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2017-02-20 13:13:47 UTC

because nobody likes niggers

2017-02-20 13:14:03 UTC

you're the reason a cheeto is president

2017-02-20 13:14:06 UTC

probably cause there were none in Helsinki at the start of the 1990's

2017-02-20 13:14:18 UTC

damn those days

2017-02-20 13:14:20 UTC

because Helsinki is a Nazi city

2017-02-20 13:14:28 UTC

it was at least for a short while

2017-02-20 13:14:40 UTC

nazis burned our cities

2017-02-20 13:14:49 UTC

why would Nazis burn their own cities

2017-02-20 13:14:57 UTC

after we beat the shit out of the commies

2017-02-20 13:15:08 UTC

I'm a "commie"

2017-02-20 13:15:14 UTC

show some recstep

2017-02-20 13:15:17 UTC

ok thats not nice

2017-02-20 13:15:23 UTC

no one likes you

2017-02-20 13:15:34 UTC

I don't like you

2017-02-20 13:15:39 UTC

ok cool

2017-02-20 13:16:00 UTC

do you happen to know Anders Breivik?

2017-02-20 13:16:09 UTC

sounds like a nazi

2017-02-20 13:16:21 UTC

he also beat couple future communists

2017-02-20 13:16:27 UTC

good chap

2017-02-20 13:16:48 UTC

transphobe

2017-02-20 13:16:54 UTC

what is that?

2017-02-20 13:17:03 UTC

someone who hates trans people

2017-02-20 13:17:07 UTC

ok

2017-02-20 13:17:14 UTC

why did you bring it up?

2017-02-20 13:17:21 UTC

because you hate me because I'm trans

2017-02-20 13:17:27 UTC

not a good conversation starter

2017-02-20 13:18:00 UTC

this isn't a conversation start

2017-02-20 13:18:18 UTC

@MentalSyntaxError @Mother ya'll need to nip the commies in the bud

2017-02-20 13:18:30 UTC

wow just because I'm trans

2017-02-20 13:18:36 UTC

yes

2017-02-20 13:18:46 UTC

but more so because you're a nigger

2017-02-20 13:19:04 UTC

NO TRANSNIGGERS ALLOWED AT THE AMERIKA GAB

2017-02-20 13:19:07 UTC

look

2017-02-20 13:19:13 UTC

just because I suck dick

2017-02-20 13:19:20 UTC

does not mean I deserve to be banned

2017-02-20 13:19:34 UTC

i don't think you actually suck dick

2017-02-20 13:19:51 UTC

how dare you insult my culture

2017-02-20 13:19:55 UTC

i think you play video games and consume memes and are a nigger

2017-02-20 13:20:00 UTC

lol

2017-02-20 13:20:06 UTC

and that's all you'll ever be remembered for

2017-02-20 13:20:19 UTC

why can't I do all of the above *and* suck dick

2017-02-20 13:20:48 UTC

because sucking dick would require a strength of activity

2017-02-20 13:20:50 UTC

you're a weak person

2017-02-20 13:20:54 UTC

not the way I do it

2017-02-20 13:21:13 UTC

also I'd argue that playing video games is about as much effort as sucking dick

2017-02-20 13:21:49 UTC

i agree. it's the perfect analog activity, a marker for malaise and weakness

2017-02-20 13:22:02 UTC

are you hating on sucking dick

2017-02-20 13:22:10 UTC

well guess who isn't getting their dick sucked

2017-02-20 13:22:16 UTC

you guessed wrong

2017-02-20 13:22:18 UTC

the answer is you

2017-02-20 13:23:54 UTC

i'll manage

2017-02-20 13:24:12 UTC

you might but you'll never get my commie succ

2017-02-20 13:25:18 UTC

💦💦💦

2017-02-20 13:25:50 UTC

how can i make this right

2017-02-20 13:28:40 UTC

stop appropriating culture

2017-02-20 13:29:29 UTC

ok

2017-02-20 13:29:34 UTC

i'll stop appropriating culture

2017-02-20 13:29:39 UTC

if you stop playing minecraft

2017-02-20 13:33:06 UTC

>Minecraft

2017-02-20 13:33:10 UTC

Minecraft is a meme game

2017-02-20 13:33:19 UTC

everyone left it for roblox

2017-02-20 13:50:06 UTC

Have a great Monday @everyone !

