the way normal stupid people overcomplicate things and make them more expensive never ceases to amaze me

I also found out that tomato + coconut tastes like summer

it tastes appropriate to eat in a barbecue setting

I cook stew in a cauldron. Most don't do this

a cauldron would be good

I like cast iron

my only complaint against cast iron is it takes so long to heat up

it seems like a waste to cook just a small meal with it

I am starting to experiment with using different vegetables to add texture

I think I am going to play with chickpeas

I already improved my cooking by starting to use 1/3 butter 2/3 coconut fat, driving down cost also

I noticed some time ago that moar fat sources = moar gooder

http://mouseutopia.blogspot.co.uk/

what cooking

eat fresh dates and drink thin mint tea

GROW OKRA

FOOD IS IMPROVED

1. America isn't leading the Western civilization. America is leading the West

2. The potential that American people posses, which is vast, isn't a Civilization building potential, since civilization demands certain crucial pre-conditions, above all which stands out a previous tradition

3. When all things reach their inevitable conclusion, America (in her orthodox understanding) stands in opposition to civilization, and hence cannot in the craziest imagination be a point of it's ressurection

4. Perhaps, rebuilding a civilization isn't such a crucial goal, as destroying progressivism is, and not from a utilitarian point of view, but from purely historical

You know how some people "people-watch" @Deleted User 57835c2c? OKC is good for the same ends.

Also does anyone in here incorporate jumprope into his exercise routine?

I imagine you "people-watching" and becoming gradually more incensed at the sight of burg Americans until you storm home to prepare a pot of lentils.

Or however lentils are prepared.

what was definition of people-watching again

that is basically what happens to me, yes

except I cannot avoid people watching, it is my job

it just happens whether I am in the mood for it or not

I played with jump rope but found it more complex and less useful than calisthenics circuits

Im interested in the alt right

But I literally can't find a deformation of it anywhere that isn't overly biased

Definition*

the alt right is simple

take a bunch of american capitalist christian quadroons

then let them screech about racist ideas in terms exclusive enough to keep out more obvious POCs, but loose enough to allow them and their asian girlfriends and their one cool black friend

then let them post frog memes and paleo burger recipes on chan sites

Alt right sounds lame 😒

that's pretty much what you need to know

And racist

you could also roughly describe it as "light brown nationalism" and not be wrong

the alt right's prime allegiance is to christianity and capitalism, IOW an extension of implicit american culture

which is why they are into "based putin"

as his propaganda news outlet RT.com makes it sound as if he is a bold christian nationalist

So this Discord I assume isn't for the alt right?

I am not sure. I am not alt right

ahhh I wanted to troll them

I suggest 4chan /pol/ or r/the_donald

those are guaranteed good spots

pretty much the belly of the beast

Just saying something akin to "the altright sucks" won't cut it tho lol

@BigDaddyCool the goal of the alt right - remove the underman

@BigDaddyCool there is no consistent definition of alt right

alt right covers a numbers of things

the overriding one is anti-leftism

the big umbrella a bunch of different things come under

ALT RIGHT = RESTORE WESTERN CIVILIZATION

EVERYTHING ELSE IS BULLSHIT

anti-leftism + Human Biodiversity stuff + anti-feminism (MRA - PUA axis) + White nationalism (White people are good to - Kill all nonwhites axis)

PLUS LIBERTARIAN/NEOREACTION ORIGINS

AND BLACK METAL

it's basically just a revolt against unreality

AND HOUELLEBECQ

HISTORICALLY

but the people involved dont realize it

AND ESOTERIC DALITRY

DEMOCRACY

LENTILS 1488

Conservatism is listening to a leftist say men are women and women are men, nodding sagely and saying "you've got a point, but"

alt right is bullying and trolling that same leftist

That part needs to evolve.

