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2017-04-13 19:32:21 UTC

instead of thinking about other people and talking about yourself

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do the opposite

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if you do choose the double down route, don't think you'll just stay as you are now

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you'll get worse

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of course "worse" may be a more successful person, who may even be well liked

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that's the real choice here, true self vs. false self

2017-04-13 19:34:36 UTC

Joe was very successful in business. He bragged that his narcissism allowed him to be tough-minded and make the right decisions even when it might be unpopular with his colleagues. He brought the same tough-minded approach to being a husband and father.

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this is you

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wuzzat from

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Avoid the Four Horsemen – Learn how to stop Criticism, Defensiveness, Contempt, and Stonewalling.

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you've got all 4 in big helpings

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the narcissist is stunted in that he doesn't have a clear emotional sense of the other person

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like a kid

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you can't blame a kid for doing some rude shit or whatever

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they don't understand

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anyone I behave narcissistically towards, I do not want to empathize with

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this is rationalization, that should not be a choice

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I decide first that I don't like them, then I stop viewing them as a person

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I actually feel quite strongly and regularly do things like crying for patients on wards

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sounds about right

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I don't think I've shed a tear for a human being in my life

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and yet I am the crazy narcissist

2017-04-13 19:40:04 UTC

you're not crazy but yes

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that's why I said it

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I'm not a normal person, but I don't have a personality disorder

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so you cannot simply use such stuff as evidence that you are okay or relatively okay

2017-04-13 19:40:41 UTC

it is somewhat heartening, but I can't make out the twists and turns in your mind

2017-04-13 19:40:47 UTC

that led to you crying for a patient on a ward

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my instinct is to say it touched your true self, which is childish and hence vulnerable

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so you teared up

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but I don't know.

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that is about right

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I think if you were fully mature in yourself, you wouldn't cry either

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this child stuff

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it can sound like an insult

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really, it's not

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I hope you understand

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it's just what it is

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you're not actually a child

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for traumatic reasons (likely) your development in a cognitive (I think spiritual) domain has been arrested or curtailed

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it's not your fault, but then it is too

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because you do have a choice

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I need to go do some shopping, be back later

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oh one question

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how did it feel to cry in that situation

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good? bad? confusing? uncontrollable? cathartic?

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the best I can say is it felt right and appropriate

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like something I feel like I should normally do much more often but I refuse to because most humans are such garbage

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so instead when something bad happens to them I force myself to think "good, they deserved it, haha dalits are dead"

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this is interesting

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specifically that russia's IQ is 97

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I have seen many estimates of russian IQ and they are never far below the average for other white countries

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the data is in line with my theory of russians as a morally, culturally and spiritually broken people rather than genetic garbage

"I don't think I've shed a tear for a human being in my life"

Wow really?

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our military folks

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this is fun

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I found out that my wall-facing handstand push ups, which are basically full range, have me using 95% body weight and my decline push ups are using 80% of it

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so doing those for high volume does not really leave much to be desired for pushing strength

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the new handstand push ups are so difficult I can only do like 5

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I think I will train them in a 20x1 fashion next week instead of even trying to do sets

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no, not for someone else

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The best comment was a meme @devolved

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It's often the case

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maybe if some bad shit happened to my close family

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that would be different

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we'll have tranny marines in no time

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strong men also cry

2017-04-13 20:50:06 UTC

wait so... as I understand, bombings are continuing

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so are we just at war now all of the sudden?

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we're bombing isis

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they're not a state

2017-04-13 20:57:25 UTC

I thought IS (american backed rebels) were finished now at that Syria had been liberated. So this attack was against the Syrian state

2017-04-13 20:58:07 UTC

But actually it's a good question: doesn't that equal war?

2017-04-13 20:58:19 UTC

we told the russians who told the syrians

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who moved shit

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the real thought to come out of this is that trum pis a pussy

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why should we care how assad kills them?

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why should we care if they even die?

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these idiots knew the consequences of fucking with him

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I don't suppose he particularly cares either

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and now he has Hezbollah, Iran, and Russia backing him

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It's a strategic/symbolic gesture

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in a religious war

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but what exactly is achieved by it I don't know

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how is Assad killing 87 people with gas

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different from himkilling 800 with starvation?

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We haven't really heard much more about the attack either

2017-04-13 21:01:04 UTC

There's been no war

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he let the civilian population flee aleppo to a more rural, less urban place

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that will b easier for him to tkae

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where he of course will kill them

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not that we should care

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these coalition fighters will end up starved and tortured in syrian pirson

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before having hteir bodies dumped

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why should we even care?

