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2017-11-04 18:15:40 UTC

How have you not just BEGGED THE QUESTION

2017-11-04 18:16:01 UTC

I can simply say, that the ultimate reality is allowed with the existence of a big spaghetti penis.

2017-11-04 18:16:29 UTC

> Elaborate diction

2017-11-04 18:16:35 UTC

> Same arguments

2017-11-04 18:16:41 UTC

i think im going to be sick

2017-11-04 18:18:19 UTC

@buster ROOOOOAAAAAAASTED

2017-11-04 18:20:39 UTC

Squishy? Did you watch some of it yet ?

2017-11-04 18:20:53 UTC

The reason it can't do these things is because I define the nature of reality so

2017-11-04 18:21:04 UTC

hey

2017-11-04 18:21:07 UTC

who the FUCK

2017-11-04 18:21:11 UTC

said we don't tolerate anime here?

2017-11-04 18:21:19 UTC

Careful... @SmugAnimeGirl

2017-11-04 18:21:20 UTC

Weebs got Trump elected

2017-11-04 18:21:25 UTC

the revelation of @Snoo and @red

2017-11-04 18:21:40 UTC

See how Trump does in 2020 if you alienate his weeb base

2017-11-04 18:21:46 UTC

i have to eat dinner xd

2017-11-04 18:22:04 UTC

the revelation of @Snoo and @red and @Alex the er... owl guy.

2017-11-04 18:22:04 UTC

I would like to see Trump do his hair up like Goku

2017-11-04 18:22:24 UTC

word spaghetti

2017-11-04 18:22:38 UTC

I would like for Trump's hair to be erratic.

2017-11-04 18:22:49 UTC

But I do like it in it's trivial form.

2017-11-04 18:22:50 UTC

Every day it's something new?

2017-11-04 18:22:50 UTC

the personal authoritative revelation of @Snoo and @red and @Alex the er... owl guy.

2017-11-04 18:22:57 UTC
2017-11-04 18:23:04 UTC

I'd be happy with that

2017-11-04 18:23:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356277817253560320/376436210714804226/1508712887171.jpg

2017-11-04 18:23:09 UTC

dont overtalk

2017-11-04 18:23:13 UTC

๐Ÿ˜„

2017-11-04 18:23:18 UTC

thats funny

2017-11-04 18:23:23 UTC

imma use this

2017-11-04 18:23:26 UTC

DONT OVERTALK ME

2017-11-04 18:24:39 UTC

@red IF U BELIEVE IN THE FUCKING UNIFORMITY OF NATURE

2017-11-04 18:24:51 UTC

@red THEN U BELIEVE IN SOMETHING WITHOUT PROOF

2017-11-04 18:24:59 UTC

SO UR OWN CLAIM

2017-11-04 18:25:02 UTC

IS WITHOUT PROOF

2017-11-04 18:25:11 UTC

OR U JUST LIVE ON A CHEESE CAKE

2017-11-04 18:25:40 UTC

@TYLER You have to assume the uniformity of nature before you can believe in God.

2017-11-04 18:25:55 UTC

the personal authoritative revelation of @Snoo and @red and @Alex the er... owl guy.

2017-11-04 18:25:59 UTC
2017-11-04 18:26:10 UTC

ur proof is cuz god said

2017-11-04 18:26:14 UTC

revelation

2017-11-04 18:26:19 UTC

not cuz u said so

2017-11-04 18:26:30 UTC

@TYLER Please tell me how one can come to believe in God without first assuming the uniformity of nature.

2017-11-04 18:26:30 UTC

but its jerking off to theory

2017-11-04 18:26:46 UTC

@TYLER Please tell me how you could convince a blubbering retard with no sense of reason why God exists.

2017-11-04 18:26:57 UTC

wat

2017-11-04 18:26:59 UTC

u cant

2017-11-04 18:27:05 UTC

@TYLER Exactly.

2017-11-04 18:27:10 UTC

@TYLER You don't realize that this is just word spaghetti?

2017-11-04 18:27:11 UTC

so what

2017-11-04 18:27:42 UTC

god is absolute and just , i can rely on a universal eternal standard of justice

2017-11-04 18:27:55 UTC

One is claiming they know. The other isn't. Yes, both of those ideas are based off reality, but that doesn't make them synonymous.

2017-11-04 18:27:56 UTC

@TYLER So you're using the uniformity of nature to justify God, putting you on the same level as the rest of us.

