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2017-09-28 07:58:52 UTC

Rip. I hope everyone cool is still here then

2017-09-28 07:58:58 UTC

There isn't a crisis, though, when the corporations also have increased purchasing power with the same amount of money due to the increased value of the dollar

2017-09-28 07:59:07 UTC

the political and economic system we have today is not the same, republic-capitalist society as it was

2017-09-28 07:59:11 UTC

i think they made a bot that message everyone kicked

2017-09-28 07:59:11 UTC

That's the 2nd centipede discord I've seen kill itself

2017-09-28 07:59:13 UTC

for re entry

2017-09-28 07:59:19 UTC

why does the FDA allow toxic chemicals in our foor?@Clonemaster™ 6.41 coz money = power, and so corporations use that power to infuence gov

2017-09-28 07:59:27 UTC

but its the first one for cc

2017-09-28 07:59:57 UTC

@Blood if you have an issue with anything in our food, I recommend writing your local congressman about it and attempting to make change instead of complaining about our political and economic system.

2017-09-28 07:59:57 UTC

the FDA is a government system. What makes you think socialism wouldnt be any more fucked up as time passes than the corrupt systems we see today?

2017-09-28 08:00:03 UTC

I'm sorry, but coporations being greedy doesn't oppress anybody in any way. The point of a business is to *profit*

2017-09-28 08:00:07 UTC

+ people stop looking for a better job and the labor market gets stalled

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2017-09-28 08:00:22 UTC

@Fusion lol you think my local congressman can stand up to billionaire corporations?

2017-09-28 08:00:32 UTC

I like my gmo taters.

2017-09-28 08:00:35 UTC

Of course I do

2017-09-28 08:00:37 UTC

sorry, im a bit retarded with the words

2017-09-28 08:00:43 UTC

With enough public pressure, anything is possible.

2017-09-28 08:00:58 UTC

with pressure, you can make any solution come to be if you press hard enough

2017-09-28 08:01:21 UTC

a right, thats why we are not in wars, thats why our food supply even witth common knoledge about it being shit is being changed.......@Fusion

2017-09-28 08:01:23 UTC

Like trying to impeach Trump over every little thing

2017-09-28 08:01:23 UTC

however if it is good or not is another thing entirely

2017-09-28 08:01:37 UTC

Nothing is being done with your food to somehow manipulate the population.

2017-09-28 08:01:48 UTC

@Fusion i never said that

2017-09-28 08:01:59 UTC

Also, almost every nation on the planet is involved in some sort of armed conflict one way or another.

2017-09-28 08:02:12 UTC

Mostly in Africa, South America, and the Middle East.

2017-09-28 08:02:33 UTC

i said that corporations get to by pass health concerns, by paying off governent@Fusion

2017-09-28 08:02:34 UTC

If anything, food has pesticides to keep away...uh...pests. They eat the food and we don't get it.

2017-09-28 08:02:51 UTC

Better too little health concerns than too many.

2017-09-28 08:03:02 UTC

Let me tell you a story about my visit to California.

2017-09-28 08:03:09 UTC

@Blood and it's the responsiblity of the government to *not accept* those bribes. That's why limited government is important

2017-09-28 08:03:11 UTC

go for it

2017-09-28 08:03:11 UTC

Honestly, even though they were leftists, the people were pretty nice.

2017-09-28 08:03:13 UTC

there are GMO's and cornsyrup which are resulting in crops producing their own poisons and crap to kill off bugs that eat them and shit

2017-09-28 08:03:23 UTC

It was actually quite idyllic all things considered when we weren't discussing politics.

2017-09-28 08:03:34 UTC

Then I saw a sawblade for sale in a store.

2017-09-28 08:03:37 UTC

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 they dont to assume people will do the right thing in positions of power is unrealistic

2017-09-28 08:03:42 UTC

You know what the sawblade said on it?

2017-09-28 08:03:47 UTC

You build a stronger, more resilient ear of corn, and i'll slather it up with butter and salt. Then i'll eat it typewriter style.

2017-09-28 08:03:52 UTC

"This product is known by the state of California to cause cancer."

