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2017-08-04 19:14:57 UTC

Yeah the stats for the Russian deaths in world war 2 are mind boggling

2017-08-04 19:15:07 UTC

locusts

2017-08-04 19:15:31 UTC

Soviet history is so interesting though, if any of you haven't read much about it, I'd recommend too because it's great history, even if you hate communism like me

2017-08-04 19:26:46 UTC

i don't see how this will positively impact americans

2017-08-04 19:27:53 UTC

if anything, it sounds like a buffer to assuage the interests of the poor while they're slowly replaced with automation

2017-08-04 19:34:27 UTC

Is that a bad thing

2017-08-04 19:39:30 UTC

it is when the middle class is still being depleted

2017-08-04 19:48:41 UTC

incoherent waffle

2017-08-04 19:50:49 UTC

so far 50% of the 20 manufacturers I emailed responded within 24 hours, and 80% of them sent me fairly reasonable emails

2017-08-04 19:50:57 UTC

so I figure at this point it comes down to sample and quotes

2017-08-04 19:51:06 UTC

see who can help Muh Margin the most

2017-08-04 19:57:08 UTC

@fallot this essay was too long for my lunch walk but I will finish it then talk about it soon

2017-08-04 20:02:55 UTC

alright

2017-08-04 20:03:13 UTC

@Deleted User 57835c2c what are you doing about the possibility of being cheated?

2017-08-04 20:03:37 UTC

I'm cumming into butt

2017-08-04 20:03:46 UTC

I mean coming into butte

2017-08-04 20:03:51 UTC

Montana

2017-08-04 20:04:41 UTC

Butte is neat

2017-08-04 20:04:54 UTC

it has the world's biggest open pit full of mining sludge

2017-08-04 20:05:11 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2017-08-04 20:05:16 UTC

@fallot taking measures

2017-08-04 20:05:21 UTC

one measure is paying only 30% up front

2017-08-04 20:05:41 UTC

another is the fact that a lot of this is off of Global Sources, which has higher standards than a joint like alibaba

2017-08-04 20:05:46 UTC

you've read that 4chan post yes?

2017-08-04 20:05:50 UTC

of course

2017-08-04 20:05:58 UTC

alright, good luck

2017-08-04 20:06:02 UTC

I know what morlocks are about

2017-08-04 20:06:23 UTC

it may be worth their while to cheat you out of 30% is what I was thinking

2017-08-04 20:06:29 UTC

so currently what I am selling will be for a goal price of $30, I can get them manufactured for like $6.50/unit so far

2017-08-04 20:06:41 UTC

well the places I'm going through are brokers almost, they have a sort of insurance against that kind of thing

2017-08-04 20:06:48 UTC

so in theory if that happened I would have recourse

2017-08-04 20:07:34 UTC

so $6.50 per unit to the port... then probably another 0.6-1 for shipping... so about $7-8 to get my $30 product from China to the shipping warehouse

2017-08-04 20:07:49 UTC

so hopefully I get a fat margin off this

2017-08-04 20:10:15 UTC

what's the shipping cost from warehouse to customer

2017-08-04 20:16:53 UTC

from warehouse to customer, I'm not sure but it's incorporated in amazon costs. I think that ends up being like another $7

2017-08-04 20:17:56 UTC

I have to review my calculations but it's like... (price) - (shipping + amazon fees + ads) = margin. In my case that looks something like $30-(7+7+1)=$15

2017-08-04 20:18:22 UTC

probably will end up more like $10 when all is said and done, stuff has a way of adding up, but making $10 on something that sells 1000 units a month is fine by me

2017-08-04 20:19:27 UTC

it doesn't even have to be perfect, because I'm going to turn around and start another product as immediately as possible and repeat until ballin'

2017-08-04 20:20:06 UTC

repeat until ballin' lol

2017-08-04 20:21:47 UTC

literally is that

2017-08-04 20:22:43 UTC

if it makes remotely that much money then I will buy more software tools to help me do this with less effort, thus be able to scale it up more easily

2017-08-04 20:23:32 UTC

like crap that will calculate reorders for me

2017-08-04 20:25:45 UTC

so my profit will momentarily go down due to the new expense, but then double as I add more products that I can now responsibly manage

2017-08-04 20:31:15 UTC

one time, in my errant youth, I grew magic mushrooms

2017-08-04 20:32:12 UTC

and the way I did it was so easy and scalable that i sold everything I grew for like $3000 to this dude I knew that was moving tons of drugs

