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2018-03-25 10:13:04 UTC

Just looking for some future debate.

2018-03-25 10:13:11 UTC

we are carnivorous animals, i am happy to end the debate there

2018-03-25 10:13:41 UTC

I spy a Charlie Kirk tweet...

2018-03-25 10:13:58 UTC

Honestly, a Yes/No answer is what I'm looking for.

2018-03-25 10:14:15 UTC

Not a retarded claim on our biological nature.

2018-03-25 10:15:44 UTC

I am all for veganism when we can perfectly clone meat for everyone on the planet

2018-03-25 10:15:57 UTC

Tasty meat

2018-03-25 10:16:29 UTC

I am all for veganism when we can perfectly clone everyone on the planet for meat

2018-03-25 10:16:36 UTC

<:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-03-25 10:16:41 UTC

That's not a moral argument for the non vegan position @nic

2018-03-25 10:16:58 UTC

Of course it's not, it's a shitpost you absolute unit

2018-03-25 10:17:15 UTC

Who wants the debate?

2018-03-25 10:17:21 UTC

Nonveganism is as immoral a position as not contributing to the field of researching synthetic meats.

2018-03-25 10:17:52 UTC

Absolute cancer.

2018-03-25 10:17:56 UTC

For the time being the nonveganism is a necesity for large part of the population that need nutrients

2018-03-25 10:17:57 UTC

Anyone want the debate?

2018-03-25 10:18:16 UTC

@Trebjonn Incorrect .

2018-03-25 10:18:22 UTC

Who wants the debate?

2018-03-25 10:18:43 UTC

the vegan diet is not suitable for everyone on the earth

2018-03-25 10:18:54 UTC

or economically feasible

2018-03-25 10:19:18 UTC

So you're asking for input on a debate, and you're calling everyone's responses cancer and incorrect.

2018-03-25 10:19:25 UTC

Trebjonn is correct here

2018-03-25 10:19:27 UTC

1st argument is incorrect 2nd argument isn't an argument that can demonstrate your position as moral.

2018-03-25 10:19:31 UTC

No he isn't.

2018-03-25 10:19:52 UTC

So you would rather people starve or get malnutrition?

2018-03-25 10:20:01 UTC

I'm looking for someone to accept the proposition, take the con of the prop and debate.

2018-03-25 10:20:22 UTC

Ok, if Trebjonn isn't correct, you need to do a bit more than say "no he isn't" to change my mind

2018-03-25 10:20:24 UTC

@Trebjonn Appeal to futility fallacies aren't arguments .

2018-03-25 10:20:52 UTC

Y needs to do X therefore X is justified in all contexts across the board.

2018-03-25 10:20:54 UTC

Saying an argument isnt an argument without a counter argument

2018-03-25 10:21:31 UTC

Its an appeal to futility.

2018-03-25 10:21:38 UTC

Nobody wants the debate?

2018-03-25 10:22:17 UTC

Your argument was an assertion and irrelevant to your position being moral/immoral

2018-03-25 10:22:54 UTC

Are you willing to debate us?

2018-03-25 10:23:20 UTC

2-3 letters plz

2018-03-25 10:24:00 UTC

I'm not responding

2018-03-25 10:24:07 UTC

Unless you'll debate on vv

2018-03-25 10:24:11 UTC

Vc

2018-03-25 10:26:06 UTC

who is "us"

2018-03-25 10:26:11 UTC

The royal us

2018-03-25 10:26:17 UTC

he's king of the potatoes

2018-03-25 10:26:32 UTC

The US of A

2018-03-25 10:26:54 UTC

2V2

2018-03-25 10:27:09 UTC

Who is supposed to be on your side of the argument

2018-03-25 10:27:40 UTC

The vegetable police.

2018-03-25 10:27:40 UTC

I find it weird how many people show up here specifically to debate veganism

2018-03-25 10:27:57 UTC

Because it's a serious ethical issue.

2018-03-25 10:28:06 UTC

Its growing quite rapidly

2018-03-25 10:28:16 UTC

A lot of people find pleasure in telling others how superior they are, morally speaking.

2018-03-25 10:28:27 UTC

@Mal Some dont.

2018-03-25 10:28:46 UTC

Yes

2018-03-25 10:28:48 UTC

Those that do want to debate

2018-03-25 10:28:52 UTC

Sounds like a guilt by association fallacy to me

2018-03-25 10:29:08 UTC

Everything is a fallacy with you jfc

2018-03-25 10:29:12 UTC

Sounds like a good tactic to dismiss moral discussion as wellclol

2018-03-25 10:29:19 UTC

Is debating you going to be you just pointing out perceived logical fallacies?