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The deadly radioactive sawblade

2017-09-28 08:04:12 UTC

@Blood again, that's how government is a necessary evil. That's why it *must be limited*

2017-09-28 08:04:13 UTC

I shit you people not, it was there.

2017-09-28 08:04:14 UTC

@Fusion was it barring anyone from buying it ?

2017-09-28 08:04:26 UTC

*that is republicanism*

2017-09-28 08:04:31 UTC

@fr Are you perchance familiar with a Floridian who went by the handle JYAP?

2017-09-28 08:04:32 UTC

It was a deliberate attempt to falsely claim that sawblades can cause cancer.

2017-09-28 08:04:50 UTC

Thereby using the claim that it causes cancer to dissuade people from ever purchasing it.

2017-09-28 08:04:56 UTC

@Blood it costs the company money to print that on there or they'[email protected] fined.

2017-09-28 08:05:01 UTC

And thus impacting the potential profit that can be made from the sale of that item.

2017-09-28 08:05:01 UTC

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 right, except the problem is not gov, ITS CORPORATIONS trying to buy off the gov, with less gov, they dont have to pay off shit, they now have afree pass to do as they please lmao

2017-09-28 08:05:03 UTC

cornsyrup apparently isn't processed the same as sugar, as it is very fattening

2017-09-28 08:05:05 UTC

If so, then it's a severely midguided attempt.

2017-09-28 08:05:24 UTC

People that buy sawblades aren't concerned with what they cause

2017-09-28 08:05:25 UTC

@Aqua [FC Gazovik Damascus] no i live in sweden mate cuckistan

2017-09-28 08:05:36 UTC

> impeaching trump for having 2 scwoops

2017-09-28 08:05:40 UTC

@fr got you mixed up with someone, then

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2017-09-28 08:05:43 UTC

I challenge anyone in this chat to indisputably prove to me that sawblades cause cancer.

2017-09-28 08:05:44 UTC

sorry m8

2017-09-28 08:05:50 UTC

its k

2017-09-28 08:05:57 UTC

@Extra Crispy whatever happened to plain old American sugar. smh

2017-09-28 08:06:00 UTC

@Fusion lol, i agree it is silly

2017-09-28 08:06:06 UTC

@futurestorms It ended up in Mexico

2017-09-28 08:06:10 UTC

in Mexican Coke.

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2017-09-28 08:06:32 UTC

cornsyrup was subsidized, and eventually a number of research projects made it cheaper to produce and purchase than sugar

2017-09-28 08:06:39 UTC

@Composers Please can I get Textipede and Serious User 🤠

2017-09-28 08:06:40 UTC

@Fusion mexican coke is delicious. Soda in large quantities is bad.

2017-09-28 08:07:01 UTC

Honestly, real sugar sodas do taste a lot better than sodas with corn syrup.

2017-09-28 08:07:16 UTC

I can't distinguish specifically what it is about the taste, but it's just better.

2017-09-28 08:07:28 UTC

@Extra Crispy Corn by products are in a lot of stuff. We grow so much of it.

2017-09-28 08:07:40 UTC

the only reasons as to why the corporations have more say in gov't than us is because the corporate tax holds less of an influence on corporations than the income tax does on citizens, resulting in more money being available for corporations than citizens

2017-09-28 08:07:52 UTC

It's like how diet sodas suck - you can't put your finger on why they taste so bad, but they just do

2017-09-28 08:07:59 UTC

@Fusion I'll take a small batch cream soda with cane sugar any day.

2017-09-28 08:08:00 UTC

@futurestorms imagine if corporations could put addictive chemicals that would make you want to purchase said soda and consume it in a very alarming rate, regardless of health concerns to you, you think they would not if they could? there motive after all is profit

2017-09-28 08:08:11 UTC

@Blood well the the government handles the perogatives that the constitution delegates to the government, so it's only the government's responsibility to protect the rights of coporations just as any citizen's rights are protected. It's not the government's job to regulate them

2017-09-28 08:08:14 UTC

the chemicals in diet sodas are known to directly cause cancer

2017-09-28 08:08:22 UTC

>addictive chemicals

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2017-09-28 08:08:35 UTC

They already have that

2017-09-28 08:08:44 UTC

it's called cigarettes.

