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2017-04-22 23:02:57 UTC

btw, distinguish early janissaries, basically kidnapped non-muslim boys, and the later order

2017-04-22 23:03:11 UTC

Early jannisserirs is not kidnapping

2017-04-22 23:03:20 UTC

All must serve the ingroup, the nation, the whatever

2017-04-22 23:03:26 UTC

More forced conscription

2017-04-22 23:03:34 UTC

And technically a slave of the sultan

2017-04-22 23:03:36 UTC

no, they were kidnapped from non-muslim families

2017-04-22 23:03:36 UTC

what is called capitalism nowadays is mostly just usury out of control

2017-04-22 23:03:40 UTC

As you went back.

2017-04-22 23:03:40 UTC

creating value out of nothing

2017-04-22 23:03:47 UTC

And were wealthier for it.

2017-04-22 23:03:59 UTC

yeah, they often did go back

2017-04-22 23:04:06 UTC

The problem was the jannisseries sucked as a fighting force.

2017-04-22 23:04:22 UTC

eventually they did

2017-04-22 23:04:23 UTC

They were better as local administratators

2017-04-22 23:04:41 UTC

However, my initial point is, Islam is nothing but a problem today, and is an umbrella worldview for those who want to conquer this material world and subject it to their whims and evade all punishmet

2017-04-22 23:04:44 UTC

As they didn't perform well as ncos or crack troops.

2017-04-22 23:05:03 UTC

Well they were okay for a bit as heavy infantry

2017-04-22 23:05:16 UTC

Until the line infantry showed up in the 1600s

2017-04-22 23:05:18 UTC

we haven't even reached the point of peak Muslim influence, which will begin when White undermen start converting to it to find a "solution"

2017-04-22 23:05:19 UTC

When they were fucked.

2017-04-22 23:05:20 UTC

this "problem" will survive where flighty gay mystical nazi ideas fail

2017-04-22 23:05:24 UTC

Just like during Roman Empire

2017-04-22 23:05:54 UTC

Roman religion is one of imperial cults and personal gods.

2017-04-22 23:05:55 UTC

whatever the circumstances, there is a basic health to it that will preserve it

2017-04-22 23:06:00 UTC

And if the world doesnt learn from others, like Japanese, who swiftly and decisivelly surpressed this subversion, we are doomed to repeat same mistake

2017-04-22 23:06:09 UTC

the Japanese themselves are doomed though.

2017-04-22 23:06:11 UTC

And the last one of both just happened to be Jesus.

2017-04-22 23:06:39 UTC

by "this subversion" i mean how Japanese surpressed Christianity and Christian missionaries who started gradually dividing the nation in two portions

2017-04-22 23:06:43 UTC

@Hagel have you now become a committed fascist

2017-04-22 23:06:50 UTC

I guess it's the only direction

2017-04-22 23:06:53 UTC

if you are not religious

2017-04-22 23:06:59 UTC

Japanese never believed in Christianity....

2017-04-22 23:07:20 UTC

that's propaganda, the Christians in Japan were never a credible threat

2017-04-22 23:07:27 UTC

"whatever the circumstances, there is a basic health to it that will preserve it" this is a basic mistake that people make when they judge ideas

2017-04-22 23:07:28 UTC

Christ was just a powerful Kami

2017-04-22 23:07:37 UTC

it's not a judgment of the idea

2017-04-22 23:07:41 UTC

And nobody cared until the rebellion.

2017-04-22 23:07:42 UTC

it's a judgement of the phenomenon

2017-04-22 23:07:48 UTC

which means idea plus manifestation

2017-04-22 23:07:58 UTC

Islams "health" is only in the fact that it is a part of a "growing" movement

2017-04-22 23:08:07 UTC

But that's the same as concluding how tumor cellsa are healthy

2017-04-22 23:08:15 UTC

But like Japanese peasants rebelled incredibly violently over lesser shit too.

2017-04-22 23:08:26 UTC

This growing movement, is internationalized beige subhumanity

2017-04-22 23:08:26 UTC

As the local samurai usually just join them.

2017-04-22 23:08:39 UTC

honestly I don't think many westerners even understand what religion means to the life of people outside the west (particularly muslims)

2017-04-22 23:08:48 UTC

they have no insight into it

2017-04-22 23:08:50 UTC

which has no other goals, sine they cannot act consciouslly and soberly, other than to devour and destroy everything

2017-04-22 23:08:57 UTC

whatever happens later is only ex post facto

2017-04-22 23:09:12 UTC

maybe from your perspective it looks like devouring and destroying

2017-04-22 23:09:15 UTC

Oh they do. Most Muslims are basically uneducated and in the middle ages.

