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2017-05-22 18:18:16 UTC

Thanks man

2017-05-22 18:18:54 UTC

ive been trying to find a way to word it without being a stormfront goon

2017-05-22 18:20:26 UTC

but ive given up explaining that i just care about white issues lmao

2017-05-22 18:20:48 UTC

a lot of whites do themselves in TBH

2017-05-22 18:20:56 UTC

its sad

2017-05-22 18:21:17 UTC

theres so many cultures and people that make up the white identity its crazy

2017-05-22 18:22:00 UTC

but its mostly husky tumblr girls that browbeat and cuck their white boyfriends into self flagellation

2017-05-22 18:23:30 UTC

a big part of my family is our irish heritage and its all we have since our borough became tortilla flats

2017-05-22 18:25:22 UTC

the majority of my family doesnt live here and it feels alienating to be told i shouldnt celebrate it or that leprechauns are black and i'm appropriating and that fuckin incel >irish men are the most oppressed meme

2017-05-22 18:33:50 UTC

it's not white genocide, it's white suicide

2017-05-22 18:34:08 UTC

with everyone else egging it on.

2017-05-22 18:34:13 UTC

Which is same either way.

2017-05-22 18:34:16 UTC

dying young is not as much of a concern as not having children

2017-05-22 18:34:24 UTC

Im not a supremecist in any means btw.

2017-05-22 18:34:26 UTC

white people don't have enough children

2017-05-22 18:34:33 UTC

i hope yall dont think i am

2017-05-22 18:34:51 UTC

i just think specific communities have issues they gotta deal with on their own

2017-05-22 18:34:52 UTC

don't worry about it, wouldn't matter if you were

2017-05-22 18:35:16 UTC

yeah white nationalism has great traction in the common sense realm

2017-05-22 18:35:26 UTC

I always give the example of Chinese people

2017-05-22 18:35:39 UTC

your average Chinese person is a race realist etc.

2017-05-22 18:35:47 UTC


2017-05-22 18:35:51 UTC

even the average third worlder

2017-05-22 18:35:53 UTC

They breed for excellency too

2017-05-22 18:36:03 UTC

In china

2017-05-22 18:36:06 UTC

people misunderstand eugenics a bit I think

2017-05-22 18:36:13 UTC

traditional society is already eugenic

2017-05-22 18:36:38 UTC

Yeah but its so strong in asian society that they cant really call it out as if it were shocking

2017-05-22 18:36:39 UTC

marriage is eugenic

2017-05-22 18:36:44 UTC

If anything the west marries down

2017-05-22 18:36:51 UTC

even in the west

2017-05-22 18:37:03 UTC

spouses were primarily based on parental choice and input

2017-05-22 18:37:13 UTC

They dont hold their spouses in a very high standards that beauty suddenly means more than virtue

2017-05-22 18:37:23 UTC

this was the default for most of non-hunter gatherer humanity

2017-05-22 18:37:29 UTC

i know

2017-05-22 18:37:35 UTC

I don't know about that @custer

2017-05-22 18:37:42 UTC

I think that kind of idealization is unrealistic

2017-05-22 18:37:55 UTC

rather they are overall in the context of sanity

2017-05-22 18:38:02 UTC

so there are some expectations that women will be women

2017-05-22 18:38:04 UTC

and men, men

2017-05-22 18:38:34 UTC

Why has divorce risen to the rate it has? Wedlock children. Single motherhood. With the loosening of standards, the family fell apart.

2017-05-22 18:38:47 UTC

In China and Asia, the family is the ultimate bond.

2017-05-22 18:38:53 UTC

how and why did standards loosen though

2017-05-22 18:38:56 UTC

how is that a thing that happens

2017-05-22 18:39:03 UTC

Christianity fell out if favor.

2017-05-22 18:39:13 UTC

The West is based on a Christian value system.

2017-05-22 18:39:23 UTC

Once you lose values you lose standards.

