberal

Seriously

It harms the poorest in society

Ask them if they would accept hiring contractors to fix the roads

Im like "Dude, they keep taxing us saying it's for the roads, do you think that maybe that money isn't being spent right while our roads are still D grade?"

And its so easy to point it out

wHo WiIL BUilD dA RoADS?

@Black Mage that's when you bring up the last time they passed a tax for infrastructure and how it didn't fix jack shit

I did

BUT MUH ROADS?

I mentioned the rail line that was a money sink

Like, you know how in California, there's a rail line that was supposed to be done by now? Hyped up by all the Democrats and whatever? Yeah, that's a money black hole

You spoke to ten people while working for a public interest firm. That is probably gonna be skewed.

And yes, "BUT MUH ROADS"

everyone should pay a privatized tax to the leader of their residential street and everything would be good.

http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rngs/USA-ELECTION-MILLENNIALS /010061VB3NJ/index.html This is 18-34.Maybe i shouldn't, but i assume the white millenials they refer to are mostly 18-20 year old zoomers

@Black Mage the guy who advocated for the rail line now is advocating against it because of how corrupt it is

they were like "haha you're gonna need to prove that they're stealing the money crazy guy"

y link die

Im like dude the fucking roads are shit and they keep taxing us OVER AND OVER

cause u gay @Cody

Pointing out that shit like that, actually so obviously hurts the people its supposed to help, opens anyone willing to ask questions about anything, to start doing so.

Walked into my friend listening to Sargoy. Baby steps but hes started down the path

The roads are shit and they pay taxes for it now?

This is why we need to box california in and let them wallow in their misery

And the Fed pays them

jerry Brown also PROMISED he wouldn't tax us unilaterally, because we ALREADY had a gas tax in California. He taxed us unilaterally, and people are still going "Welp, but the roads!"

cail's roads are ranked like 49th/50 states

Jerry Brown straight up fucking lied and no one gives a shit

no one cares

@Black Mage Did you ask them, "So why the fuck are the roads still shit then?"

"BUT MUH ROADS! TAX ME DADDY!"

and they dont get as shitty weather as most of the other states

Because the govt needs more money, obviously!

gale, literally, that's the response

and im not talking about the literal communist