I SUGGEST WE CONTINUE NOT TAKING LEFTISM SERIOUSLY

IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER AND NOTHING MORE

the danger I see is attacking what ends up being a mirage of leftism

while holding onto leftist assumptions

and a generation or two later

ending up in the same place

so a blip basically, in a slide down to nothingness

via degeneracy

im more of a dissolutionist than restorationist

Ironically, the trolling attitude makes leftists better disposed towards you

whereas doing the cowering cuckservative act

only makes them accelerate their attacks

consider McCain

every now and then he'll say something "principled" against his own party

and is thrown a doggie biscuit

but in between those events, if you ask your average leftist what he thinks of John McCain

KKKonservative Kunt

people incapable of basic self defense (80% of europeans) don't deserve to keep going

The definition of "alt-right" I came up with is exclusionary, but I don't know how helpful it is.
Anyone who's not a neocon, a raw-milk libertarian type, or an evangelical. Moderates too obviously.

But that makes the Nation of Islam alt-right. Which is... correct?

if strong, capable and intelligent dont figure out they are supposed to lead and take charge and remove their enemies

every social theory including alt right will fail

if you have no foot soldiers, the only thing you can hope is that for a better climate

@Mosely key is alt-right is not a positive ideology

better climate = post modern civilization

there are no "alt-right" ideas

Only people who know there's something wrong.

we are currently in the alt right synthesis

anti-egalitarianism

this stuff started on obscure blogs

and their comment sections

trickle down, top down

NRx was actually much more on the money

But was ruined by people of bad reputation, self-control, anime fanboys, and drunk twitter posting after 12:00

first, on a bunch of scattered blogs, a bunch of people started to notice things, put things together, started to wrongthink

what alt right really is

NRx was a good story initially had great quality and well spoken people

is mass media cannibalizing itself due to its chaotic nature

on the one hand it's a directed weapon in a sense, on the other hand it's quite nebulous so it gives others the opportunity to use it as a directed weapon

the alt right is the internet

guys

you are naive

this, and anti-leftism, are the only two irreducible aspects

mass media isnt self destructing or cannibalizing

mass media is *organized*

you don't know.

no, you're naive my friend

they are not a loos network of shitposters

media is *organized* and has *agenda*

it's both

two things alt right DOESNT have

if you have agenda AND organization, you have a goal which is achievable

as gym motivation posters say, a goal without a plan is just a wish, and mass media is doing fine

their target audience are retards, and retards are a growing population

mass media organizations are not the mass media

this is a bigger phenomenon than that

yes, there are absolute agendas

and large scale power structures

the alt right is emerging as one of those

lentils1488

but ultimately, the environment is a chaotic one

you can see it even in the alt right's own development

it's bottom up

alt right is just shock value against people who need trigger warnings

bottom up, attacks "itself" etc.

same for leftism

people did not vote for donald because they thought he would be good, they voted for donald to spook the shit out of liberals, who they have grown to resent

my buddy says altright is the modern day equivalent of getting a tattoo to piss off your parents

alt right began in a top down fashion, but could only emerge in a bottom up way

@Deleted User 57835c2c , what you said doesn't have any contradiction in it

people did not vote for donald because they thought he would be good, they voted for donald to spook the shit out of liberals, who they have grown to resent

well that is important

spooking the shit out of liberals, which they resent, would be good wouldn't it

just going by your own premise

the few people running the actual thinktank places in altright, run by people like prozak and moldbug, are essentially one entity while the people who actually voted donald in are another

I do not think of them as the same at all

I agree

what remains to be seen, in my mind, is how much control the altright intelligentsia have over the donald fans

barely any

then that is bad news

nope

how is it not bad news that pepe memers and 4chandalas are running on their own instincts and not being led by smart people

I thought the whole premise of altright was "fuck democracy, smart supremacy"

well?

