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2017-05-24 09:06:12 UTC

It got boring

2017-05-24 09:06:34 UTC

Told him I couldn't talk about it anymore, if he wasn't willing to talk about anything else, I could block him.

2017-05-24 09:13:57 UTC

The idea was, if his absurdity is consistently met with an even more insurmountable and persistent absurdity, he'll put it to rest and talk about something else.

2017-05-24 10:07:19 UTC

dont feed the trolls

2017-05-24 10:18:28 UTC

he is affect hungry

2017-05-24 10:18:30 UTC

a vampire

2017-05-24 12:30:35 UTC

Wild is my buddy now

2017-05-24 12:50:28 UTC

Most of the people who are convinced you are an idiot won't change their minds until terrorized

2017-05-24 12:50:42 UTC

Because whenever you present them with resistance, they consdier it just a glitch in your mind

2017-05-24 12:50:50 UTC

This is how Muslims think

2017-05-24 12:50:58 UTC

They will never be reformed through resistance

2017-05-24 12:51:18 UTC

They will just wait for a moment when you are once more relaxed to continue with their shennanigans

2017-05-24 12:51:48 UTC

It's not because they are Muslims, it's how all persistently pushy people think

2017-05-24 12:52:02 UTC

This is why the only thing that works with Muslims is violence

2017-05-24 12:52:09 UTC

But not only violence, but complete and utter terror

2017-05-24 12:52:27 UTC

You think Vlad the Impaler did what he did because he was sadistic maniac ?

2017-05-24 12:52:30 UTC

Think once more

2017-05-24 12:52:53 UTC

Turks are such being, they are overconfident and pretentious

2017-05-24 12:53:19 UTC

They consider cunningness *their* virtue and no matter what data says, they think you are stupid and that they are smart

2017-05-24 12:55:48 UTC

Ridiculous caricature. All people are just people..

2017-05-24 12:55:58 UTC

I preciselly said that

2017-05-24 12:56:08 UTC

Some people have a certain quality in abundance though

2017-05-24 12:56:37 UTC

Muslims are worldwide renowned for their pushiness

2017-05-24 13:02:32 UTC

put another way, think of europeans as a man and the rest of the world as women - europe thought it could simply relax and "be themselves" and stop running game on the rest of the planet

2017-05-24 13:03:30 UTC

I think all egalitarians, progressives and other utopian peaceniks are just naive children who can't accept that the sun never shines in hell

2017-05-24 13:07:04 UTC

Error via opposition

2017-05-24 13:07:21 UTC

One party is wrong hence in opposition we are correct

2017-05-24 13:08:54 UTC

reviewbrah is starting to look like a real man

2017-05-24 13:09:47 UTC

Western-Christian deseases of the mind

2017-05-24 13:09:54 UTC

1. Letting people who fucked you up walk away

2017-05-24 13:10:03 UTC

2. Considering vengeance futile

2017-05-24 13:10:36 UTC

3. Thinking punishing treason is wrong because the traitor might be reformed, forgetting that more important thing is giving example to other potential traitors

2017-05-24 13:20:37 UTC

devolved what did reviewbrah change

2017-05-24 13:20:43 UTC

does he still look like an aspiring car salesman

2017-05-24 13:24:21 UTC

he just looks older

2017-05-24 13:24:42 UTC
2017-05-24 13:25:00 UTC

If men didnt become couch potatoes and slobs

2017-05-24 13:25:16 UTC

they would be at their masculine prime in their late 30s and at about 40 years of age

2017-05-24 13:25:39 UTC

they would lack in endurance of a 20 something guy, but would have much increased confidence and experience

2017-05-24 13:26:05 UTC

but most men get married adn collect dog shit around their front yard

2017-05-24 13:26:49 UTC

should they not get married and pick up dog poop

2017-05-24 13:27:23 UTC

Muslims dont get married

2017-05-24 13:27:39 UTC

They invade our lands with certain women adn their spawn we *ASSUME* are their family

2017-05-24 13:27:55 UTC

but in reality, they are under no legal obligation around here, especially towards their family

2017-05-24 13:27:59 UTC

which is at their mercy

2017-05-24 13:28:08 UTC

> when in Baghdad

2017-05-24 13:28:19 UTC

all humilitating legal obligations which concern family here are forced upon white men

2017-05-24 13:28:46 UTC

who have to accept that their legal position is that of a servant and a working bee

2017-05-24 13:28:55 UTC

in the system of matriarchal materialist inferno

2017-05-24 13:29:42 UTC

Muslism and Black can meanwhile outright dump their family in an asylum center

2017-05-24 13:29:49 UTC

and go around in rape and robbing and shooting rampages

2017-05-24 13:29:56 UTC

and nobody considers they have any legal obligations

2017-05-24 13:30:34 UTC

much less that they are in any way oppressive towards their children or family, which are considered to be the victims of the levitating, ethereal victimizing mechanism

2017-05-24 13:32:14 UTC

you ask me which path can white men choose, which leaves them with dignity and sense of self-respect intact ?