2017-05-22 18:39:41 UTC

yeah I agree with that sort of

2017-05-22 18:39:50 UTC

Even if youre non religious.

2017-05-22 18:39:56 UTC

yeah absolutely

2017-05-22 18:40:12 UTC

Our very country was founded from men who held those values.

2017-05-22 18:40:24 UTC

what country is that? The US?

2017-05-22 18:40:28 UTC


2017-05-22 18:40:35 UTC

Sorry if im americancentric.

2017-05-22 18:40:43 UTC

just checking

2017-05-22 18:40:50 UTC

everyone used to have the religious worldview

2017-05-22 18:40:56 UTC

even initially the enlightenment thinkers

2017-05-22 18:41:20 UTC

My family fortunately had the sense to move here post WW2.

2017-05-22 18:41:24 UTC

the sun on top of the living life of meaning is religion

2017-05-22 18:41:24 UTC

Some of us anyway.

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My dad's parents and my mom's grandparents.

2017-05-22 18:41:50 UTC

pleased to meet you fellow non-white

2017-05-22 18:41:57 UTC


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2017-05-22 18:43:17 UTC

We Irish need not apply water to the burn

2017-05-22 18:43:28 UTC

The sun already did us in

2017-05-22 18:44:04 UTC

I think what pisses me off the most is the germans

2017-05-22 18:44:21 UTC

how come

2017-05-22 18:44:22 UTC

theyre so cucked now

2017-05-22 18:44:26 UTC

yeah I agree

2017-05-22 18:44:34 UTC

the swedes and germans are doing badly

2017-05-22 18:44:46 UTC

the UK is pretty bad too but the people seem different to me

2017-05-22 18:44:48 UTC

they were all for racial purity but i guess bdsm seeped into society and now they love to whip themselves

2017-05-22 18:44:52 UTC

not as much true believers as those two

2017-05-22 18:44:56 UTC

but in some ways very much so

2017-05-22 18:45:22 UTC

racial purity is all well and good, but it's honestly not very important

2017-05-22 18:45:26 UTC

it can become a distraction

2017-05-22 18:45:26 UTC

I hope the E.U shuts down.

2017-05-22 18:45:36 UTC

Kaiser Merkel is a mess.

2017-05-22 18:45:58 UTC

an eventual collapse or transformation of the EU is inevitable

2017-05-22 18:46:04 UTC

it could be a more totalitarian transformation however

2017-05-22 18:46:17 UTC

Then WW4...

2017-05-22 18:46:25 UTC

Macron is sort of setting the ground for it

2017-05-22 18:46:28 UTC

why 4

2017-05-22 18:46:39 UTC

Well, it's gonna be so big we skip 3.

2017-05-22 18:46:51 UTC

I see

2017-05-22 18:46:51 UTC

Just in order of magnitude.

2017-05-22 18:47:19 UTC

Like world war 1 was rhe first bar, then 2 doubled it cus rhe bombs, so like, it'll be waaaay worse than 2... So 4.

2017-05-22 18:47:27 UTC

It makes sense.

2017-05-22 18:47:59 UTC


2017-05-22 18:49:20 UTC

i dont think la penn or whatever her name is wouldve been much better

2017-05-22 18:49:49 UTC

yeah I don't like Le Pen

2017-05-22 18:49:50 UTC

Populism isnt always the key and trump is already flip flopping

2017-05-22 18:49:54 UTC

its more what it would represent

2017-05-22 18:50:03 UTC

no that is a misunderstood situation

2017-05-22 18:50:15 UTC

Trump is beholden in foreign policy to the US deep state

2017-05-22 18:50:26 UTC

I feel like if he built the fucking wall and actually went after EVERY illegal immmigrant, itd be better

2017-05-22 18:50:29 UTC

he cannot really go against the establishment who have their long term plans

2017-05-22 18:50:44 UTC

on the home front things seem to be looking good

2017-05-22 18:50:50 UTC

illegal immigration is down, enforcement is up

2017-05-22 18:50:53 UTC

lots of time for walls

2017-05-22 18:51:26 UTC

well its only down because illegals are avoiding going for food stamps ans welfare as a way to go off the grid