2017-08-04 20:32:37 UTC

and then I thought about how easy it would be to do 10 or 100 times that much and got freaked out and quit

2017-08-04 20:32:58 UTC

it basically takes brass balls to have money

2017-08-04 20:33:23 UTC

it almost requires spiritual enlightenment to have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in something and watch it ride out the peaks and troughs

2017-08-04 20:33:55 UTC

Yeah. But drug money seemed too tricky ultimately. I had other options so I discarded the idea

2017-08-04 20:33:56 UTC

who knows, maybe you would be able to proceed now

2017-08-04 20:34:33 UTC

in my case, I've basically always been like I'm on cocaine, all grandiose and narcissistic and ballsy

2017-08-04 20:34:46 UTC

I feel like I was born to do this kind of crap, I don't even feel alive unless I am

2017-08-04 20:35:07 UTC

I literally need to be taking some kind of risk almost every day or I feel dead inside

2017-08-04 20:35:49 UTC

I'm very risk averse.

2017-08-04 20:36:19 UTC

naturally

2017-08-04 20:37:31 UTC

there comes a time I believe when every man realizes he is taking risks every single day he's alive whether he wants to or not, and that he will one day eventually die no matter how careful he is

2017-08-04 20:37:46 UTC

that's when people start turning everything into a calculated risk and getting ballsy

2017-08-04 20:37:56 UTC

Yeah that is basically where I am.

2017-08-04 20:38:30 UTC

like... if I'm leaving this world in a hospital bed no matter what I do, I might as well do something kickass

2017-08-04 20:38:38 UTC

it's not my nature, but it has to become my second nature

2017-08-04 20:38:59 UTC

that's how all of us leave this world

2017-08-04 20:39:12 UTC

when you start seeing people die and it stops being shocking to you, it makes you think a lot

2017-08-04 20:40:01 UTC

little old ladies in nursing homes who don't wake up, people dying of horrible injuries, people getting surgery and dying on the table, wasting away from cancer, busting a blood vessel and just passing out one last time, falling and hitting their head and then getting a brain bleed and getting really demented suddenly, etc

2017-08-04 20:40:17 UTC

I am amazed most docs can see that kind of shit and not reexamine their lives and why they do any of it

2017-08-04 20:40:32 UTC

life's too short for a lot of things, and it's way too fuckin' short to take peoples' orders and do what they say

2017-08-04 20:41:41 UTC

I don't mind taking orders from people whose orders I want to take. My current boss is like that, which is why I'm working for him. I like what he does and he's the best at it in the region and I'm learning a lot working for him.

2017-08-04 20:41:58 UTC

But I broadly agree. I'll leave here when it ceases to suit me or benefit me.

2017-08-04 20:42:03 UTC

you could be living your own life instead

2017-08-04 20:42:07 UTC

the clock is ticking nigga

2017-08-04 20:42:18 UTC

what else could you be doing? lying on a beach? having wild sex? writing great music?

2017-08-04 20:42:31 UTC

I hate beaches.

2017-08-04 20:43:07 UTC

I like the mountains, which is why I'm where I am. I like my girl, I like the things i do every day. I'm pretty self-actualized.

2017-08-04 20:43:26 UTC

I'm not at the point in my self-development where I have the tools to do my own shit yet.

2017-08-04 20:43:45 UTC

But I will. Next couple years probably.

2017-08-04 20:43:56 UTC

you're self actualized?

2017-08-04 20:44:06 UTC

you mean your Trve Self works in an office?

2017-08-04 20:44:28 UTC

Yeah. I'm basically a sperg. I love super detailed legal shit.

2017-08-04 20:44:47 UTC

so given anarchic freedom you'd still do it? what do you do, paralegal? lawyer?

2017-08-04 20:44:51 UTC

lawyer

2017-08-04 20:45:36 UTC

interesting. what area of law?

2017-08-04 20:45:37 UTC

If I had fuck you money, I'd probably do something pretty similar. I'm really involved in energy policy in my state.

2017-08-04 20:45:41 UTC

energy

2017-08-04 20:45:48 UTC

tell you what

2017-08-04 20:45:53 UTC

I would do it less hours per week that's for sure

2017-08-04 20:46:07 UTC

if I get fuck you money (which I hope to, rather quickly in fact), I will seek out your services entirely on the basis of you being altright

2017-08-04 20:47:23 UTC

haha

2017-08-04 20:47:39 UTC

do you need a wind farm or solar array built?

2017-08-04 20:48:14 UTC

you know I bet I could get spergs to donate to it as a nonprofit

2017-08-04 20:48:30 UTC

do you know much about taxes and their evasion/avoidance/avoision?

