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2017-09-27 20:47:40 UTC

well, not got to be, but more likely

2017-09-27 20:47:50 UTC

rather than a completely from whole cloth tale

2017-09-27 20:48:02 UTC

its possible he's a real guy recruited

2017-09-27 20:48:05 UTC

or a total creation

2017-09-27 20:48:08 UTC

but its a bullshit story either way

2017-09-27 20:48:14 UTC

I think somebody called this guy

2017-09-27 20:48:20 UTC

me too

2017-09-27 20:48:37 UTC

look at the disclaimer he put on his own story

2017-09-27 20:48:39 UTC

THAT is weird

2017-09-27 20:48:52 UTC

Because the narrative had been going on for about a month when this guys interview happened

2017-09-27 20:49:03 UTC

yeah

2017-09-27 20:49:15 UTC

it is weird, and its been on most of these bullshit sites

2017-09-27 20:49:17 UTC

the thing about them is

2017-09-27 20:49:22 UTC

none of them seem like anything worth clicking.

2017-09-27 20:49:24 UTC

for anyone

2017-09-27 20:49:27 UTC

its not clickbait

2017-09-27 20:50:22 UTC

its an IP asset

2017-09-27 20:50:47 UTC

it just has to exist, then it can be spread, then it can be discussed as fake news by "real news"

2017-09-27 20:51:01 UTC

its also a sign

2017-09-27 20:51:13 UTC

that they are afraid

2017-09-27 20:51:27 UTC

because they didn't have to do it

2017-09-27 20:51:44 UTC

but they felt they had to do it anyway

2017-09-27 20:51:58 UTC

like when a person starts explaining their actions to you for no reason

2017-09-27 20:52:05 UTC

and you realize its to make themselves feel better

2017-09-27 20:52:08 UTC

My profile of the guy so far is he seems very nihilistic

2017-09-27 20:52:10 UTC

they aren't even really talking to you

2017-09-27 20:52:13 UTC

Even for a liberal

2017-09-27 20:52:22 UTC

that last article in particular does a lot of work in fake-painting Hillary's campaign as the payer of the protestor

2017-09-27 20:52:23 UTC

They might have seen him as unstable

2017-09-27 20:52:35 UTC

which makes me suspicious given the context

2017-09-27 20:52:50 UTC

intelligence agencies love to use such people

2017-09-27 20:52:53 UTC

especially fags

2017-09-27 20:53:02 UTC

but it could also just be bullshit

2017-09-27 20:53:05 UTC

people with drug addictions

2017-09-27 20:53:16 UTC

yeah, such people are easier to control

2017-09-27 20:53:49 UTC

Yeah occams razor is that he is just some fag that knew a CNN producer

2017-09-27 20:53:51 UTC

and dispose of as well

2017-09-27 20:54:01 UTC

you have to start with

2017-09-27 20:54:04 UTC

"it doesn't make sense"

2017-09-27 20:54:07 UTC

Made up a retarded story to hype up his own site

2017-09-27 20:54:25 UTC

if "Occam's razor" is "this person's motivations could conceivably make sense"

2017-09-27 20:54:30 UTC

then that's bs

2017-09-27 20:54:40 UTC

I don't think occam's razor cuts that way because his motivations are just too crazy. a LOT of fucking work went into this

2017-09-27 20:54:56 UTC

I hate that thing by the way

2017-09-27 20:55:10 UTC

or just the way people use it, they use it as an excuse to not think

2017-09-27 20:55:17 UTC

well yeah people abuse the concept of likelihood

2017-09-27 20:55:19 UTC

generally

2017-09-27 20:55:30 UTC

Occam's razor = "things are just as they seem"

2017-09-27 20:55:34 UTC

99.9% of the time

2017-09-27 20:56:05 UTC

So what do you think then fallot?

2017-09-27 20:56:20 UTC

Think he was just some fag on a spook pay role?

2017-09-27 20:56:28 UTC

oh I didn't realize he was a fag

2017-09-27 20:56:29 UTC

is he?