2017-09-28 08:08:50 UTC

@Blood Good. Wish i thought of it. No one is holding a gun to my head saying 'drink it, NOW'

2017-09-28 08:08:59 UTC

Personally think cigarettes have no purpose.

2017-09-28 08:09:03 UTC

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 first of no, the constitution does not mention protecting corporations, also what kind of biases shit is, "protecting them " but not "regullationg them"

2017-09-28 08:09:04 UTC

the gov't subsidized research programs that would make addictive fattening chemicals easier to produce and cheaper to purchase than regular sugar

2017-09-28 08:09:13 UTC

The tobacco in them could be used for poultices instead of smoking.

2017-09-28 08:09:23 UTC

Yeah, aspartame etc are disgusting.

2017-09-28 08:09:29 UTC

Taste wise.

2017-09-28 08:09:36 UTC

its literal cancer

2017-09-28 08:10:19 UTC

Give ol' future that sweet siren song known as sucrose.

2017-09-28 08:10:20 UTC

@futurestorms you think people that smoke cigs dont want to stop? do they say "hey its not like someone is holding agun to my head"

2017-09-28 08:10:53 UTC

corn syrup is cheaper to purchase than sugar

2017-09-28 08:10:53 UTC

there are chemicals in the cigs that make it extemely hard to quit

2017-09-28 08:10:55 UTC

@Blood Don't care. You make the choice. They supply it. Supply and demand.

2017-09-28 08:10:56 UTC

if we were to raise the corporate tax and lowered income tax, it would allow for citizens to as a whole earn more money than corporations do

2017-09-28 08:11:11 UTC

@Blood the government simply has no role in anything to which it's not afforded by the constitution. That's the way the government is structured.

2017-09-28 08:11:13 UTC

Reminder, though, that initially people made the decision to start smoking

2017-09-28 08:11:19 UTC

it doesn't matter if the corporations leave or not, largely because the demands that they would fill would be open for new companies to fill

2017-09-28 08:11:20 UTC

@futurestorms also what about monopolies in which a single corporations controls 80 to 90

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of the product

2017-09-28 08:11:40 UTC

and sugar is already addictive

2017-09-28 08:11:48 UTC

90% of television is controlled by 6 corporations

2017-09-28 08:11:49 UTC

Cig smokers are literally cancer, they chose to start, they choose to not stop, and they whine and bitch every step of the way

2017-09-28 08:11:54 UTC

pm me if you need roles

2017-09-28 08:12:03 UTC

or mods

2017-09-28 08:12:10 UTC

sugar has a different effect than cornsyrup and aspartame

2017-09-28 08:12:17 UTC

much different

2017-09-28 08:12:19 UTC

what choice do you have when a small group control most of the "choices"

2017-09-28 08:12:22 UTC

@Blood Free market system. If i had a company and a mega conglomerate wanted to buy it, well my ship just came in!!!

2017-09-28 08:12:29 UTC

who wants mod

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2017-09-28 08:12:48 UTC

@futurestorms right and then they can influence gov with all that money

2017-09-28 08:13:02 UTC

@xX NegroSaki Samurai Xx I would like to be readded to the mod team.

2017-09-28 08:13:04 UTC

@Blood Lobbying? Ok.

2017-09-28 08:13:09 UTC

I also support futurestorms getting mod.

2017-09-28 08:13:13 UTC

Give me mod. I want to ban loli mew

2017-09-28 08:13:14 UTC

@Fusion im making sure you will never get mod again

2017-09-28 08:13:29 UTC

@futurestorms yea lobbying, lol you made it sond like a good thing, but you are a right winger lmao

2017-09-28 08:13:35 UTC

so i would not be surprised

2017-09-28 08:13:35 UTC

Well, shucks. Thanks, @Fusion

2017-09-28 08:13:36 UTC

Give extra crispy mod

2017-09-28 08:13:44 UTC

@xX NegroSaki Samurai Xx Sounds like moderator bias. Something I'll have to talk with your superiors about.