2017-05-24 13:32:30 UTC

my answer is the path of stubborn anti-bourgeoisie mentality, the path of mocking law, mocking legal obligations

2017-05-24 13:32:50 UTC

mocking society and it's norms and all of societal imaginary centers of authority

2017-05-24 13:33:10 UTC

even the family model dictated by these same power centers must be mocked and substituted

2017-05-24 13:33:40 UTC

give these things once and for all the middle finger

2017-05-24 13:33:51 UTC

so when I step in dog poop in my yard

2017-05-24 13:34:02 UTC

im giving the finger to bourgeoisie power structures

2017-05-24 13:34:20 UTC

when you step in dog shit in your yard, it should remind you that your dog is better treated than you

2017-05-24 13:34:33 UTC

yes

2017-05-24 13:34:40 UTC

I dunno man I'm treated pretty well

2017-05-24 13:34:50 UTC

test that

2017-05-24 13:34:55 UTC

give it a test ride

2017-05-24 13:35:15 UTC

UOC do you have 2/3 of every day to yourself?

2017-05-24 13:35:54 UTC

merely remotely stating that your unemployed women shoud clean after you as you clean after your dog is under society the greatest tyranny there exists

2017-05-24 13:36:00 UTC

Yes. I have no billable hour requirements and I work in a position that I genuinely enjoy. I can work from home, from traveling, or take whatever time off I want

2017-05-24 13:36:28 UTC

my wife works, but when she didn't work she cleaned.

2017-05-24 13:36:39 UTC

what do you do

2017-05-24 13:37:06 UTC

nothing is worse though than living in the place where everybody else lives that way and tells you it is "the life" by its very definition

2017-05-24 13:37:12 UTC

because they start influencing you

2017-05-24 13:37:21 UTC

i represent renewable energy generation facilities.

2017-05-24 13:37:40 UTC

so you go door to door selling solar panels?

2017-05-24 13:37:43 UTC

I recognize I'm an exception. I agree with what you guys are saying broadly

2017-05-24 13:38:14 UTC

no, I sue states and force them to enforce a set of federal and state statutes collectively known as PURPA

2017-05-24 13:38:37 UTC

Just today my family wanted to convince me to pay for my post-graduate schooling somewhere abroad, like I'd just have to go study and do nothing

2017-05-24 13:38:51 UTC

And I honestly asked them what they are wasting their money on

2017-05-24 13:39:44 UTC

So i could attenda curiculum which is basically just reading bunch of books nobody cares about on a subject nobody cares about to be awarded a piece of paper which is valued only because 10 people sat down and said they are going to use it as a measure of somebody's merit

2017-05-24 13:39:51 UTC

to hell with that shit

2017-05-24 13:40:22 UTC

i wont do it even though i would be spending half time having fun

2017-05-24 13:40:59 UTC

there are litterally thousands of people around me

2017-05-24 13:41:06 UTC

who repeated the exact same very process

2017-05-24 13:41:18 UTC

which in every situation lead to exact same result - an average job

2017-05-24 13:41:30 UTC

and yet people are repeating the process over and over expecting this time it will be different

2017-05-24 13:41:34 UTC

i will be somebody different

2017-05-24 13:42:03 UTC

tell them to just give you the money to invest instead

2017-05-24 13:42:05 UTC

that would be better

2017-05-24 13:42:42 UTC

for some reason normal fucking retards have no issue with writing a check for like 100k if they think it will buy a job

2017-05-24 13:43:25 UTC

honestly even getting a job right now would be better than going for additional 2 years of studies

2017-05-24 13:43:30 UTC

it would

2017-05-24 13:43:32 UTC

because at least i will have wasted less time

2017-05-24 13:43:33 UTC

I am 100% sure of that

2017-05-24 13:43:40 UTC

you'd make money now

2017-05-24 13:43:43 UTC

you could invest it

2017-05-24 13:43:55 UTC

at least after 2 years i can quit and say i got at least something going

2017-05-24 13:44:26 UTC

other than 2 years of bourgeoisie subjects, average joes, boring books and pretending i care about international border laws or EU