2017-09-27 20:56:33 UTC

I don't know

2017-09-27 20:56:38 UTC

okay

2017-09-27 20:56:49 UTC

yes I do think he is just some CIA stooge

2017-09-27 20:57:03 UTC

and it's the CIA, not anything else

2017-09-27 20:57:21 UTC

CIA, NSA, FBI, all of these would be involved, but I think the "real deal" is the CIA

2017-09-27 20:57:39 UTC

where I'm from

2017-09-27 20:57:45 UTC

Seems like alot of wasted resources

2017-09-27 20:57:45 UTC

an intelligence agency pretty much openly runs shit

2017-09-27 20:58:03 UTC

there are less palatable elements such as occultism etc. I am ignoring

2017-09-27 20:58:13 UTC

this is just the simple take

2017-09-27 20:58:23 UTC

you think this is wasted resources?

2017-09-27 20:58:33 UTC

its wasted in that they didn't need to do it

2017-09-27 20:58:37 UTC

but it does work

2017-09-27 20:58:49 UTC

it just works on the wrong people, the ones who are already convinced

2017-09-27 20:58:53 UTC

that's these people's big problem

2017-09-27 20:59:05 UTC

all over the world, people are starting to shift away from what they are being told

2017-09-27 20:59:11 UTC

and this has really put all these folks into a tizzy

2017-09-27 20:59:14 UTC

all the "elites"

2017-09-27 20:59:20 UTC

its not just Trump, or America

2017-09-27 20:59:30 UTC

Brexit is another such thing, and they dont know what to do with it

2017-09-27 20:59:49 UTC

They are slowly watering that down

2017-09-27 20:59:54 UTC

yeah

2017-09-27 21:00:01 UTC

the "pro-Brexit" side is anti-Brexit too

2017-09-27 21:00:09 UTC

but at the same time, their control isn't perfect etc.

2017-09-27 21:00:10 UTC

May is

2017-09-27 21:00:14 UTC

else they wouldn't have anything to be afraid of

2017-09-27 21:00:32 UTC

and also, there is no reason to think they themselves are unified

2017-09-27 21:00:51 UTC

as I was saying

2017-09-27 21:00:56 UTC

where I'm from, an intelligence agency runs shit

2017-09-27 21:01:14 UTC

and there have been issues there of a bloc within the agency with their own goals etc.

2017-09-27 21:01:25 UTC

or more than one bloc

2017-09-27 21:01:36 UTC

why do we accept the existence of intelligence agencies

2017-09-27 21:01:46 UTC

I'm not saying we dont need them

2017-09-27 21:01:55 UTC

but think about them, just mull it over, dont say anything

2017-09-27 21:02:06 UTC

for a day or an hour or a minute, think about these people

2017-09-27 21:02:22 UTC

think about the erosion of institutions under leftism, are these people immune?

2017-09-27 21:02:39 UTC

even in a totally benign reading, there is room for shadowy conspirators

2017-09-27 21:02:52 UTC

its nothing crazy, it makes sense, it fits human motivations

2017-09-27 21:02:57 UTC

I believe the reality is considerably crazier

2017-09-27 21:03:03 UTC

but this is a starting point

2017-09-27 21:03:24 UTC

Well yeah intrigue isn't anything new

2017-09-27 21:03:31 UTC

yeah exactly

2017-09-27 21:03:32 UTC

Many actors just waiting

2017-09-27 21:03:39 UTC

intrigue is nothing new, well said

2017-09-27 21:04:05 UTC

a professional class of intriguers, respected by society, is new though

2017-09-27 21:04:52 UTC

I have thought about those agencies

2017-09-27 21:05:27 UTC

I mean in many ways a "state" or a "government" is an idea i.e. the people come and go but the existence of the trans-personal, non-material entity remains secure

2017-09-27 21:05:27 UTC

Traditionally spies are despised

2017-09-27 21:05:43 UTC

The idea of spies being cool is modern too

2017-09-27 21:05:46 UTC

these spies are the real government in that sense

2017-09-27 21:06:34 UTC

in jurisprudential theory, a major quesiton is the nature of sovreignty - scholars used to argue about whether the sovreign can be conceptually bound by the laws he himself creates