you went off the rails, that isn't a question worth answering

yes it is nigger

but I can answer something more reasonable

that is a very serious and important question

I am not off the rails, the altright is, literally

it's usual for you to go off the rails, so I don't mind

but I understand where you were headed

and the answer is, they started from 0

this is not even about me, it is about the fact that the altright's whole thing is hierarchy and rule of intelligent elites yet it is a bunch of teenage memelords doing whatever the hell they want while the intelligentsia cannot stop it at all

and now they are 1

even if the scale is 0 - 1000

1 > 0

elaborate

does that make sense?

before the alt right, there was literally nothing

leftists were putting out shit like "The end of history

"

so tl,dr; "they are headed in the right direction even if they suck," ok

I can even respect that

no, wrong

no, that isn't what I'm saying

well what do your numerical values mean

they may or may not be headed in the right direction

but limit the argument to their effectiveness

ability to change things

yes, your average Donald voter is not an alt right dude

are you saying they are good because at least there is now a non-leftist school of thought that is mainstream?

regardless of the problems within that school of thought?

but the alt right brought a lot of stuff to the fore that these Donald voters could look at and assess on their own terms

and it exerted a pressure on the old school conservative media

no I'm not saying that but that's pretty good too

that's all well and good

non-leftist mainstream school of thought: Christianity

Mormonism

but how does that address the fact that the alt right is doing the opposite of its stated goals, and is a flash mob preaching the virtues of hierarchy

it doesn't have any stated goals

it isn't a "thing", it's an anti-thing

even the hierarchy stuff, not everyone will agree with it

prozak has written tomes of paper on how anti-things are awful

one edge of the alt-right is literal sperg libertarians who are awaiting the singularity

Nick Land kind of people

they are not insignificant

yes, so most accurately the altright is not even altright, it is just antileft

whereas republicans are left lite

anti-things are not awful, or not-awful

there is no such thing in the prozakian philosophy per se

it's either effective or ineffective, leading to desired goals or not

that's right @Deleted User 57835c2c , that's absolutely right

alt right is anti left

republicans are left lite

what anti-ideologies are is unsustainable

because their impetus is the reaction

that is still very far removed from my goal both quantitatively and qualitatively

so neoreaction really was the more accurate term

yes, definitely

well, actually no

it's because the term reaction carries some load

I meant it in a very general way, reactionary to anything

reactionary also carries the specific meaning of "anti left" or "anti modern"

it's a pejorative applied by the leftist side

that was taken up as a positive identifier

but neoreaction is certainly a sensible term

looking at what this all really is, it seems much more accurate

and much more explains why the altright mob is such a shitshow grab bag of opinions

it is just an IRL 4chan image board of people all mad at SJWs

any random thing gets upvoted as long as the content triggers SJW or calls them evil

it's a big umbrella

it's not just a channer shitshow

Steve Sailer is probably the most vanilla non-meme alt right

I wonder if there is a way to quantify the altright

quantify in what sense

qualify is possible, quantify not as it's anti-X, the best you can do is degree of anti-leftism which itself is incoherent, because what frame are you using for the degree

is leftism ultimately godlessness, and full anti-leftism becoming religious?

if leftism ultimately masculine weakness, and full anti-leftism a cult of masculinity, strength, honor (full gay nazi)

or a bunch of other things

what I want is a nazi brahmin eco fascist satanocracy

what do you mean by satanocracy

Nazi, brahmin, eco fascist, this is fully the gay nazi crew

that's how normal people would see it

so you're looking for counter currents

I don't want to counter anything

I want to be a healthy aryan in the forest living around only other healthy aryans in the forest

let me give you a taste of counter currents

http://www.countercurrents.org/2017/01/09/cashless-is-not-casteless/

oops

wrong one lol

fucking google

https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/09/the-origins-of-indo-european-religion-2/

probably the best thing I ever read there, and the only reason I wouldn't flush this down the toilet entirely

https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/04/the-specter-of-white-nationalism/

that one may be better for skimming to get an idea

goddamn I forgot how annoying Greg Johnson's prose was

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what, neither of the links?