2017-05-24 13:44:32 UTC

normal retards have no idea how money works at all

2017-05-24 13:44:37 UTC

I don't need to be different but I am effectively different because everyone around me hates their job and spends their money on fast food and cable tv

2017-05-24 13:45:16 UTC

no amount of wage can compensate me for the ugliness and existential misery of this world

2017-05-24 13:46:09 UTC

haha

2017-05-24 13:46:54 UTC

we basically live in the metal gear universe now

2017-05-24 13:48:03 UTC

consider this even

2017-05-24 13:48:08 UTC

this is a country of 600k people

2017-05-24 13:48:13 UTC

in even such a small place

2017-05-24 13:48:24 UTC

we have at least thousands of people who are consdiered super-duper "qualified"

2017-05-24 13:48:45 UTC

i can scan their entire life and find nothing exceptional

2017-05-24 13:48:53 UTC

not only in material matters

2017-05-24 13:49:06 UTC

but their life isn't enjoyable at all thanks to their qualifications, nor do they produce anything

2017-05-24 13:49:16 UTC

they are just another guy with a job to do for somebody else

2017-05-24 13:50:54 UTC

it's better not to invest yourself in these matters, and even if you do something merely to get paid, at least you remain detached

2017-05-24 13:51:22 UTC

for let's face it, the only really and in it's substance dignified and enjoyable work is the one that nobody gives you a paycheck for

2017-05-24 13:52:36 UTC

yes

2017-05-24 13:53:03 UTC

in today's world adult working life means being deprived of all dignity, personal agency or self expression in even the slightest matters

2017-05-24 13:54:19 UTC

I am starting to hate the shit out of psychiatry

2017-05-24 13:54:43 UTC

they talk as if depression is a brain disorder, not a natural reaction to the world as it presents itself

2017-05-24 13:54:56 UTC

"it's a brain disorder where you don't have enough serotonin lol"

2017-05-24 13:55:33 UTC

do you live in a big city

2017-05-24 13:55:34 UTC

horrible experience of life with no hope for the future->fucking magnets->magical decrease in serotonin->pill fixes it

2017-05-24 13:55:39 UTC

yes

2017-05-24 13:55:47 UTC

a hive

2017-05-24 13:55:51 UTC

yuck

2017-05-24 13:55:54 UTC

dalit hive

2017-05-24 13:56:03 UTC

I am in a small town for the first time and it's a world of difference

2017-05-24 13:56:17 UTC

well yeah you live on the scale people were meant to live

2017-05-24 13:56:33 UTC

we are moving right now and we have to be home so dalits can come into our place and look at it

2017-05-24 13:57:16 UTC

yeah. it feels that way. I have plans to move back to a city in a year or two but I'm trying to slither out of it. after a year of walking to work I can't imagine getting in a car and joining the freeway of ants

2017-05-24 13:58:01 UTC

it's funny how a long commute --> magnets --> no seratonin

2017-05-24 13:59:27 UTC

yes

2017-05-24 13:59:37 UTC

hellish life->???->omg brain chemicals 😦

2017-05-24 13:59:48 UTC

maybe, just maybe, we are people and this is an unacceptable way to live

2017-05-24 14:00:00 UTC

just a thought I guess

2017-05-24 14:56:17 UTC

a person I work with has been out of the office for two days at a critical time

2017-05-24 14:56:22 UTC

due to an asthma attack

2017-05-24 14:56:45 UTC

which would normally not bother me except that knowing he has asthma really makes his thrice daily smoke breaks look pretty fucking stupid

2017-05-24 15:00:47 UTC

@UOC your job seems to be evil

2017-05-24 15:00:51 UTC

How do you cope

2017-05-24 15:01:42 UTC

Or is it not an issue?

2017-05-24 15:01:57 UTC

The only people hurt by my job are the corporate structure of power companies

2017-05-24 15:02:11 UTC

who have a state-granted monopoly on a service area

2017-05-24 15:02:44 UTC

I see. Does it not introduce a large amount of bureaucratic inefficiency

2017-05-24 15:02:55 UTC

Leading to effects ar the bottom

2017-05-24 15:03:07 UTC

I.e. workforce of those power companies?

2017-05-24 15:03:24 UTC

They need to by federal law

2017-05-24 15:03:37 UTC

Ensure a portion of power gen is renewable right?

2017-05-24 15:03:41 UTC

Man. I could go on about this for days. It all starts with the concept of how power companies make money.