2017-09-27 21:06:56 UTC

it's kind of a neat paradox that modern intelligence agencies have basically sidestepped

2017-09-27 21:07:24 UTC

yeah @UOC

2017-09-27 21:07:27 UTC

because ultimately, the answer is that no law but natural law truly binds the sovereign

2017-09-27 21:07:37 UTC

An intelligence agency would also hate real leaders and kings

2017-09-27 21:07:38 UTC

they run things, but their power is fake ultimately

2017-09-27 21:07:42 UTC

that's why they are afraid

2017-09-27 21:07:42 UTC

by corollary, you might argue, if you are looking for the sovereign...

2017-09-27 21:08:08 UTC

"The power behind the throne"

2017-09-27 21:08:25 UTC

The enemy behind the shield

2017-09-27 21:09:49 UTC

It's another ersatz jews

2017-09-27 21:09:53 UTC

Like the masons

2017-09-27 21:10:12 UTC

Well yeah

2017-09-27 21:10:20 UTC

It's a very jewish concept

2017-09-27 21:12:03 UTC

The editors of the jewish mag the Atlantic discuss that bit here, I think towards the middle it's a long vid worth the watch.

2017-09-27 21:12:29 UTC

Using the crown to protect them from the population

2017-09-27 21:12:53 UTC

fallot contextualize the one-eye thing for me. I presume the reference is the eye of providence but what is VC's view on "the illuminati"?

2017-09-27 21:14:05 UTC

That is real

2017-09-27 21:14:33 UTC

And inseparable from the occult and luciferianism

2017-09-27 21:15:52 UTC

but what does VC say it is? is it a cabal of noses? or is it a metaphor for like the emergent occult behavior of cultural elites, many of whom are noses?

2017-09-27 21:16:47 UTC

VC never says what something is

2017-09-27 21:17:01 UTC

he has a few articles that given broad breakdowns of Monarch etc.

2017-09-27 21:17:08 UTC

but he has no articles on symbology itself

2017-09-27 21:17:12 UTC

that's what makes his website so useful

2017-09-27 21:17:18 UTC

The connection to kabbalah is there

2017-09-27 21:17:20 UTC

Isn't it

2017-09-27 21:17:22 UTC

all he does, is show you recurring patterns

2017-09-27 21:17:31 UTC

it is there, but its light

2017-09-27 21:17:42 UTC

its one of the most impenetrable symbols in all of this stuff

2017-09-27 21:18:00 UTC

I don't know the "ingroup" explanations for it

2017-09-27 21:18:37 UTC

Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (๏ทบ) said: There is never a prophet who has not warned the Ummah of that one-eyed liar; behold he is one-eyed and your Lord is not one-eyed. On his forehead are the letters k f. r. (Kafir).

2017-09-27 21:19:37 UTC

more specifically it is the eye of Horus

2017-09-27 21:21:00 UTC

KJV says: "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

2017-09-27 21:21:17 UTC

newer versions change "single" to a bunch of other shit

2017-09-27 21:21:24 UTC

idk what they're translating or how

2017-09-27 21:21:27 UTC

interesting tho

2017-09-27 21:22:05 UTC

@UOC , Lucifer, the lightbearer is I believe represented by that one eye as a result @UOC

2017-09-27 21:22:13 UTC

or lightbringer

2017-09-27 21:22:39 UTC

> The Greek of the passage does not say "good" (kalos) but "single, simple" (haplous).

2017-09-27 21:22:40 UTC

the "gnostic" understanding is a tricky lie in that it creates the opposition, the frame

2017-09-27 21:23:11 UTC

I think what I'm referring to in the bible is a false positive

2017-09-27 21:23:37 UTC

sure

2017-09-27 21:24:09 UTC

I read that Masud thing last time you posted. Was good.