2017-02-20 14:02:05 UTC

thank you, have a nice monday too

2017-02-20 14:42:27 UTC

“So you’re saying you’ve never seen a 15-year-old girl, at any point in your life, that you thought was hot?” Yiannopoulos asked.

“Yeah, when I was 15!” Rogan replied. “I’m not retarded dude.”

2017-02-20 14:42:35 UTC

Liar

2017-02-20 14:43:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/283247301126782976/15966219_1165788483538408_5683381631588639208_n.png

2017-02-20 14:43:45 UTC

David Rosales - the craft beer

2017-02-20 14:43:53 UTC

huehuehue

2017-02-20 14:44:20 UTC

holy shit

2017-02-20 14:44:35 UTC

is he ghost writing for craft beers

2017-02-20 15:14:33 UTC

LCD - all the hops, all the priming sugar and none of the patience to do a 2-stage fermentation

2017-02-20 15:27:54 UTC

I thought this place was invite only, where are the Communists coming from

2017-02-20 15:35:50 UTC

The link is public

2017-02-20 15:35:57 UTC

It's on amerika.org

2017-02-20 15:36:43 UTC

i like that jared taylor finds the times to play with us kids

2017-02-20 15:37:07 UTC

ah. that's stupid

2017-02-20 15:47:40 UTC

Are you the rugged man

2017-02-20 15:49:15 UTC

yes

2017-02-20 15:49:53 UTC

im the dildo that gavin mcinnes stuck up the butt

2017-02-20 15:54:26 UTC

Pretty insulting to jared

2017-02-20 15:54:31 UTC

Dunno why he agreed to this

2017-02-20 16:02:33 UTC

gavin fucking sucks

2017-02-20 16:03:15 UTC

Trv

2017-02-20 16:55:46 UTC

refreshing ^

2017-02-20 17:03:13 UTC

I hate such lies @devolved

2017-02-20 17:03:22 UTC

immensely

2017-02-20 17:04:02 UTC

Which lies

2017-02-20 17:04:07 UTC

Oh right

2017-02-20 17:04:23 UTC

Seriously

2017-02-20 17:04:31 UTC

because it misleads those who mean well

2017-02-20 17:04:38 UTC

and denies the self

2017-02-20 17:04:45 UTC

by persistently speaking such lies

2017-02-20 17:04:50 UTC

one loses their connection to their own self

2017-02-20 17:05:17 UTC

there are lots of apparently little things in which people are forced to lie like this

2017-02-20 17:05:24 UTC

slowly losing their grip on "reality"

2017-02-20 17:05:44 UTC

it may not seem a big deal to acknowledge that a 15 year old girl is hot whether you are 15 or 50

2017-02-20 17:05:54 UTC

it makes the liar seem in some small way, virtuous

2017-02-20 17:06:02 UTC

that's the trap

2017-02-20 17:06:45 UTC

Lies with GASP! behind them

2017-02-20 17:06:53 UTC

is what I'll call them for now

2017-02-20 17:07:01 UTC

"black people are not as smart as white people" GASP

2017-02-20 17:07:13 UTC

"14 year old girls can be quite sexually attractive" GASP

2017-02-20 17:07:39 UTC

societal pearl clutching for satan

2017-02-20 17:07:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/283283604979843072/Joe.jpg

there is no self

2017-02-20 17:13:32 UTC

Yawn

2017-02-20 17:23:36 UTC

so what you're trying to say is that ludvig is a plant

2017-02-20 17:25:50 UTC

Swedes are demonslaves

He does seem to mindless reach for the sun

2017-02-20 17:31:14 UTC

@vry_o needs more Yoda speak

2017-02-20 17:31:21 UTC

And passive voice.

2017-02-20 17:31:35 UTC

And Fenrir likes gay shit toi

2017-02-20 17:31:43 UTC

He liked nu Abigor

2017-02-20 17:31:54 UTC

Lamo poppified RAC raw black metal.

2017-02-20 17:32:03 UTC

For hipsters

2017-02-20 17:34:00 UTC

EVERY TIME YOU USE THE MAGIC UTM CODES ON REDDIT

2017-02-20 17:34:03 UTC

IT BREAKS THEIR HEARTS

2017-02-20 18:09:19 UTC

You still use Reddit?

