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2018-06-09 16:00:52 UTC

The problem with the UK is that the politicians always try to solve secondary issues rather than the root cause of the problem. So we are in this perpetual situation of people basically putting band aids on

2018-06-09 16:03:09 UTC

I think the root problem with the UK is its monarchism, a problem intensified by its lack of written constitution

2018-06-09 16:03:11 UTC

yeah, oldie but a goodie
does he still upload?

2018-06-09 16:03:22 UTC

actually, last I heard, he got booked for something, ironically enough

2018-06-09 16:03:30 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic nope, watch the vid

2018-06-09 16:03:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/455039336610529300/20180609_180330.JPG

2018-06-09 16:05:00 UTC

A lot of these secondary "solutions" wouldn't even be legal with something comparable to a Bill of Rights

2018-06-09 16:05:33 UTC

The problem with politicians is that far too many people have a naive faith in them

2018-06-09 16:05:36 UTC

a bill of rights that can't simply be undone with a later contradicting law and some "Common Law" interpretation aswith the Communications Act of 2003

2018-06-09 16:06:09 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic You obviously didn't understand what Douglas said

2018-06-09 16:06:38 UTC

I agree with Douglas, I just think there's an even deeper and more fundamental problem with the British legal system

2018-06-09 16:07:01 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic the problem is the politicians, that don't serve the people and we are a small number that support others.

2018-06-09 16:07:28 UTC

politicians who don't swear allegiance to their citizens or British law

2018-06-09 16:07:45 UTC

but instead personally swear allegiance to the British monarch

2018-06-09 16:08:23 UTC

That isn't the problem. That is naive

2018-06-09 16:08:43 UTC

You just said that the politicians don't serve the people

2018-06-09 16:08:53 UTC

That's because they're not supposed to

2018-06-09 16:08:57 UTC

They don't serve the monarch either

2018-06-09 16:09:05 UTC

Yes, they do

2018-06-09 16:09:08 UTC

no

2018-06-09 16:09:15 UTC

```I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.```

2018-06-09 16:09:30 UTC

Do you think they honour that ?

2018-06-09 16:09:34 UTC

They don't

2018-06-09 16:09:45 UTC

The PM certainly does when meeting with the monarch personally every week

2018-06-09 16:10:08 UTC

gay

2018-06-09 16:10:22 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic do they meet every week, because I don't think it is that often

2018-06-09 16:10:35 UTC

they meet when they get sworn in

2018-06-09 16:10:43 UTC

```The British Prime Minister has a weekly audience with Elizabeth II, usually every Wednesday, during parliamentary time at Buckingham Palace.```

2018-06-09 16:10:46 UTC

Weekly

2018-06-09 16:11:10 UTC

Hmmmm

2018-06-09 16:11:15 UTC

I wonder how much it is observed

2018-06-09 16:11:39 UTC

because I know Theresa May and David Cameron were slamming corbyn on a wednesday

2018-06-09 16:12:53 UTC

Looks like they make time after the meeting, because here's David Cameron confirming their weekly nature: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710855/My-weekly-chats-Queen-help-clear-head-says-Cameron-s-not-sure-gets-it.html

2018-06-09 16:13:11 UTC

Umm surprising

2018-06-09 16:13:39 UTC

still doesn't mean anything

2018-06-09 16:14:02 UTC

The Queen, in turn, only swore an oath to defend the Church of England, if I recall correctly

2018-06-09 16:14:52 UTC

Do you honestly think any sort of Real Politik works this way?

2018-06-09 16:15:10 UTC

Thoughts on Anthony Bourdain?

2018-06-09 16:15:54 UTC

@M4Gunner RIP, God will be getting some tasty steak.

2018-06-09 16:16:11 UTC

I honestly think the British government works this way, because it does. This is what happens when your nation has no written constitution and a Bill of Rights that can easily be contradicted like any other law.

2018-06-09 16:16:32 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic You are a fucking idiot then. Each politician has their own ideals, they don't suddenly meet the queen and after 40 odd years of being in politics think "the Crown and the realm"

2018-06-09 16:17:00 UTC

The UK is not a republic

2018-06-09 16:17:57 UTC

For all intents and purposes, it is. The monarchy has no _de facto_ power.

2018-06-09 16:18:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/455042920446427156/8T2VUv8.gif

2018-06-09 16:18:20 UTC

She has shitloads of de jure power, however.