2017-05-22 18:52:02 UTC

apparently some are literally just leaving and less are coming in

2017-05-22 18:52:16 UTC

honestly it doesn't matter how much he gets done

2017-05-22 18:52:22 UTC

its whether this reorientation persists

2017-05-22 18:52:30 UTC

i live in a very liberal place and if i catch the metro early enough you can see lines of illegals at one of those dinky insurance/green card places

2017-05-22 18:52:53 UTC

Trump has upturned the existing logic of politics in the US, the repurcussions are yet to be fully felt

2017-05-22 18:53:05 UTC

the Republicans may be completely destroyed as a party potentially

2017-05-22 18:53:18 UTC

though it looks like Trump is ready to work with them

2017-05-22 18:54:02 UTC

I highly recommend the articles by the Dilbert guy

2017-05-22 18:54:04 UTC

well i got accepted into uni in wa state so hopefully it doesnt get unbearable up there

2017-05-22 18:54:14 UTC

he has a good grasp on how Trump operates

2017-05-22 18:54:31 UTC

WA state is pretty bad

2017-05-22 18:54:45 UTC

West or east side?

2017-05-22 18:55:03 UTC

By seattle i guess

2017-05-22 18:55:07 UTC

Im not from there so idk

2017-05-22 18:55:22 UTC

my other choices were UC schools

2017-05-22 18:55:27 UTC

and hahahahha no fuckin thanks

2017-05-22 18:55:55 UTC

Shitlib paradise

2017-05-22 18:56:02 UTC


2017-05-22 18:56:12 UTC

Seattle area is worse than California

2017-05-22 18:56:19 UTC

Uglier girls, worse weather

2017-05-22 18:56:24 UTC

i'll manage.

2017-05-22 18:56:30 UTC


2017-05-22 18:56:37 UTC

ive already got a spot up there and a job lined up

2017-05-22 18:56:50 UTC

what you gonna be doing up in WA

2017-05-22 18:59:39 UTC

my parents wanted the ministry program but mt political views would probably make it... I dunno

2017-05-22 19:00:11 UTC

so what are you going for in the end?

2017-05-22 19:00:23 UTC

I was thinking lesbian dance theory

2017-05-22 19:00:43 UTC

but im not quite sure yet tbh.

2017-05-22 19:01:42 UTC

its hard to really think about

2017-05-22 19:01:44 UTC

sounds good

2017-05-22 19:01:56 UTC

make it something that counts

2017-05-22 19:02:00 UTC


2017-05-22 19:02:02 UTC

dont faff about

2017-05-22 19:02:07 UTC

people often make that mstake

2017-05-22 19:02:11 UTC

something with a definite career

2017-05-22 19:02:13 UTC

thinking they will make it up later

2017-05-22 19:02:17 UTC

well not necessarily

2017-05-22 19:02:25 UTC

but something with weight to it you know?

2017-05-22 19:02:33 UTC


2017-05-22 19:04:00 UTC

I dont want to be 40 and miserable with a career that goes no where

2017-05-22 19:05:16 UTC

i considered the military for a while honestly

2017-05-22 19:05:33 UTC

but ive had a persistent cough since I was 12 that would probably disqualify me

2017-05-22 19:07:41 UTC

its nothing but i know how they will refer you to doctor after doctor and give you the run around

2017-05-22 19:13:18 UTC

persistent cough?

2017-05-22 19:13:24 UTC

any reason?

2017-05-22 19:13:36 UTC

yeah i broke a rib and it didn't heal right

2017-05-22 19:14:03 UTC

shouldnt be doing anything like that

2017-05-22 19:15:00 UTC

unless you got a lumg injury that never properly healed?