2017-11-04 18:28:01 UTC

It's illogical word spaghetti

2017-11-04 18:28:02 UTC

Jesus christ

2017-11-04 18:28:05 UTC

they claim they know he is not real

2017-11-04 18:28:07 UTC

so you are wrong

2017-11-04 18:28:19 UTC

@SmugAnimeGirl im using revelation to the principles

2017-11-04 18:28:23 UTC

of uniformity

2017-11-04 18:28:27 UTC

you are not going to say you have no positive statements

2017-11-04 18:28:28 UTC

YOU DO

2017-11-04 18:28:29 UTC

causality

2017-11-04 18:28:32 UTC

even design

2017-11-04 18:28:33 UTC

Nope

2017-11-04 18:28:33 UTC

and if you say you dont you are a liar

2017-11-04 18:28:35 UTC

i would say

2017-11-04 18:28:39 UTC

so you are a liar

2017-11-04 18:28:44 UTC

"I don't know" is different from "I know"

2017-11-04 18:28:45 UTC

@TYLER How can one read revelation without the uniformity of nature? How can one read or understand anything without operating under the assumption of uniformity?

2017-11-04 18:28:46 UTC

Sorry?

2017-11-04 18:28:48 UTC

You say God does not exist

2017-11-04 18:28:51 UTC

WRONGH

2017-11-04 18:28:53 UTC

I say

2017-11-04 18:28:53 UTC

that is Atheism

2017-11-04 18:28:55 UTC

I

2017-11-04 18:28:56 UTC

Dont

2017-11-04 18:28:56 UTC

Know

2017-11-04 18:28:59 UTC
2017-11-04 18:29:02 UTC

and?

2017-11-04 18:29:04 UTC

@TYLER Without the uniformity of nature, you couldn't comprehend the bible.

2017-11-04 18:29:05 UTC

you dont konw

2017-11-04 18:29:06 UTC

And?

2017-11-04 18:29:11 UTC
2017-11-04 18:29:11 UTC

And thats the difference

2017-11-04 18:29:12 UTC

then you have no merit inthe conversation

2017-11-04 18:29:13 UTC

I say I dont know

2017-11-04 18:29:14 UTC

You say you know

2017-11-04 18:29:16 UTC

Thats the difference

2017-11-04 18:29:17 UTC

youare just a centrist cuck

2017-11-04 18:29:18 UTC

Yes

2017-11-04 18:29:31 UTC

@TYLER So God is built upon an assumption, just like the beliefs of any athiest or agnostic.

2017-11-04 18:29:48 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356277817253560320/376437897299230720/latest.png

2017-11-04 18:29:50 UTC
2017-11-04 18:30:03 UTC

@SmugAnimeGirl not really. the bible is real and a revelation of years of in person accounts

2017-11-04 18:30:10 UTC

osama bin laden's favourite naruto game

2017-11-04 18:30:11 UTC

you just choose to disbelieve

2017-11-04 18:30:16 UTC

@Zephial Not really.

2017-11-04 18:30:18 UTC

you just choose to believe

2017-11-04 18:30:19 UTC

yes really

2017-11-04 18:30:20 UTC

@Zephial How can you read the bible without first assuming the uniformity of nature?

2017-11-04 18:30:23 UTC

lol

2017-11-04 18:30:26 UTC

@Zephial I consider it early Philosophy.

2017-11-04 18:30:30 UTC

@SmugAnimeGirl god is truth, theres no assumption in truth

2017-11-04 18:30:32 UTC

@Zephial How can you read the bible without first trusting your senses.

2017-11-04 18:30:34 UTC

he created the uniformity of nature so yes

2017-11-04 18:30:39 UTC

@TYLER There is assumption in Truth.

2017-11-04 18:30:42 UTC

when u know a law and a principle ,theres no reason for assumption

2017-11-04 18:30:53 UTC

what assumption is there

2017-11-04 18:30:59 UTC

doesnt seem lik you understand anime girld

2017-11-04 18:31:02 UTC

Did god create ununiformally the uniformity?

2017-11-04 18:31:05 UTC

hahah

2017-11-04 18:31:10 UTC

?

2017-11-04 18:31:17 UTC

You said he created it

2017-11-04 18:31:19 UTC

He just created everythign

2017-11-04 18:31:32 UTC

So was god ununiform when it created uniformity?

2017-11-04 18:31:46 UTC

he is above everything you inbred

2017-11-04 18:31:48 UTC

@TYLER Yes, but the laws and principles you claim to rely on are themselves reliant on other assumptions.

2017-11-04 18:31:49 UTC

lmao

2017-11-04 18:31:57 UTC

Uniformity does not even have to be attributed to a deity.

2017-11-04 18:32:11 UTC

That is just a human generalization.

2017-11-04 18:32:12 UTC

then do you know what it can be attributed to?

2017-11-04 18:32:23 UTC

It can be attributed to anything justified.