2018-03-25 10:29:30 UTC

Because if so, I doubt a lot of people will take the bait. <:LUL:372856126007410689>

2018-03-25 10:30:01 UTC

Lines of reasoning are either fallacious or they aren't.

2018-03-25 10:30:11 UTC

Who says I was reasoning, and not just taunting you?

2018-03-25 10:30:26 UTC

Here we go~

2018-03-25 10:30:28 UTC

That's a retarded throwaway statement.

2018-03-25 10:30:37 UTC

Who wants the debate?

wew lad. Today is Speakers Corner Round Two. Prepare your MEMES

2018-03-25 10:30:42 UTC

Vegan diets tend to lack heavily in protein and are often supplemented. The extra payments for supplements alone is not feasable when you can probably get the same nutritional value for less by buying a slab o' meat. Also taste needs to be factored in.
Typically fake meat is more expensive in markets. Of course it depends who you're buying from but you can get some seriously inexpensive meats which can save you quite a few bucks on shopping.
I don't even know the numbers and I'm not going to pretend I do know the numbers. But I do know this much - there are a FUCKTON of animals in this world who have been bread exclusively for eating. They are so genetically altered that they couldn't even hope to survive on their own in the wild. Which means they'd only exist (in great numbers) to be "taken care of" and I don't think that is going to pay the breeder's bills. Further more, closing down slaughter houses, breeding farms, butchers etc would cause a LOT of lost drops, which would be economically damaging.
tl;dr Veganism doesn't work.

2018-03-25 10:30:44 UTC

Oh is it? It seems to have riled you up good though. <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-03-25 10:30:53 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/427414061043679232/unknown.png

2018-03-25 10:30:57 UTC

XD

2018-03-25 10:31:03 UTC

Omg

2018-03-25 10:31:09 UTC

Fuck a retard @Hyddraigon

2018-03-25 10:31:16 UTC

Nice counter argument

2018-03-25 10:31:19 UTC

Great argument bro

2018-03-25 10:31:24 UTC

That's what we said when we saw you :^) @Deleted User

2018-03-25 10:31:27 UTC

Provide evidence for your claims.

2018-03-25 10:31:30 UTC

Is 1-2 PM in like 3 hours from now?

2018-03-25 10:31:37 UTC

Gtfo if that's the quality of your "debating skills"

2018-03-25 10:31:51 UTC

@Deleted User you have provided no evidence for your own, bit rich to demand some from the opposition :^)

2018-03-25 10:31:55 UTC

REEEEEEEEEEE, EVIDENCE!

2018-03-25 10:32:03 UTC

Evidence for what? @nic

2018-03-25 10:32:05 UTC

I was just about to sleep, Sargon only wants Europeans...

2018-03-25 10:32:13 UTC

Your arguments perhaps?

we have about 3 hours to stop Sargon from speaking at Speakers Corner ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-03-25 10:32:21 UTC

Vegans are genuinely retarded

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/427414432533053450/DX4xLHqXcAARN3Q.png

2018-03-25 10:32:22 UTC

@nic. Which argument?

2018-03-25 10:32:30 UTC

Tell us how morally superior you are, already. Let us sinners have it.

2018-03-25 10:32:56 UTC

**@NZ PATRIOT** was cleansed from the server.

2018-03-25 10:33:01 UTC

Fair

2018-03-25 10:33:06 UTC

That didn't last long.

2018-03-25 10:33:09 UTC

You never provided any evidence for this for starters

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/427414630881689601/Screenshot_20180325-213249.jpg

2018-03-25 10:33:11 UTC

Booooo he left

2018-03-25 10:33:13 UTC

Dang he didnt even get the blue tag

2018-03-25 10:33:56 UTC

he wasn't even willing to genuinely entertain anyone's serious responses anyway

2018-03-25 10:34:18 UTC

He seems to think he's entitled to debate

2018-03-25 10:34:50 UTC

Humans are made to be omnivores, we weren't even designed to consume grain and yet it is something vegans push for.

2018-03-25 10:35:47 UTC

Because he thinks he has the moral high ground because he is so virtous since he has the privelege to actually be able to go on vegan diet with fewer health risks than most people

2018-03-25 10:36:43 UTC

```we have about 3 hours to stop Sargon from speaking at Speakers Corner smile```Why did he choose Speaker's Corner of all places...?

2018-03-25 10:36:52 UTC

Grains are alright, I enjoy multigrain bread and things like this but our bodies weren't made to consume these things our teeth are designed for meat and leafy greens

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