2017-05-22 19:15:08 UTC

the rib itself wouldn't really matter

2017-05-22 19:15:16 UTC

Well it did but the scar tissue couldve messed ir up

2017-05-22 19:15:25 UTC

right, yeah that makes sense

2017-05-22 19:15:27 UTC

scar tissue

2017-05-22 19:15:33 UTC

Im not sure ir doesnt affect when i run or do exercise

2017-05-22 19:15:42 UTC


2017-05-22 19:15:45 UTC

I just wheeze sometimes that makes me cough

2017-05-22 19:15:50 UTC

how did it happen? Road traffic accident?

2017-05-22 19:15:58 UTC

yeah makes sense, wheeze, cough

2017-05-22 19:15:58 UTC

not exactly

2017-05-22 19:16:08 UTC

care to share? I am curious

2017-05-22 19:16:10 UTC

We were mudding and the rope wasnt sevure

2017-05-22 19:16:23 UTC

we collided

2017-05-22 19:16:34 UTC

what;s mudding, jetski in mud with a car a rope and a board?

2017-05-22 19:16:57 UTC

Like an atv and a pool tube but like... Bigger

2017-05-22 19:17:06 UTC


2017-05-22 19:17:29 UTC

normal kid stufd

2017-05-22 19:17:29 UTC

have you tried inhalers

2017-05-22 19:17:35 UTC

for the cough

2017-05-22 19:17:43 UTC

Ive tried breathing treatments yeah

2017-05-22 19:17:58 UTC


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2017-05-22 19:18:09 UTC

But its not an every day cough

2017-05-22 19:18:29 UTC

But i have ir on my medical file

2017-05-22 19:18:34 UTC

yeah I get you, was wondering what had been tried though

2017-05-22 19:18:42 UTC

it makes sense that asthma medication would help

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2017-05-22 19:19:23 UTC

Yeah it relaxes the broncules things in your air sacs that allows them to deconstruct

2017-05-22 19:19:26 UTC


2017-05-22 19:20:13 UTC

I just know that no matter how many documents you have for it they will still ask you to see their specialists

2017-05-22 19:20:19 UTC

And wait lists are months long.

2017-05-22 19:20:24 UTC

yeah its one of those things unfortunately

2017-05-22 19:20:28 UTC

persistent cough

2017-05-22 19:20:44 UTC

the US is so much more litigous in its medical culture as well

2017-05-22 19:20:58 UTC

that these people are essentially forced to go through with unnecessary referrals etc.

2017-05-22 19:23:54 UTC

Yeah. And on top of that you can't have a doctor who knows you by name anymore.

2017-05-22 19:24:26 UTC

how come?

2017-05-22 19:25:06 UTC

my fiance does medical malpractice litigation and has a lot of really interesting insights into this field

2017-05-22 19:25:17 UTC

she's really pessimistic too

2017-05-22 19:26:00 UTC

doctors don't know you by name because general practitioners are dying out and the field is fracturing into nothing but specialist doctors who see endless patients

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2017-05-22 19:27:00 UTC

I've had the same dentist for the last 15 years and she's retiring soon.

2017-05-22 19:27:21 UTC

I'm worried about going to a dentist with commercial advertisements.

2017-05-22 19:27:23 UTC

I see I thought it may have been something legislative so was taken aback

2017-05-22 19:27:36 UTC

yeah this specialist thing extends beyond medicine

2017-05-22 19:27:52 UTC

into science, into many fields, honestly just in general as well even in seemingly unrelated stuff

2017-05-22 19:28:00 UTC

compartmentalization, cocooning

2017-05-22 19:28:09 UTC

in the US, some people can justify it

2017-05-22 19:28:19 UTC

Im glad im figuring this shit out at 19 rather than later in life.