2018-06-09 16:18:54 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic if she did there would be a big fucking problem. That is only supposed to be used in times of war

2018-06-09 16:18:55 UTC

She also has massive amounts of "soft power" in the form of subtle gestures of approval or disapproval

2018-06-09 16:19:09 UTC

Nah, she's literally above UK law

2018-06-09 16:19:14 UTC

UK law comes from her

2018-06-09 16:19:28 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic Magna Carta dickhead

2018-06-09 16:19:28 UTC

She is the source of legitimacy under the UK system

2018-06-09 16:19:48 UTC

hence the difference between subjects and citizens

2018-06-09 16:20:00 UTC

GROAN

2018-06-09 16:20:25 UTC

The lords are more of a problem than the Royal Family

2018-06-09 16:20:38 UTC

the Royal Family are for getting American Tourists in

2018-06-09 16:20:53 UTC

Hold on, lemme dig up Tim Pool's interview with a UK lawyer who testifies that the Magna Carta doesn't mean shit today

2018-06-09 16:21:28 UTC

because it, like any other law, can be overwritten by newer legislative sessions

2018-06-09 16:21:37 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic Tim Pool is another idiot, he couldn't even say "Row" correctly in the context of an argument. I am not going to believe anything he says

2018-06-09 16:21:57 UTC

This isn't something he said, this is something a UK lawyer said

2018-06-09 16:22:09 UTC

in response to Tim Pool asking about the Magna Carta

2018-06-09 16:22:42 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic I don't believe any information coming from him any more, if he can't command simple English ... I can't trust anything else he says

2018-06-09 16:23:49 UTC

and it isn't like a Vee cockup where it is obviously someone that speaks another language first and uses the wrong tense or something. It was him being a fucking moron.

2018-06-09 16:24:18 UTC

Once again, this was a video interview where this lawyer was speaking directly to the audience

2018-06-09 16:24:30 UTC

not some second-hand retelling by Pool

2018-06-09 16:24:35 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic don't trust his choice of lawyer

2018-06-09 16:24:57 UTC

This is one of the most ridiculous conversations I have ever seen on Discord

2018-06-09 16:25:35 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic a person has to make a value judgement and once a guy makes 3 or 4 mistakes that are moronic, I can't trust the guy.

2018-06-09 16:25:56 UTC

Well it's about the best option I have because the UK legal system is so fucked up on a fundamental level that it takes a UK lawyer to figure out what takes precedence over what

2018-06-09 16:26:06 UTC

Nothing means anything

2018-06-09 16:26:09 UTC

words don't mean anything

2018-06-09 16:26:18 UTC

@MuChaDo you are free to look away

2018-06-09 16:26:18 UTC

From my point of view the jedi are evil

2018-06-09 16:26:29 UTC

Then you are lost

2018-06-09 16:26:34 UTC

@King Canuck That is what Anakin thought

2018-06-09 16:27:01 UTC

**duel of the fates intensifies**

2018-06-09 16:27:11 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic do you think that whoever Tim Pool got was the best thinker on it?

2018-06-09 16:27:24 UTC

Someone needs to buy Tim Pool some fucking clothes

2018-06-09 16:27:30 UTC

he only seems to have the one outfit

2018-06-09 16:27:33 UTC

๐Ÿฆ‰

2018-06-09 16:28:03 UTC

I somehow have a small long-distance-crush on his co-host.

2018-06-09 16:28:17 UTC

Emily or something.

2018-06-09 16:28:23 UTC

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-06-09 16:28:25 UTC

needs more air time.

2018-06-09 16:28:27 UTC

@Deleted User What she said seemed consistent with the way UK law works in all other respects

2018-06-09 16:28:44 UTC

The Communications Act of 2003 clashes against the Human Rights Act of 1998

2018-06-09 16:29:05 UTC

The Human Rights Act of 1998 clashes with the Malicious Communications Act of 1980

2018-06-09 16:29:06 UTC

etc.

2018-06-09 16:29:07 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic It was a woman as well ... ๐ŸšŽ

2018-06-09 16:31:32 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic I just don't trust anything from Tim Pool

2018-06-09 16:32:27 UTC

Why not?

2018-06-09 16:32:29 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic I never will, he is the idiot that things hacking something is like using a CD as a table mat

2018-06-09 16:32:39 UTC

What?

2018-06-09 16:32:46 UTC

Oh, the reubin interview

2018-06-09 16:32:56 UTC

Praise jdm

2018-06-09 16:33:15 UTC

@King Canuck what he said was fucking retarded

2018-06-09 16:33:24 UTC

Hacking means being able to come up with alternative ways of thinking and solving problems.

2018-06-09 16:33:31 UTC

What, that "hacking" can constitute using anything and putting it to a purpose it wasn't made for?

2018-06-09 16:33:37 UTC

I personally thought it was an interesting take on the idea

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