2017-09-27 21:33:27 UTC

that masonic article is so bad

2017-09-27 21:33:33 UTC

all masonic shit available to the public is like this

2017-09-27 21:33:38 UTC

it never talks about the actual thing

2017-09-27 21:33:45 UTC

there's this long screed in a particular tone

2017-09-27 21:33:50 UTC

"well isn't this nice, and ah"

2017-09-27 21:34:47 UTC

for example, why do masons have the symbol of a square and compass

2017-09-27 21:34:57 UTC

because you need those to measure things, like stones

2017-09-27 21:35:15 UTC

there, simple, an explanation with many possible esoteric layers

2017-09-27 21:35:20 UTC

but a simple, in your face one

2017-09-27 21:35:50 UTC

in this whole article there is no addressing why there is one eye

2017-09-27 21:35:53 UTC

in the first place

2017-09-27 21:38:18 UTC

lol

2017-09-27 21:38:35 UTC

I hope they keep doing this for months.

2017-09-27 21:38:50 UTC

I hope some decrepit boomer filmstar does it at the Oscars

2017-09-27 21:39:22 UTC

Waddup, fags

2017-09-27 21:41:41 UTC

hello

2017-09-27 22:01:00 UTC

hello, fag

2017-09-27 22:20:23 UTC

Is the man on the right a quadroon?

2017-09-27 22:20:32 UTC

or mullato?

2017-09-27 22:28:25 UTC

that is the main guy doing the kneeling, Colin Kaepernick

2017-09-27 22:29:09 UTC

wikipedia says his father was black, and left him with his moms, who put him up for adoption

2017-09-27 22:29:16 UTC

and was adopted by white people

2017-09-27 22:29:36 UTC

his mom is white

2017-09-27 22:30:21 UTC

he looks berber or some shit

2017-09-27 22:30:33 UTC

Yeah

2017-09-27 22:30:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/362727846344392704/lead_960.jpg

2017-09-27 22:31:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/362728007720239104/87925214.jpg

2017-09-27 22:35:11 UTC

wikipedia says his dad is black but I can't actually confirm that because one of the two citations doesn't say that and the other is a dead link

2017-09-27 22:36:01 UTC

archive of the second cited only says "Of course, they couldn't have imagined when they began the process that the offspring of a blonde, athletic mother and an African-American father who was out of the picture before he was born, would be a star quarterback." from some old NPR bio piece

2017-09-27 22:36:33 UTC

why did they add that redundant info

2017-09-27 22:36:38 UTC

"who was out of the picture before he was born"

2017-09-27 22:37:01 UTC

for some reason, the powers that be prefer these sort of people

2017-09-27 22:37:02 UTC

haha

2017-09-27 22:37:04 UTC

absent far away black father

2017-09-27 22:37:08 UTC

white mother, generally academic

2017-09-27 22:37:13 UTC

or communist etc.

2017-09-27 22:37:36 UTC

Chukka Umunna, Barack Obama, Colin Kaepernick

2017-09-27 22:37:48 UTC

speculation is that his father was James Lofton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lofton) and that the relationship was an affair and thus the mother won't reveal the father

2017-09-27 22:38:20 UTC

In October 1984, a dancer at the Marquee Club in Milwaukee accused James Lofton and his Packers teammate Eddie Lee Ivery of sexual assault. Lofton and Ivery asserted that the acts were consensual. Neither player ended up being charged in the incident due to a lack of evidence. Two years later, Lofton was charged with second-degree sexual assault following an incident in the stairwell of a Green Bay nightclub. He was found not guilty of that charge.

2017-09-27 22:38:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/362729835841323011/Lofton-James-3.jpg

2017-09-27 22:39:06 UTC

speculation is that his father was

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/362729895371210752/Lofton_James-HS_630.jpg

2017-09-27 22:40:16 UTC

it's the hero's journey inverted fallot

2017-09-27 22:41:19 UTC

the youth, disadvantaged by his parenthood (unjustly! through no fault of his own!) transcends his humble beginnings to take on ever-greater challenges

2017-09-27 22:41:34 UTC

in our inverted version, he takes on challenges from the agents of order and decency

2017-09-27 22:43:06 UTC

nice

2017-09-27 22:43:19 UTC

they are always saviours of some sort too

2017-09-27 22:44:29 UTC

right. huble beginning provides the arc and inherent challenge to be overcome. lack of effective parenthood or other humble beginning puts them in the hole from which they must climb out, in the process realizing the greatness within themselves