2017-05-22 19:28:35 UTC

like I know of one surgeon who does like 300 laparascopic (cameras + minimal access) kidney removals

2017-05-22 19:28:54 UTC

when you have a workload like that, it's fine if it's pretty much all you do

2017-05-22 19:29:29 UTC

but you have someone sitting in the UK instead, he won't be doing nearly as much

2017-05-22 19:30:12 UTC

but will nevertheless be stuck in that narrow area due to the way the system is

2017-05-22 19:30:31 UTC

yeah I think you're doing pretty good for 19

2017-05-22 19:31:56 UTC

Like ive had full on discussions with my parents and irs so different

2017-05-22 19:34:35 UTC

It's partially and indirectly legislative in the US. pan-agency regulations on the field heavily favor the transition to specialist medicine and gigantic health conglomerates over the traditional "town doctor" kind of model. The same is true with law and many other fields as you point out. The impetus has been there for decades - the results are just becoming really clear

2017-05-22 19:34:55 UTC

what have your discussions been about, Isaac

2017-05-22 19:35:17 UTC

Mostly the future of america and the riots.

2017-05-22 19:35:55 UTC

I knew if I ever burned a flag of any kind my parents would whip me up and down the street.

2017-05-22 19:36:32 UTC

But we also talk about how the majority of the time that the most violent ones are the ones with least to argue with.

2017-05-22 19:38:01 UTC

As well as ways to keep safe.

2017-05-22 19:39:19 UTC

An armed angry dumbass is a scary angry dumbass.

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2017-05-22 19:41:28 UTC

"specialization is for ants" - heinlein

2017-05-22 19:42:20 UTC

thats true

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and ants have 3 genders so everyones happy

2017-05-22 19:44:12 UTC

Thank you guys for keeping me company before i have to lesve for work

2017-05-22 20:23:48 UTC

giving people freedom

2017-05-22 20:24:11 UTC

expectations: they will use it to become monks with artistic gitfs

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reality: they will use it to do beer and drugs

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2017-05-22 20:28:42 UTC

despite Zizek's many flaws

2017-05-22 20:28:53 UTC

he has a good point when he talks about real vs. fake freedom

2017-05-22 20:29:41 UTC

Zizek's priority is being socially acceptable

2017-05-22 20:31:07 UTC

I don't mean to bump Zizek. I'm just saying that "freedom" can mean different things and sometimes the freedom we get isn't really the freedom we want

2017-05-22 20:31:09 UTC

It's 102Β° here. Hope yall stay hydrated

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2017-05-22 20:35:26 UTC

Do you guys think 27 is too old to join the military...

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Should I reconsider my path...

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2017-05-22 20:37:20 UTC

no i don't know

2017-05-22 20:37:57 UTC

They have age cut offs

2017-05-22 20:38:16 UTC

I think 25 is considered old to first apply

2017-05-22 20:38:27 UTC

It depends what branch

2017-05-22 20:39:48 UTC

we wuz cavemen n shiet

2017-05-22 20:40:55 UTC

Army and Navy are 34/35 so I still have time... I wouldn't be enlisting either. I feel guilty about going through life as a civilian. I feel like I'm missing out on something shitty but ultimately irreplaceable.

2017-05-22 20:41:26 UTC

Like in high school when you were stuck at a track meet for twelve hours in the heat getting sunburned and shit but you wanted to be there anyway to hang out with your buddies.

2017-05-22 20:41:26 UTC

I'd rather work on U.S soil.

2017-05-22 20:42:07 UTC

No offense, but I want to pay back what this country has given me. But I know if I could, I would.

2017-05-22 20:42:35 UTC

I guess I would be useful doing other things.

2017-05-22 21:12:43 UTC

"the freedom we get isn't really the freedom we want" the freedom itself is an entirely spiritual, inner condition

2017-05-22 21:13:18 UTC

if one tries to become free through some kind of external machinations, he reaches insurmountable barriers

2017-05-22 21:15:13 UTC

Sure. I would agree with your statement. But there is also, for example, the "school choice" illusion. If you are given the choice to send your children to any of 10 shitty schools, what kind of freedom is that? Is it more "free" than having only one, good school to send your children to?

2017-05-22 21:16:04 UTC

If "freedom" has any purpose, removing the achievability of the purpose makes freedom meaningless.

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