2017-05-24 15:04:17 UTC

I appreciate the part where power structures receive pressure

2017-05-24 15:04:28 UTC

But as the governing standards are evil

2017-05-24 15:04:38 UTC

Meant to promote waste etc

2017-05-24 15:04:42 UTC

The state sets a price that includes a certain percentage of profit. This gives power companies a perverse incentive to develop unnecessary projects then recoup those costs + profit margins through raised electricity rates.

2017-05-24 15:04:50 UTC

It seems a greater evil than power company evil

2017-05-24 15:05:00 UTC

Go on

2017-05-24 15:05:32 UTC

To answer your question, there is a ton of bureaucracy. De-regulation could solve a lot of that but also presents certain problems.

2017-05-24 15:06:21 UTC

I think it's unlikely that the grid is developed enough that everyone could have reasonably affordable power on demand with a fully de-regulated grid right now. Maybe in the near future.

2017-05-24 15:06:40 UTC

What is your own opinion on renewable energy

2017-05-24 15:06:45 UTC

In general

2017-05-24 15:07:56 UTC

ESSENTIAL

2017-05-24 15:09:44 UTC

Also another set of questions

2017-05-24 15:09:50 UTC

From a climate change standpoint, I'm not really qualified to address the question. I am skeptical of climate models. On the balance though, I would prefer a power source with non-deleterious effects on my local environment. I respect nature and think there are good reasons to preserve it.

The problem is more of an economic and political one. Renewable energy is not developed right now to the point that you can simply replace high-capacity baseload generation (coal, natural gas) with renewables and have all the nice things we have now, like all the power we want for cheap whenever we want it. This is true because we haven't solved certain fundamental problems (efficient transport, storage, intermittency).

2017-05-24 15:10:03 UTC

Nuclear power could solve many of our issues but is politically unpopular.

2017-05-24 15:10:13 UTC

Yes I agree with you entirely

2017-05-24 15:10:22 UTC

Thanks

2017-05-24 15:10:44 UTC

The other question

2017-05-24 15:10:55 UTC

Seeing as you work for the fed gov

2017-05-24 15:11:00 UTC

no i'm private

2017-05-24 15:11:03 UTC

Oh

2017-05-24 15:11:16 UTC

I deal with the feds once in a while. I worked for a state government previously

2017-05-24 15:11:17 UTC

Fedgov hires you?

2017-05-24 15:11:26 UTC

Private renewable companies hire me

2017-05-24 15:11:32 UTC

to sue the state or the feds

2017-05-24 15:11:38 UTC

Ohhh

2017-05-24 15:11:39 UTC

Wow

2017-05-24 15:11:52 UTC

who then require the utility companies to buy the power we generate

2017-05-24 15:12:02 UTC

since we can't sell directly to customers, since the utilities have a monopoly

2017-05-24 15:14:17 UTC

btw is your avatar the Minas Morgul album cover? that's awesome

2017-05-24 15:14:36 UTC

power companies are weird

2017-05-24 15:14:40 UTC

i used to work for one

2017-05-24 15:14:53 UTC

straddling government monopoly and business

2017-05-24 15:16:02 UTC

Yeah. it's a weird industry. it's really under the hood for most people.

2017-05-24 15:16:28 UTC

crazy how much it takes to make the light go on when you flick the switch

2017-05-24 15:17:26 UTC

being a lawyer in the power industry sounds pretty great

2017-05-24 15:17:29 UTC

it's cushy af

2017-05-24 15:17:41 UTC

what was your pre-law

2017-05-24 15:17:47 UTC

english lit

2017-05-24 15:24:29 UTC

Yes @UOC

2017-05-24 15:24:39 UTC

Are you into metal music?

2017-05-24 15:37:36 UTC

yes

2017-05-24 15:37:49 UTC

all music, but people usually say "all music" then mean "not metal and not country'

2017-05-24 15:48:50 UTC

isn't this a face of a man which says "will work extra hours for a paycheck and will repeat bullshit for social approval"

2017-05-24 15:49:05 UTC

English lit was not the best choice and not the worst choice. I would say I missed a lot of opportunities in college due to left-wing / modernist brainwashing, but I also avoided major pitfalls thanks to a reasonable upbringing and old school parents

2017-05-24 15:53:56 UTC

is that alec guiness

2017-05-24 15:57:50 UTC

why is there so much arguing here

2017-05-24 15:58:01 UTC

some incel comes in and spams suicide stuf

2017-05-24 15:58:08 UTC

antisex isnt a thing btw

2017-05-24 16:09:38 UTC

what i really don't like about the new right

2017-05-24 16:09:45 UTC

is the amount of dishonesty there exists

2017-05-24 16:10:05 UTC

especially when discussing certain "uncomfortable" matters which deviate from the party line

2017-05-24 16:10:20 UTC

because everyone thinks that if you tell them the truth

2017-05-24 16:10:32 UTC

that it is how you WANT things to be, and not simply stating the matter of fact

2017-05-24 16:11:27 UTC

of course, in propaganda matters you must be careful what kind of sentiments you emit

2017-05-24 16:11:44 UTC

but when talking among each others, people should refrain from dishonest poseuring

2017-05-24 16:12:39 UTC

I think I agree. Can you give an example of a dishonesty bothering you?