2017-08-04 20:49:01 UTC

if not, simply being able to tell me how to find the kind of lolyer I need would be a huge help

2017-08-04 20:49:03 UTC

I know some about taxes and how to take advantage of legal tax shelters. I don't know anything about how to evade them without getting caught.

2017-08-04 20:49:53 UTC

but I can't give you advice because I am not licensed to practice in your state.

2017-08-04 20:49:58 UTC

basically the question I need answered is.... if I have an LLC or S-corp producing dough, and I want to move it to a trust and invest it in conventional assets, what's the most tax efficient way to go from A to B?

2017-08-04 20:50:18 UTC

so far everyone says "that's a hard question, you need competent lawyers in that area," but I don't know how to even find them

2017-08-04 20:50:30 UTC

so maybe you could point me in a direction

2017-08-04 20:50:51 UTC

would be willing to use ovreseas options and even bitcoin

2017-08-04 20:54:27 UTC

I would look for highly rated firms in your state that have a tax practice. If you want the best of the best, you're probably talking about firms like Skadden or Orrick or Akin Gump or Alston & Bird or something like that in LA.

2017-08-04 20:54:40 UTC

But that's probably overkill for what you want.

2017-08-04 20:54:54 UTC

firms with estate planning practices would probably also have the info you want

2017-08-04 20:58:58 UTC

my guess is, and this isn't advice, is that they'll tell you to max out tax-sheltered investment vehicles like a 401(k) (which you can sponsor for yourself under a certain self-employment provision or as an LLC) and a "backdoor" IRA

2017-08-04 20:59:15 UTC

You would then just pay income taxes on income you are paid from the trust

2017-08-04 20:59:37 UTC

for which a certain deduction is available, iirc

2017-08-04 21:01:49 UTC

taxes on capital gains in complex trusts gets into a level of specialization I don't have

2017-08-04 21:03:52 UTC

S-Corp is a good idea since you seem to be funneling everything into long term investments, but you would want to check on how your state treats S-Corps because it varies a lot and some just treat them as regular old C-corps

2017-08-04 21:04:14 UTC

I see

2017-08-04 21:04:40 UTC

I do not consider 401gay to be a tax shelter

2017-08-04 21:04:51 UTC

Are you an actual lawyer @UOC

2017-08-04 21:04:56 UTC

yes

2017-08-04 21:04:57 UTC

retirement accounts are no good for me unless they are going to provide me a tax advantage on paying my bills from them at age 31

2017-08-04 21:04:57 UTC

Or just a fag

2017-08-04 21:05:02 UTC

Oh cool

2017-08-04 21:05:02 UTC

lawfag

2017-08-04 21:05:21 UTC

I will take your advice though

2017-08-04 21:05:27 UTC

just look up tax lawyers from l33t practices

2017-08-04 21:05:51 UTC

How much money are you playing around with

2017-08-04 21:05:59 UTC

Out of curiosity

2017-08-04 21:06:13 UTC

If you want to pay out of accounts at 31, don't use the common tax sheltered stuff. But depending on what you want to pay for, Roth IRAs have some pretty good provisions for like first time home purchases

2017-08-04 21:07:09 UTC

But IRAs and 401(k) are still a good idea because they're capped relatively low. You don't really miss out on much by contributing the 21000 total or whatever it is now, and it's a good long term hedge

2017-08-04 21:07:22 UTC

because it's pre-tax it would lower your effective income

2017-08-04 21:07:58 UTC

lowering your effective income is the name of the game in tax these days

2017-08-04 21:08:21 UTC

business write-offs, shelters, etc

2017-08-04 21:12:37 UTC

@TendieLord He's projecting 6 figures annually from this scheme

2017-08-04 21:12:47 UTC

1-200 I think he said

2017-08-04 21:13:05 UTC

worth getting tax advice for sure

2017-08-04 21:13:28 UTC

What scheme

2017-08-04 21:13:41 UTC

selling chinese trash to idiots

2017-08-04 21:13:44 UTC

Is he prostituting himself?

2017-08-04 21:13:48 UTC

Oh that scheme

2017-08-04 21:13:58 UTC

Oldest trick in the book

2017-08-04 21:14:10 UTC

Well, second oldest

2017-08-04 21:14:17 UTC

After sucking dick

2017-08-04 21:14:21 UTC

lol

2017-08-04 21:14:33 UTC

I am going to commission somebody to make shirts for us saying that

2017-08-04 21:15:01 UTC

Is the Chinese trash you're selling Asian gfs?