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these people are primitive religious fanatacs

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fighting a war they can't win

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where they knew what the consequences would be

2017-04-13 21:37:29 UTC

where is the religious fanaticism in the above

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their country ended up controlled by an occult religion, which is adhered to by an insular minority of the population

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the Alawites will never drop their rule peacefully, it's against their interests

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they would fear being cleansed (rightfully)

2017-04-13 21:39:00 UTC

it's like if some Jewish Kabbalists or something ended up in control of the US at all levels

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and bombed out Houston once some local uprising occurred against them by a group

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you can have a negative opinion of Islam, Muslims and Arabs and still be realistic, principled, fair, pragmatic

2017-04-13 21:42:03 UTC

> it's like if some Jewish Kabbalists or something ended up in control of the US at all levels
and bombed out Houston once some local uprising occurred against them by a group


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my mind was like "wait that's not how you spell waco"

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The local uprising in Houston is Amerika/DMU

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but that is led by a kabbalist

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✑✑✑ DMU ✑✑✑

2017-04-13 22:02:36 UTC

hey prozak want an article

2017-04-13 22:42:41 UTC

I came here expecting to find interestnig debate unfolding when i left

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but alas

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i was met with more episodes from the series of "nightmares of american multiculturalism"

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I went to the theater tonight

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It was horrible

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On the scene, an imbecile performance

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In audience, a bourgeoisie crowd laughs in order to fit in and overcome their status-signalling anxieties

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In Evolian spirit, I decided to ride the tiger and i begin laughing myself

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Not due to amusement about the deviant performance on stage, but quite sincerely, at the bizareness of entire situation

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I came out hating theater twice as much as I hated it otherwise

2017-04-13 22:46:49 UTC

@fallot I am familiar with guenon

2017-04-13 22:47:13 UTC

Bretts wordlview is shockingly about "us" and "them" in a most provincial sense possible

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And I don't mean solely in terms of the previous dispute

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But then again, the influence of my superior philosophy will eventually clear the waters

2017-04-13 22:49:02 UTC

you're a minnow still

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few years though, sure

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you're not getting heart of prozak

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where certainty crumbles

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I think you severely underestimate my ability to read between lines

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Which is why it concerns me twice as much

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right back at you buddy

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No need

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I read this book

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It's his core work, so to speak

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Along with "The Symbols of Sacred Science"

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I can't be certain, but I would guess about 4-5 years

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apologies for the patronizing

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I'm not catching up

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What do you mean 4-5 years

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In 4-5 years you will be a real power, a journeyman intellect

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but not yet

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prozak probably bothers you for similar reasons to how I bother you

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he doesn't bother me

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layers of fake hiding the truth, each time you think you made progress it's more fake

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I don't see it that way but I do see your point

2017-04-13 22:57:43 UTC

you're not right though

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@Deleted User 57835c2c you can go back in time even now

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and check out a younger version of the man

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I have

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but if you think I overlooked something please point it out

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you'll have to go pre-ANUS essays

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now that I have not read

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I don't even know where to start right now to show you

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Nester is better at this

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I've lost track

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I wrote a thing on how indie music reveals the existential dread dwelling within white millennials

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showing mechanistically how collapse->neurosis->indie

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like what for example, what indie music

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seems like something up his alley

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just so I'm clear

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rilo kiley is an example

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go into The Undiscovered Country

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aw fuck

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well one thing I will go out on a limb and assert about prozak as an individual

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there we go

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he is so into this "esoteric = hidden in plain sight" idea that he applies it to his personality

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he will signal things at you in ways so subtle it becomes difficult to distinguish from delusion of reference

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because outright stating is for plebs

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if you state things in terms of simple dichotomies and principles

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the vehicle of the reader's reason supplies the inbetween

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they, bottom up, develop your philosophy (in a sense)

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this can be good or bad, depending on intent and spirit

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aphorisms are powerful carriers of truth

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Everything in an individual is transient, as I have repedeately told

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Since everything he assumes is almost as a rule an apprearance

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@Deleted User 57835c2c remember, he is a writer

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this conceit can be used to define him

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if you wish to

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That, and the persistent and stubborn influx of the subconscious in what an individual self-perceives as entirely rational and detached

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I have no morals, but I have my own code of ethics I developed at about age 12.

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ye olde prozak

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i agree

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me too

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donuts all around

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First mistake, last mistake

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hey prozak did you see I have an article for you if you want?

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I was just quoting Mustaine

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Does anybody else have a problem with writting things and then scrapping them

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How do you mean

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you have an overly perfectionist streak

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also I do not eat donuts

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Just Do It.

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can you make like a lentil or something for me?

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But yes I empathize

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oh boy lots of bad postmodern poetry here

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I am a perfectionist, but that does not necessarily lead to perfect results mind you

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no offense pzak

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@Deleted User 57835c2c NO, I DID NOT; CAN YOU MAIL IT TO ME?

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can I PM it?

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Brett's anti-Irishness is a form of subversive online trolling effort

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@The Enlightened Shepherd SEND THE IRISH BACK TO AFRICA

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Burn Nairobi

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BTW, Grant was performing a leap of faith when he concluded how British Isles prior to Saxon invasions were entirely of Mediteranean origin

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i dont think that's correct at all

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oh one more element I forgot @Deleted User 57835c2c

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