2017-11-04 18:32:28 UTC

what would that be?

2017-11-04 18:32:37 UTC

Hence, A huge spaghetti penis.

2017-11-04 18:32:38 UTC

These people can't comprehend the difference between claiming "I know" and "I don't know". And Darth is using word spaghetti to basically just keep repeating, over and over again, "Your belief is just as ficticious. Because both are based off reality. And you can't measure anything. Because a measuring of something is based of nature. So the measure might not be 'true'"

2017-11-04 18:32:42 UTC

It's absurd

2017-11-04 18:32:58 UTC

legless we get it you dont understand basic concepts

2017-11-04 18:32:59 UTC

its k

2017-11-04 18:33:02 UTC

@red Already seen.

2017-11-04 18:33:04 UTC

/ face palm

2017-11-04 18:33:08 UTC
2017-11-04 18:33:10 UTC

@Zephial I would think the contrary.

2017-11-04 18:33:18 UTC

Sorry.

2017-11-04 18:33:25 UTC

@TYLER Like the uniformity of nature, or some basic trust in your senses.

2017-11-04 18:33:26 UTC

idk what you are talkingabout wheelz

2017-11-04 18:33:28 UTC

sorry

2017-11-04 18:33:37 UTC

@Zephial You know exactly what I am insinuating.

2017-11-04 18:33:44 UTC

i honestly dont

2017-11-04 18:33:49 UTC

@SmugAnimeGirl what assumptions

2017-11-04 18:33:50 UTC

Zeph was god ununiform before it created uniformity?

2017-11-04 18:33:52 UTC

@Zephial Then my point is proven.

2017-11-04 18:33:54 UTC

: )

2017-11-04 18:33:57 UTC

?

2017-11-04 18:33:58 UTC

cool

2017-11-04 18:34:10 UTC

@TYLER An assumption that nature is uniform. The notion that if x implies y, and you have x, y follows.

2017-11-04 18:34:12 UTC

Was god nonlogical before it created logic?

2017-11-04 18:34:16 UTC

you won an arguement i didnt know was going on i guess

2017-11-04 18:34:21 UTC

@TYLER everything hinges on this assumption

2017-11-04 18:34:34 UTC

@SmugAnimeGirl theres no assumption in final authority of those principles

2017-11-04 18:34:47 UTC

initial point of creation

2017-11-04 18:34:57 UTC

@TYLER To even begin to comprehend the existence of a final authority, you must already be familiar with those principles.

2017-11-04 18:34:57 UTC

initial conditions

2017-11-04 18:35:21 UTC

Presumably god created the ability to create, but if he could already create, then he couldn't create the ability to create again... god is a contradiction and can't exist

2017-11-04 18:35:34 UTC

If it is charged with creating everything

2017-11-04 18:35:42 UTC

including the ability to create

2017-11-04 18:35:57 UTC

You believe in the science lie that we originated as cells or something and that the world is extremely old

2017-11-04 18:36:04 UTC

you come from a completely false reality

2017-11-04 18:36:10 UTC

that is maybe why you cant understand

2017-11-04 18:36:10 UTC

That's a deflection

2017-11-04 18:36:18 UTC

christ is lord

2017-11-04 18:36:24 UTC

You can't address the paradox

2017-11-04 18:36:33 UTC

"Nothing matters and you can believe anything because our reality is a derivative of nature."

".....but that's irrelevant. The point is one person is claiming they know the origin of the universe and the other isn't."

"You aren't comprehending what I'm saying."

2017-11-04 18:36:35 UTC

Herp derp

2017-11-04 18:36:37 UTC

im not paying attention to your garbage arguments

2017-11-04 18:36:40 UTC

I can post it again if you like Zeph

2017-11-04 18:36:42 UTC

you arent worth anyones time

2017-11-04 18:36:45 UTC

you are a fucking shill

2017-11-04 18:36:48 UTC

EURO FAG

2017-11-04 18:37:12 UTC

If god created everything, this includes the ability to create, but if he could already create, then he couldn't create the ability to create again... god is a contradiction and can't exist

2017-11-04 18:37:13 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356277817253560320/376439764938653696/bingo.png

2017-11-04 18:37:34 UTC

>christian world view

2017-11-04 18:37:34 UTC

axiomatic

2017-11-04 18:37:38 UTC

how can he not create the ability for us to create?

2017-11-04 18:37:44 UTC

are you retarded?

2017-11-04 18:37:48 UTC

design

2017-11-04 18:37:51 UTC

to design

2017-11-04 18:38:05 UTC

how did he create if he hadn't created the ability to create?