2017-08-04 21:15:23 UTC

no, those at least have some intrinsic value

2017-08-04 21:15:31 UTC

Shit

2017-08-04 21:15:37 UTC

you could at least compost those or something

2017-08-04 21:15:43 UTC

what I'm selling is far more useless than that

2017-08-04 21:16:24 UTC

Would you become a slave trader if it was legalized

2017-08-04 21:16:34 UTC

I think I might

2017-08-04 21:16:42 UTC

if it was legalized I definitely would

2017-08-04 21:16:47 UTC

I would sell POCs for money

2017-08-04 21:16:57 UTC

or rather hire someone to do it for me so I don't have to even look at them

2017-08-04 21:17:02 UTC

tfw no exotic oriental slave gf

2017-08-04 21:17:34 UTC

I'd hope to see homesteading, polygamy and slavery all legalized

2017-08-04 21:17:34 UTC

What kind of trash

2017-08-04 21:21:07 UTC

I should try ordering tobacco from the states. Just a couple of tins at a time to see if they decide to gouge me

2017-08-04 21:24:11 UTC

it's really weird to see non-fit people being exercise scientists

2017-08-04 21:25:03 UTC

Quite a common phenomena

2017-08-04 21:25:20 UTC

or non-rich people being economists

2017-08-04 21:25:55 UTC

What is the explanation for this

2017-08-04 21:26:10 UTC

I had a friend who used to buy weed from a cop

2017-08-04 21:26:22 UTC

who got the weed by shaking down people smoking weed

2017-08-04 21:26:30 UTC

happens a lot back home

2017-08-04 21:26:34 UTC

this was in the US?

2017-08-04 21:26:34 UTC

so crazy to me

2017-08-04 21:26:37 UTC

I'm surprised

2017-08-04 21:26:37 UTC

yeah

2017-08-04 21:26:42 UTC

was this back in the 80's?

2017-08-04 21:26:53 UTC

couldn't have been

2017-08-04 21:26:55 UTC

No, it was just in a really mexican part of Phoenix

2017-08-04 21:27:01 UTC

what race was the cop

2017-08-04 21:27:09 UTC

well obviously it happened in a mexican area

2017-08-04 21:27:23 UTC

aztecs are savage and inferior

2017-08-04 21:27:39 UTC

well in the 70's cops would confiscate drugs/alcohol from kids and use em at their own parties

2017-08-04 21:27:40 UTC

they are basically genetically morally bad

2017-08-04 21:29:14 UTC

I like em okay. At least its a pleasant barbarism.

2017-08-04 21:29:26 UTC

what race was the cop @UOC

2017-08-04 21:29:32 UTC

I think he was white

2017-08-04 21:29:41 UTC

I never went with because I am too paranoid

2017-08-04 21:29:45 UTC

the only beaners I like are the top 10%

2017-08-04 21:29:47 UTC

good decision

2017-08-04 21:29:49 UTC

that are basically white with brown eyes

2017-08-04 21:29:56 UTC

aren't they just white

2017-08-04 21:30:01 UTC

some of them yeah

2017-08-04 21:30:07 UTC

That's like me

2017-08-04 21:30:27 UTC

My mom's family is from Spain

2017-08-04 21:30:34 UTC

fallot you pakis are far superior to beaners, the ones among you with aryan features are entirely fine to me

2017-08-04 21:30:36 UTC

Came to the US through mexico

2017-08-04 21:30:58 UTC

I've heard bad stuff about beaners, but pakis lower down the rung can be pretty bad

2017-08-04 21:31:03 UTC

Are Pakis better farmers though??

2017-08-04 21:31:19 UTC

the area is very fertile

2017-08-04 21:31:22 UTC

difficult to say

2017-08-04 21:31:24 UTC

most indians/pakis I find in the USA are actual people, though a lot of them I consider very dysgenic unfortunately

2017-08-04 21:31:25 UTC

hahahaha

2017-08-04 21:31:37 UTC

indians/pakis?