2017-02-20 18:10:37 UTC

Have you invited crow in here?

2017-02-20 18:25:29 UTC

here's a good idea

2017-02-20 18:26:07 UTC

all the libtards sperging about sweden being a safe place to be should have the opportunity to go there since we all know THEY WONT BE COMING BACK LOL

I'll stick to CA

2017-02-20 18:38:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/283306422467428363/FB_IMG_1487598745335.jpg

2017-02-20 18:41:45 UTC

you ever notice that with cable tv

2017-02-20 18:41:56 UTC

there's like a constant background noise beneath the dialogue or music

2017-02-20 18:41:58 UTC

like static

2017-02-20 18:42:11 UTC

it makes your head buzz

2017-02-20 18:44:45 UTC

It's all static

2017-02-20 18:44:55 UTC

Other than the Smithsonian channel

2017-02-20 18:45:03 UTC

But that's partially static

2017-02-20 19:03:52 UTC

Can I invite some one here?

2017-02-20 19:04:34 UTC

the link is already public

2017-02-20 19:19:30 UTC

GOATSE

2017-02-20 19:19:37 UTC

Do they have a loft bed too?

2017-02-20 19:25:47 UTC

An Alt-Righter with opinion on matching shoes and socks properly hatches from the egg

2017-02-20 19:29:13 UTC

Wrath of Gnon is the #1 ovenposter there is

2017-02-20 19:31:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/283319824006774785/Untitled6.png

2017-02-20 19:47:26 UTC

altright book club Resergence is having our book club meeting in about 15 mins on https://discord.gg/N7EAkcB that discord server. feel free to join us even if you've never read The Master and margarita!

2017-02-20 19:50:40 UTC

@Jossi I'll skip this one Ever since I haven't got time to read the book due to tons of stuff i've been doing

2017-02-20 19:50:53 UTC

If you do postpone it in the end i'll have it read

2017-02-20 19:53:55 UTC

okay we are thinking of putting it off until like the 28 or so

2017-02-20 19:54:21 UTC

depends on how many people showo up

2017-02-20 21:20:59 UTC

SODOMIZE

2017-02-20 21:21:00 UTC

THE

2017-02-20 21:21:02 UTC

WEAK

2017-02-20 21:21:03 UTC

AND

2017-02-20 21:21:04 UTC

HAIL THE

2017-02-20 21:21:05 UTC

GOAT

@diversity_is_racism the thing I take from quantum physics is that it reaches down into representations and exposes them as such; revealing the world as an incomprehensible dark void of impulses.

If the particle, matter, whatever, doesn't appear in the form we perceive it until it's "observed" but this is the stuff we are made of, than that certainly implies the existence of something outside of that frame which is responsible. More specifically that there is something non-human doing the observation.

A quantum physicist friend of mine said that the observer effect was a misnomer and proffered "perturbation" instead. His view was such that the mere interaction of waveforms was enough to collapse them.

It didn't hit me until now however that Schopenhauer had said about how we are only conscious of something when it resists our will. So if these representations happen regardless of other humans around, the implication is that there is some discrete, multitudinous *will* at this level which, when bumping shoulders, gives rise to this very basic grade of existence we try to make sense out of using physics.

Got off track a bit. There is no god.

So anyway that perturbation is what Schopenhauer was describing from a different lense

It's cool shit

I'm incapable of taking that deeper so don't probe me bb

2017-02-20 21:27:37 UTC

I don't even know if this would be anything but junk science, to be honest. I don't know that there is something wrong with it, I don't suspect to the point that I would dismiss it but, there are trends in the scientific field that are way too humanist for their own good. Maybe observation does nothing and we just like to think it does?

The conclusion wouldn't be that you can sprout tentacles out of your arm

We definitely experience the effect

so it shouldn't be discarded

2017-02-20 21:30:08 UTC

That does not mean that a phenomenon is dependent on observation. But I understand the point.

it just means that phenomena are the result of shoulders bumping, more or less. Without such "perturbations" the world is indeterminate potential I guess. That doesn't really matter though.