2017-09-28 08:13:48 UTC

He looks like he's got his priorities straight

2017-09-28 08:14:00 UTC
2017-09-28 08:14:01 UTC

<@228757589402451968> <:ThinkStare:356316814847901698>

2017-09-28 08:14:15 UTC

now you are really never getting mod

2017-09-28 08:14:15 UTC

@Blood I am indifferent. I want my piece of the pie so i can retire in 25 years.

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2017-09-28 08:14:30 UTC

@futurestorms nothing wrong with that i guess

2017-09-28 08:14:31 UTC
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the only way to destroy corporate influence on lobbying is to create the circumstances in which individuals would have more cash to lobby, a lot like the NRA and such

2017-09-28 08:14:52 UTC

@Blood Hey, gotta feed my 35 ferrets.

2017-09-28 08:15:04 UTC

@Extra Crispy and what if those groups develop more sinister intentions than the corps?

2017-09-28 08:15:06 UTC
2017-09-28 08:15:08 UTC

increasing corporate tax to the point that they have less money to afford with lobbying would be a part of that process

2017-09-28 08:15:20 UTC

The ferrets keep stealing my fidget spinners.

2017-09-28 08:15:27 UTC

how about.......NO LOBBYING

2017-09-28 08:15:41 UTC

lmao if the NRA started becoming a real shitty group, then the people funding it would cease to fund it

2017-09-28 08:15:59 UTC

lobbying only makes what would happen illegally anyway just legal for everyone

2017-09-28 08:16:29 UTC

wait but you think the nra is not an example of lobbying groups? ever heard of weapons companies?

2017-09-28 08:16:31 UTC
2017-09-28 08:16:42 UTC

@Composers Read my PM, please.

2017-09-28 08:16:42 UTC

the NRA is a lobbying group

2017-09-28 08:16:44 UTC

Term limits.
No lobbying.
End government waste

2017-09-28 08:16:52 UTC

its the most successful example of a lobbying group

2017-09-28 08:16:52 UTC

@futurestorms sound good

2017-09-28 08:17:05 UTC

Term limits must be enacted. Drain the fucking swamp

2017-09-28 08:17:12 UTC

sounds good

2017-09-28 08:17:23 UTC

@Blood So, drain the swamp. Because that's basically what that is.

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2017-09-28 08:17:32 UTC

i agree

2017-09-28 08:17:41 UTC

not to mention weapons corporations earn more from the civilian market than they ever could from the military, largely because of how we americans buy individual guns, and the military buys them cheaply in bulk

2017-09-28 08:17:55 UTC

@Blood Trump said this. You are ok with that?

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the issue with corporations again falls back to corporations having more money to lobby than citizens

2017-09-28 08:19:43 UTC

@Extra Crispy i mean it just sound like such an ineficient way to deal with the problem "the solution to lobbying is.....more lobbying!" how about no lobbying?

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and gov is just there for the people

2017-09-28 08:20:02 UTC

are you telling me that the rich wouldn't lobby anyway regardless if it were legal or not?

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that is the problem with, money = power

2017-09-28 08:20:24 UTC

are you telling me that politicians wouldn't accept those free millions of dollars to 'just do this for us?'

2017-09-28 08:20:38 UTC

money represents power, and removing money would just change how that power is represented

2017-09-28 08:20:51 UTC

@CaptainDynamite @Juan Rico how much longer do you think you guys will stay on

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until you go to sleep

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2017-09-28 08:21:07 UTC

not much longer

2017-09-28 08:21:08 UTC

whats up

2017-09-28 08:21:41 UTC

@Extra Crispy yea, but it would remove in theory , just anybody being able to influence gov

2017-09-28 08:22:08 UTC

if you removed money, then the power would simply be the people responsible for exchanging resources

2017-09-28 08:22:22 UTC

just checking

2017-09-28 08:22:39 UTC

ironically money represnts capital, and by removing capital you just make the next best thing the next representative - the amount of resources you have

2017-09-28 08:22:55 UTC

yea, thats why socialist movements believe the workers own the product

2017-09-28 08:23:00 UTC

When they don't.

2017-09-28 08:23:17 UTC

who will distribute these 'products' when there is no central group to work the logistics?

2017-09-28 08:23:21 UTC

well it prevents anyone taking away their resources that they produce

2017-09-28 08:23:27 UTC

What resources?