2017-11-04 18:38:12 UTC

That's the issue

2017-11-04 18:38:12 UTC

design

2017-11-04 18:38:14 UTC

not create

2017-11-04 18:38:17 UTC

design

2017-11-04 18:38:19 UTC

but he can work

2017-11-04 18:38:25 UTC

with spirit, we cant

2017-11-04 18:38:29 UTC

we are sinful

2017-11-04 18:38:33 UTC

Design might have different implications

2017-11-04 18:38:37 UTC

design

2017-11-04 18:38:43 UTC

in his own image

2017-11-04 18:38:45 UTC

design

2017-11-04 18:39:14 UTC

But this is to say that things exist without being the result of the intentions of god

2017-11-04 18:39:15 UTC

u can design

2017-11-04 18:39:31 UTC

which means things exist outside of god

2017-11-04 18:39:43 UTC

and if thats the case, why is god required?

2017-11-04 18:39:47 UTC

well under his design, including time being his design, how can u surprize him

2017-11-04 18:40:03 UTC

how can u surprize an infinite being

2017-11-04 18:40:06 UTC

THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

2017-11-04 18:40:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356277817253560320/376440488963604480/image.jpg

2017-11-04 18:40:22 UTC

@Gurgio cringe.jpg

2017-11-04 18:40:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/356277817253560320/376440564134051841/image.jpg

2017-11-04 18:40:28 UTC

COMING DOWN THE MOUTAIN SIDE

2017-11-04 18:40:39 UTC

oof

2017-11-04 18:40:44 UTC

That's /pol/ btw

2017-11-04 18:41:03 UTC

This is DDs claim

2017-11-04 18:41:17 UTC

halfchan nerds are pure cringe

2017-11-04 18:41:31 UTC

/pol/ showed up to Nov 4th in some city

2017-11-04 18:41:36 UTC

/pol/ is nowhere near that fit

2017-11-04 18:41:56 UTC

This isn't a problem that DD is posing

2017-11-04 18:41:56 UTC

Their banner literally says /pol/

2017-11-04 18:42:02 UTC

That's not a problem

2017-11-04 18:42:09 UTC

It's a problem for the theist

2017-11-04 18:42:19 UTC

becuase the theist believes god is personal

2017-11-04 18:42:30 UTC

The deist does not

2017-11-04 18:42:47 UTC

what do u mean personal

2017-11-04 18:43:27 UTC

God is somehow detectable through his actions or states to ones experience

2017-11-04 18:43:53 UTC

In christian theism, this is things like revalation and Jesus coming to earth etc

2017-11-04 18:44:07 UTC

But that's just a theistic constraint

2017-11-04 18:44:12 UTC

what

2017-11-04 18:44:13 UTC

so what

2017-11-04 18:44:18 UTC

whats ur point

2017-11-04 18:44:25 UTC

So its not an argument against Diesm

2017-11-04 18:44:28 UTC

hes not personal, hes universal

2017-11-04 18:44:34 UTC

the argument is revelation

2017-11-04 18:44:45 UTC

That isn't an arguement either

2017-11-04 18:44:50 UTC

other revelation doesnt explain

2017-11-04 18:44:55 UTC

That just presumes his position is true,

2017-11-04 18:45:01 UTC

which is to beg the question

2017-11-04 18:45:06 UTC

sorryh

2017-11-04 18:45:11 UTC

let me correct that

2017-11-04 18:45:27 UTC

the laws ,the principles are explained in revelation, if u dont beg his authority, u beg your authority

2017-11-04 18:45:33 UTC

i trust the final authority of design

2017-11-04 18:45:55 UTC

He is pressuming Wheelz position to be false because he assumes his own position to be true, and that is to just beg the question

2017-11-04 18:45:59 UTC

against Wheelz

2017-11-04 18:46:08 UTC

he has given his reasoning

2017-11-04 18:46:12 UTC

i presume nothing

2017-11-04 18:46:15 UTC

guess you didnt listen as usual

2017-11-04 18:46:19 UTC

He hasn't given reasons

2017-11-04 18:46:22 UTC

he has

2017-11-04 18:46:26 UTC

What was it?

2017-11-04 18:46:29 UTC

Revelation

2017-11-04 18:46:42 UTC

God having authority and contact with the world

2017-11-04 18:46:49 UTC

Deism does not

2017-11-04 18:46:57 UTC

Right, so Wheelz denies revelation, how would Darwins argue it

2017-11-04 18:47:20 UTC

Because all he can do, is assume revelation

2017-11-04 18:47:27 UTC

WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION

2017-11-04 18:47:41 UTC

Which is not an argument against Wheelz

2017-11-04 18:47:49 UTC

Well the bible is actual acccounts of happenings in time

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