Since we can't know the answer

2017-02-20 21:32:48 UTC

No. At least, not off of the models we have now. All of the uncertainty gives egg heads something to do.

We'll never get there

2017-02-20 21:34:32 UTC

But once we stop trying, we are just going to atrophy. That is the tragedy of the workaholic. I guess we could breed temperaments that make do with uncertainty without stagnance and atrophy.

We could devote energy into how to live instead

ethics

2017-02-20 21:35:17 UTC

Not to mention the other pillars.

2017-02-20 21:36:32 UTC

Imagine all of the theorizing that we get today going into high art. Music, painting, sculpting: all of these ideas of how the more subtle world would look to our material eyes and sound to our ears. It would at least be more interesting to me.

It would hit an epistemological crisis all the same

2017-02-20 21:37:22 UTC

Don't the artsy types thrive in crisis? They love it.

"well fuck, how do you write a good tune."

2017-02-20 21:38:23 UTC

All of the musicians disagreeing though working at their very best could make an all new explosion of genres and enhance already existing ones. See, they would be creating something. That would fulfill them even with all of their doubts.

yeah but that's not usually the result of theorizing

Theorizing is deconstructive

rationality that is

It's not a creative force

2017-02-20 21:42:26 UTC

I disagree. Look at Marilyn Manson. His theorizing on the occult led to many of his albums.

I don't know what you mean by his theorizing

2017-02-20 21:43:14 UTC

I disagree that it can't be creative or lend itself to creativity, not that theorizing isn't deconstructive.

It's literally how the understanding works: it breaks down the "whole" into parts to reason about it. A la categorization

2017-02-20 21:44:06 UTC

Sitting around and theorizing on how something is. What it is like. What it's properties are. These deep thoughts lead to impressions in the mind that lead to creativity.

2017-02-20 21:48:44 UTC

How is quantum physics humanist

You know all that wank music out there? The stuff that relies heavily on rational faculties as opposed to our non-rational ones? It doesn't leave a strong impression does it

That's the sort of shit that is derived from artistic theories

I don't think marlyin Manson's aspirations of being the next Alice Cooper using his library card to read occult literature to shock mommy is really a strong example.

2017-02-20 21:54:27 UTC

@profagonist It isn't. However, the immediate conclusion that a phenomenon must be experienced to have certain properties is. There have been a lot of physicists who rent seek from government grants jumping to these conclusions and others in the "string theory" line of thinking just to publish something. The assumption that humans hold a central role in the universe is humanist.

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ I would assume that the wank music is there to entertain and to masquerade as art, obsessed with finding "unique" notes and being too self fascinated. When you have deep impressions of immaterial forces, it isn't very rational. When you want to capture an impression and relay it as deeply as possible through your medium, it could make for good music depending on the skill and investment of the artist.

2017-02-20 21:55:35 UTC

I don't think that's a belief many physicists hold, actually I'd say most think the opposite

2017-02-20 21:56:07 UTC

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ Furthermore, we have a dearth of skill among the arts these days. Hopefully, the skilled will elbow the unskilled out of the way. Mediocrity really gets more attention than it deserves.

@profagonist I agree. But THOSE physicists have real jobs.

2017-02-20 21:56:09 UTC

Physics is basically about arguing against that anthropocentrism

2017-02-20 21:56:46 UTC

I agree, again, but that does not mean that everyone with the piece of paper sticks to studying physical laws.

2017-02-20 21:56:48 UTC

I feel like you're describing more Deepak Chopra than a scientist

2017-02-20 21:57:12 UTC

The Tao of Physics and all that. But that is the subject that gets the most reads though.

2017-02-20 21:57:14 UTC

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ I SEE IT MORE AS A FUNCTIONAL SYSTEM

2017-02-20 21:57:20 UTC

THE OBSERVER DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HUMAN

2017-02-20 21:57:29 UTC

THUS THE ACT OF OBSERVATION LINKS OBSERVER AND OBSERVED

Have you considered that needing to find novelty is driven by the collapse of that particular medium? They try to find something unique because they came in at a point at which everything which could be said has been said, in terms of diminishing returns? Also that the intellectualizing has removed all the mystery of the genre itself and with that, anything to explore.

2017-02-20 21:57:46 UTC

So you mean the vestments of science on humanist philosophy @-A?