2017-09-27 22:44:58 UTC

in this instance, it's a very pure version of the archetype because we learn that his father is SECRETLY the king - here a famous former football star

2017-09-27 22:45:19 UTC

thus Kaepernick's arc is especially classic hero's journey

2017-09-27 22:45:41 UTC

he's jon snow

2017-09-27 22:45:46 UTC

young arthur

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etc

2017-09-27 22:46:12 UTC

moses

2017-09-27 22:46:33 UTC

although the moses thing is interesting because it is like the mirror-world hero's journey

2017-09-27 22:46:56 UTC

which is used to show the spiritual supremacy of god's chosen people

2017-09-27 22:49:33 UTC

also black

2017-09-27 22:49:46 UTC

the mixed race part is important too

2017-09-27 22:50:03 UTC

for the inversion, definitely.

2017-09-27 22:50:22 UTC

in the classic version, the "mixture" is divine + mortal

2017-09-27 22:50:25 UTC

I meant more just to push that thing, a future "united race"

2017-09-27 22:50:58 UTC

for sure but I think it comports with my theory

2017-09-27 22:51:00 UTC

as well

2017-09-27 22:51:57 UTC

because the hero is the hero partially because of his mixed nature. His years unrecognized allow him sympathy, understanding, etc for those he must eventually rule, even though they are technically beneath him.

2017-09-27 22:52:09 UTC

jesus, hercules, etc

2017-09-27 22:52:36 UTC

here, it's not divine and mortal admixture but racial

2017-09-27 22:52:49 UTC

with the structural implication that to be black is to be divine

2017-09-27 22:52:56 UTC

yeah he's Naruto

2017-09-27 22:53:02 UTC

what's naruto's story

2017-09-27 22:53:16 UTC

early on at least, Naruto is a young strapping boy in a ninja village

2017-09-27 22:53:29 UTC

who hates no one, but who everyone fears because in him has been locked a raging fox demon

2017-09-27 22:53:34 UTC

that earlier terrorized the village

2017-09-27 22:53:54 UTC

MOTHER IS CZECH AND IRISH

2017-09-27 22:53:58 UTC

[[[ IRISH ]]]

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...

2017-09-27 22:54:05 UTC

ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE

2017-09-27 22:54:07 UTC

LATEST PODCAST

2017-09-27 22:55:28 UTC

so what's his arc? he comes to terms with his demon side and gains power but retains his sympathy and good nature toward his humble origins?

2017-09-27 22:55:49 UTC

yeah sorta

2017-09-27 22:55:55 UTC

it gets kind of crazy later on

2017-09-27 22:56:00 UTC

as in retarded crazy

2017-09-27 22:56:04 UTC

but that's pretty much the arc

2017-09-27 22:56:10 UTC

It jumped the shark to milk the cash cow

2017-09-27 22:56:27 UTC

and the power level transcended 9000

2017-09-27 22:56:30 UTC

some of the laziest shit of all time

2017-09-27 22:56:32 UTC

haha a buddy of mine really likes it. I always mean to check it out but never do.

2017-09-27 22:56:33 UTC

was done in that manga

2017-09-27 22:56:38 UTC

it was so lazy

2017-09-27 22:56:43 UTC

you could tell the guy hated doing it

2017-09-27 22:57:13 UTC

just ran out of ideas

2017-09-27 22:57:20 UTC

he wanted to do something like Dragonball -> DBZ

2017-09-27 22:57:24 UTC

but failed very badly

2017-09-27 22:57:41 UTC

Do you know about the "Dissonance" discord, Fallot?

2017-09-27 22:57:48 UTC

I don't, what is it

2017-09-27 22:57:51 UTC

It has an ethnically jewish national socialist in it, apparently

2017-09-27 22:58:00 UTC

It's a room in which people of different ideologies and philosophies speak, apparently

2017-09-27 22:58:07 UTC

as soon as I entered someone asked "idelogy?"

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