2017-08-04 21:31:40 UTC

I think my ancestry.com thing only gives me 13% Iberian and 4% Native American tho because it turns out the guy I thought was my great-great grandfather got cucked by a british dude named Robert

2017-08-04 21:32:01 UTC

lol really

2017-08-04 21:32:05 UTC

yes

2017-08-04 21:32:10 UTC

I had my own ancestry report figured out

2017-08-04 21:32:13 UTC

what's the story there

2017-08-04 21:32:20 UTC

Town doctor

2017-08-04 21:32:30 UTC

cool

2017-08-04 21:32:38 UTC

granny musta been fine

2017-08-04 21:32:45 UTC

I want to do stuff like Ancestry but they have too little data to be of use to me

2017-08-04 21:32:49 UTC

o/w doc wouldn't bother

2017-08-04 21:33:03 UTC

I was really surprised by mine

2017-08-04 21:33:13 UTC

how come?

2017-08-04 21:33:44 UTC

against all odds I am predominantly racially from the UK, on both sides, mostly scotland

2017-08-04 21:34:00 UTC

why against all odds?

2017-08-04 21:34:04 UTC

I was surprised by that because one side I thought was way wogger than that

2017-08-04 21:34:09 UTC

oh

2017-08-04 21:34:12 UTC

turns out they are scots with a med last name

2017-08-04 21:34:15 UTC

that's exactly like me and the spanish stuff ha

2017-08-04 21:35:40 UTC

one of my best IRL friends is basically all scottish but with just enough moorish to change his coloration slightly

2017-08-04 21:35:51 UTC

my clan is endogamous but I am interested in their origins

2017-08-04 21:35:58 UTC

maybe in 10-20 years

2017-08-04 21:36:01 UTC

so he's olive skinned, brown eyed and dark haired, but if you look at his features they're entirely scottish

2017-08-04 21:38:57 UTC

hey similar to our conversation about martial arts the other day and how boxing and wrestling are kind of not conceptualized as european martial arts

2017-08-04 21:39:36 UTC

people don't really think about "angles" and "saxons" and "jutes" and the rest as european tribal peoples

2017-08-04 21:39:49 UTC

yeah most of them don't

2017-08-04 21:39:53 UTC

I do of course

2017-08-04 21:40:06 UTC

yeah, I mean they are not thought of that way in the popular conception

2017-08-04 21:40:34 UTC

but when you see recreations or whatever of their clothing, it sort of triggers that realization

2017-08-04 21:48:31 UTC

how big is your clan @fallot

2017-08-04 21:49:08 UTC

oh the numbers are gone

2017-08-04 21:49:09 UTC

well the SJWs are half right in that people are blind to their own culture

2017-08-04 21:49:37 UTC

especially whites

2017-08-04 21:49:38 UTC

I'm getting 10 million worldwide

2017-08-04 21:49:46 UTC

from this website

2017-08-04 21:49:53 UTC

whites need to be taught that they are in fact white and that they do things differently than others

2017-08-04 21:49:58 UTC

I assume this is a result of geographic isolation or something

2017-08-04 21:50:07 UTC

other races rub elbows with other races more and see themselves as more distinct

2017-08-04 21:50:11 UTC

not sure this is accurate at all

2017-08-04 21:50:16 UTC

seems too big

2017-08-04 21:50:26 UTC

in fact subsets of people only slightly different will insist they are just about different species

2017-08-04 21:50:32 UTC

5 million seems about right I guess

2017-08-04 21:50:38 UTC

well I just wanted to get my scale right

2017-08-04 21:50:47 UTC

like are we talking millions or hundreds of thou

2017-08-04 21:50:51 UTC

aite

2017-08-04 21:50:51 UTC

right on

2017-08-04 21:51:24 UTC

I'm interested in our origins, the myth I think is not credible (or it may be true? dunno)

2017-08-04 21:51:36 UTC

arab migration?

2017-08-04 21:51:50 UTC

one arab patriarch

2017-08-04 21:52:04 UTC

a semi-legendary figure called Qutb Shah

2017-08-04 21:52:21 UTC

supposedly a descendant of Ali, the cousin of Muhammad and the 4th Caliph

2017-08-04 21:52:31 UTC

from his second wife, Umm-ul-Banin ("Mother of the sons")

2017-08-04 21:53:02 UTC

my grandfather outmarried though

2017-08-04 21:53:16 UTC

paternal grandfather

2017-08-04 21:53:35 UTC

his wife has origins in greater persia

2017-08-04 21:54:17 UTC

also, my family lives right at the edge of Punjabi ethnic geography

2017-08-04 21:54:21 UTC

and has for generations

2017-08-04 21:54:42 UTC

I suspect there may be Pathan (afghan) blood as well

2017-08-04 21:54:51 UTC

but who knows, endogamy is pretty strong in the indian subcontinent

2017-08-04 21:55:06 UTC

also, the Qutb Shah story doesn't answer where the rest of the blood is from

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