2017-04-22 23:09:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/305480223955091456/oldpiel.png

2017-04-22 23:09:23 UTC

The enlihjtenment never happened.

2017-04-22 23:09:25 UTC

if the world reverted to the middle ages

2017-04-22 23:09:31 UTC

we'd be better off anyway

2017-04-22 23:09:42 UTC

what's with the man ass

2017-04-22 23:09:58 UTC

The reappropriation of classical knowledge never happened in Islam.

2017-04-22 23:10:08 UTC

"honestly I don't think many westerners even understand what religion means to the life of people outside the west (particularly muslims)" again, i think it's the other way round, *subhumanity's sense of spiritual is entirely superficial*

2017-04-22 23:10:16 UTC

wrong

2017-04-22 23:10:19 UTC

I mean, just wrong

2017-04-22 23:10:19 UTC

And Islam never had the cultural revolutions that happened in China and Japan.

2017-04-22 23:10:28 UTC

there is nothing to argue here, your worldview is just false

2017-04-22 23:10:28 UTC

and i dont equate here subhumanity with islam mind you

2017-04-22 23:10:33 UTC

I understand

2017-04-22 23:10:39 UTC

I'm just noting that subhumanity will naturally gravitate towards it

2017-04-22 23:11:02 UTC

subhumanity and islam are synonymous

2017-04-22 23:11:11 UTC

perhaps the poverty of where you currently are will become apparent to you over the course of a few years

2017-04-22 23:11:16 UTC

@Hagel have you now become a committed fascist

2017-04-22 23:11:25 UTC

Economics are secondary. They are not the goal itself

2017-04-22 23:11:36 UTC

'Fascist economics seem like the best method for achieving victory, that is all

2017-04-22 23:11:37 UTC

yeah, absolutely

2017-04-22 23:11:38 UTC

To average joe, his 'spirituality" is merely his symbolical confirmation of his spiritual personal disposition, actually thats with all people

2017-04-22 23:11:48 UTC

It is actually a scientific matter, not a philosophical one

2017-04-22 23:11:49 UTC

What kind of victory are you referring to

2017-04-22 23:11:53 UTC

Which ever method will lead to the result I want, I support

2017-04-22 23:11:57 UTC

same here

2017-04-22 23:11:59 UTC

Niboretty much uneducated people believe this shit is real.

2017-04-22 23:12:01 UTC

hence average joe *cannot have a higher sense of spirituality no matter which exoteric religious worldview he accepts*

2017-04-22 23:12:02 UTC

that's my economics

2017-04-22 23:12:09 UTC

That there is actually a spiritual world.

2017-04-22 23:12:13 UTC

Beyond this one

2017-04-22 23:12:22 UTC

That's more important as it's immaterial

2017-04-22 23:12:38 UTC

at this point, average underman will simply gravitate towards Islam because in it's current form, it most aproximately corresponds to his spiritual disposition

2017-04-22 23:12:48 UTC

your understanding of this is entirely sterile

2017-04-22 23:12:50 UTC

Except they don't

2017-04-22 23:12:57 UTC

The same thing was with Christianity in Early middle ages

2017-04-22 23:12:58 UTC

divorced from the reality of spiritual experience for normies

2017-04-22 23:13:03 UTC

What is the current form of Islam?

2017-04-22 23:13:10 UTC

International Wahabbism

2017-04-22 23:13:14 UTC

Why is there a violent war fighting over it right now?

2017-04-22 23:13:15 UTC

where all people dress the same

2017-04-22 23:13:18 UTC

there isn't

2017-04-22 23:13:22 UTC

yes it is

2017-04-22 23:13:25 UTC

where

2017-04-22 23:13:32 UTC

So why are 70% of Saudis not true Wahhabists?

2017-04-22 23:13:42 UTC

Syria, Iraq

2017-04-22 23:13:44 UTC

all Muslims started wearing burkas pretty much everywhere even though not even in Arabia itself it was the norm prior to 20th century

2017-04-22 23:13:59 UTC

there is 1) A migrant crisis in Europe (plus a demographic crisis)

2017-04-22 23:14:01 UTC

only in secular places that dress code has not been accepted

2017-04-22 23:14:08 UTC

There is a cuck crisis

2017-04-22 23:14:17 UTC

and 2) Strife in a couple of middle eastern countries where various power plays etc. on an unstable situation are occuring

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