2017-09-28 08:23:32 UTC

food, tools, etc

2017-09-28 08:23:33 UTC

ok, i'm done for tonight. lads, keep those chins up and reach for the stars.

2017-09-28 08:23:34 UTC

@xX NegroSaki Samurai Xx throw me back on mod i got rused by based brit srry bby

2017-09-28 08:23:36 UTC

anything really that is essential

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any product that they produce

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To use a common Soviet joke, they pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work.

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2017-09-28 08:24:18 UTC

There are no products being produced

2017-09-28 08:24:19 UTC

my point is that no matter what you try to do, there will be a requirement of organization to as you wish to, 'redistribute' these resources over a wide span of space

2017-09-28 08:24:28 UTC

in effect, it will be easy to control

2017-09-28 08:24:29 UTC

So glad Quatro is here!

2017-09-28 08:24:37 UTC
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and if products do end up being produced, they are of drastically inferior quality to products produced in capitalist nations.

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as a consequence, it would fail, eventually until either the group realizes this, or the military (invading or otherwise) takes control

2017-09-28 08:25:03 UTC

Good to see @🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) here. I thought you were voice chat mod, though.

2017-09-28 08:25:06 UTC

@Extra Crispy which is why it will be made out of regional representitives elected by the people of those regions

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democratic socialism@Extra Crispy

2017-09-28 08:25:45 UTC

Again, the workers *never* own the means or production or the productive assests. It's never worked out this way, and it never can. Because the workers are not supposed to be the ones managing a business like that

2017-09-28 08:25:46 UTC

And if the regional elections result in non-socialists being elected?

2017-09-28 08:25:50 UTC

no i deafened pef because brit rused me into believing that pef was a full on nigger so pef throw me back into gold lol

2017-09-28 08:25:51 UTC

Then socialism stops existing.

2017-09-28 08:26:02 UTC

otto told me the whole thing tho and i guess i agree with em,

2017-09-28 08:26:10 UTC

it doesnt matter what these representatives say, when these people can literally pay themselves (they dont have to go to anyone to get these resources that they are now responsible for distributing) to do what they like, regardless of what the 'representatives' want

2017-09-28 08:26:11 UTC

Does anyone have the optimus prime facepaint fail?

2017-09-28 08:26:12 UTC

@Fusion well fuck it, if thats what they elected

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2017-09-28 08:26:39 UTC

I mean, Pef is trying to pull all the stops to prevent me from regaining the admin role I had prior to the shoahing of CC

2017-09-28 08:26:39 UTC

the main reason as to why the military doesn't coup in the US is because the generals are not the ones paying their soldiers

2017-09-28 08:26:50 UTC

the logitsics people in these circumstances would

2017-09-28 08:26:52 UTC

@🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) how much longer are you going to stay on discord?

2017-09-28 08:27:03 UTC

like in life or today

2017-09-28 08:27:10 UTC

oh I just woke up like an hour ago

2017-09-28 08:27:13 UTC

@Extra Crispy so they are gonna get more bananas then they need? thats less of an incentinve to become corrupt then money that can buy anything

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2017-09-28 08:27:20 UTC

I would at the least prefer to see @🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) back on the mod team. Never had any issues with him, either as a user or a moderator.

2017-09-28 08:27:22 UTC

Was a chill guy.

2017-09-28 08:27:23 UTC

probably another ten hours or so

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2017-09-28 08:27:39 UTC

Quatro for mod

2017-09-28 08:27:45 UTC

if a group is responsible for distributing resources, they are in direct control of deciding who starves and who doesn't

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@Composers you okay with giving quatro mod so he can be the janitor for the night

2017-09-28 08:27:52 UTC

Read: Holodomor

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it doesn't matter what some cucks in the middle of the field on the 4 corners of the nation demand 'democratically'

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pretend cc is this server

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This is basically CC 3.0

2017-09-28 08:28:30 UTC

@Extra Crispy my point is what if the people that produce the goods are the ones that distribute them,

2017-09-28 08:28:32 UTC

Quatro4mod @king

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composers is dead

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get him to respond

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and i'll make you mod

2017-09-28 08:28:48 UTC

hes in bed

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