2017-05-24 16:13:02 UTC

Is it like r/The_Donald pretending like LEGAL immigrants are great?

2017-05-24 16:13:09 UTC

No

2017-05-24 16:13:22 UTC

I'm talking about what I feel isaac tried to confront

2017-05-24 16:13:31 UTC

My sentiments about realities of modern family life

2017-05-24 16:13:43 UTC

People tell you that when you state realities

2017-05-24 16:13:50 UTC

that you are "anti-family"

2017-05-24 16:14:21 UTC

and that is not according to party line where families should be abundant and with many children

2017-05-24 16:14:30 UTC

but im merely stating the facts of family life as-is

2017-05-24 16:14:46 UTC

and people then pettifog about it and say how it's just my experience

2017-05-24 16:15:38 UTC

and when I point to them the obvious patterns of modern family life they say how I'm just being subversive

2017-05-24 16:19:30 UTC

subversive lol

2017-05-24 16:21:09 UTC

what was i arguing

2017-05-24 16:21:15 UTC

i just asked why you guys arguong

2017-05-24 16:21:22 UTC

i didnt make any other statemant than that

2017-05-24 16:21:27 UTC

Its not that deep

2017-05-24 16:21:27 UTC

the new right is just a smaller version of the dynamic of the old right. At least in the US. It's a coalition. In the old right, the an-caps and the christian fundies have to vote for the same guy, even though they share basically no beliefs. In the new right, dark enlightenment types are yolked to people who want to restore the monarchy or whatever. No two people agree on everything.

2017-05-24 16:21:54 UTC

lol

2017-05-24 16:22:10 UTC

traditionalists feel like you're attacking their utopian family ideal I guess

2017-05-24 16:22:20 UTC
2017-05-24 16:22:23 UTC

yes

2017-05-24 16:22:27 UTC

him

2017-05-24 16:22:34 UTC

no

2017-05-24 16:22:46 UTC

im just wondering why he was debating an opinion that wasnt there

2017-05-24 16:26:37 UTC

what for traditionalists passes as a traditional family ideal

2017-05-24 16:26:46 UTC

is just conservative gibberish

2017-05-24 16:27:10 UTC

first we need to dispell the first nonsense postulate of conservative "traditional" family roles

2017-05-24 16:27:19 UTC

where the role of the father is that of someone who supports family

2017-05-24 16:27:28 UTC

which is utter nonsense

2017-05-24 16:27:47 UTC

the father is merely the most capable part of the family, and his primary role is that of a defender

2017-05-24 16:28:00 UTC

as far as support goes, other than fertile months of the mother

2017-05-24 16:28:15 UTC

the entire community, since the dawn of humanity, worked towards supporting it's members

2017-05-24 16:28:30 UTC

especially that is more so in agrarian families and shepherd families

2017-05-24 16:28:41 UTC

the relegation of man's dignty by modern conservatives

2017-05-24 16:28:44 UTC

to that of a working bee

2017-05-24 16:29:16 UTC

is a criminal protestant-judaic-teutonic liberal-matriarchal concoction which needs to be sent back to hell from which it emerged

2017-05-24 16:30:30 UTC

even more so, the basic goods for a society, for day to day use

2017-05-24 16:30:41 UTC

are par exellence a product of female intellect

2017-05-24 16:30:57 UTC

it is male's intellect which produces long lasting cultural products which survive to this day

2017-05-24 16:31:12 UTC

namely weapons, art, temples, and such

2017-05-24 16:31:26 UTC

as far as female products go, it's usually just pottery

2017-05-24 16:31:54 UTC

man is a nature's being of borderlines, of frontier

2017-05-24 16:32:03 UTC

he hunts, scouts, makes defenses

2017-05-24 16:32:40 UTC

it isn't a coincidence that the most masculine and patriarchal ideals were always born there, where existed a strong "border" identity

2017-05-24 16:33:11 UTC

what

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