2017-02-20 21:58:01 UTC

THIS IN TURN IMPLIES IDEALISM: INTERACTION IS A RESULT OF PRESENCE/RESPONSE TO SOMETHING, NOT MATERIALITY PER SE

2017-02-20 21:58:09 UTC

I object to that popular science propaganda shit too

wait dearth of skill? Dude, plenty of people who can't play for shit made good music

@diversity_is_racism yeah that's what I was saying minus idealism

2017-02-20 21:59:13 UTC

@profagonist It at the very least seems to give the impression that it is more widespread that it should be. Maybe it isn't.

But I took out observation

2017-02-20 21:59:34 UTC

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ ALSO SKILL CAN MEAN LISTENING

2017-02-20 21:59:43 UTC

SOME ARE SKILLED MUSICIANS BY OUTLOOK, NOT ACTUAL MECHANICS

2017-02-20 21:59:54 UTC

THE IDEALISM IS ESSENTIAL

2017-02-20 22:00:04 UTC

IF INTERACTION LINKS THINGS, THERE IS NO DECONSTRUCTION

2017-02-20 22:00:06 UTC

AND

2017-02-20 22:00:10 UTC

@diversity_is_racism Why does there HAVE to be an observer at all? I don't understand because it seems like it is a conclusion that is just leapt to for no reason other than to uphold the idea that obervation leads to event.

2017-02-20 22:00:13 UTC

ALL OF THE UNIVERSE ACTS AS A LARGE CALCULATION

I'm still coming across good rap and electronic releases but it's easy to see that it takes more and more effort for only marginal returns.

2017-02-20 22:00:57 UTC

@-A THAT IS HOW MOST UNDERSTAND IT: "OBSERVATION LEADS TO EVENT" TRANS. TO "INTENT => EVENT"

2017-02-20 22:01:46 UTC

@diversity_is_racism Okay, that observation must lead to occurence?

intentionality

not really observation

Hence the perturbation

Being the clash of intentions

2017-02-20 22:04:37 UTC

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ They can at least understand what good music is. That is a skill in and of itself apparently. With the collapse of a medium because all has been said, the beauty of music is that you don't need words (such as the electronica you keep coming by, which I also like) so sure, the words have been said but has the sound been made? Maybe, maybe not. When there is this impression you want to express, it encourages creativity. Maybe it will be nothing new save for the order or how long ago it was done? Maybe it will be completely new. One's inner model leads to creativity.

I disagree that there is anything to understand about "good" music.

Since what we experience is aesthetic

I think you underestimate the degree to which your inner model is dependent upon the cultural model you were born into

2017-02-20 22:11:56 UTC

Meh. Maybe. I just think theorizing leads to impression and impression leads to expression and that this could at least make for new creation. Some will be good, some will not.

It's almost always the other way around and that's as true of music as it is of broader cultural trends. They always start out more visceral, irrational and maybe a bit simplistic and end up abstract, rational, ornate.

But

The key here

Is that the second "phase" is derived from the first

Look what people did in response to death metal? They went primitive as hell with black metal

What happened in rock after prog

punk came out

2017-02-20 22:19:06 UTC

Where does this visceral quality come from? One of those things that can't be known?

immediate experience

2017-02-20 22:20:39 UTC

Therefore, the emotions that these experiences make? A reflection of these experiences?

it's more than emotion isn't it

2017-02-20 22:23:42 UTC

Could we have the flairs from /r/askaconservative/ on /r/new_right plus a few additional ones e.g NRX TRP MRA MGTOW DE etc?

2017-02-20 22:26:20 UTC

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ Sure. But emotion and intellect are the core of art. The desire to create and to reflect on nature or even their own ideas.

@redpillavatar in art? Or on the chat?

2017-02-20 22:26:38 UTC

on Reddit

Nah the intellect is responsible for abstract concepts

An important feature of early artistic movements is that those who were around routinely attest to "not knowing what to call it, in those days"

So they lack anything grounded in abstract concepts like "black metal" or "punk"

Ergo, not intellectual

2017-02-20 22:36:47 UTC

The intuition more than the intellect. The intuition makes for a great modelling mechanism and internal impressions.

The intuition isn't a modeler

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