Even if ALL of society

ALL

Openly accepted you

How does it hut people?

If the female groups accepted you and ect

and some do btw

When you go to the doctor or physician

Or a therapist

They'll bring it up yes

They will HAVE to diagnose you as your biological sex

they're experience as a woman will be different from other woman

And that gives a bullet in the head

but these categroies are arbitrary at best and what one choses to identify as is not really that big of an issue

if it helps them, if it's what they want to do, why stop them?

Gender is a social construct at best.

And some men do posses feminized brains.

But if it's a social consturct

*construct

Everyone has to adhere to it

All of society

So unless you make it illegal

There will be people openly able to be against them for any personal reason

Forget religion

Okay, but what about men with feminizied brains?

Or vice versa/

They can follow the tasks and careers their minds find suitable

Why can't they identify as a woman?

Why do they need to?

I'm sorry who has there mike on?

If they're acting on impulse

Why does it matter/

If they want to, go for it

Or emotion

why play video games?

Or drink alchol?

Or study

or live.

Hold on

Video Games- Emotional escape that has been debated to be regulated by the government for it's addictive nature

Alcohol - Dangerous drug, inhibits your cognitive and motor functions, and can cause illnesses and death

Study - Actually an acceptable form of time-usage and can greatly help with careers

Are you advocaing for removing these things?

Living - You choose to live, I'm not stopping you

I'm showing how you just placed all those random things as if they were somehow an argument

Okay well....I think we're getting into more philsophical disagreements there

Some people do things for fun.

I as an individual believe that if you are doing something purely on emotion and it has no actual benefit

Some people do things to feel like they have an idenity.

It's a waste of time

Eh

I'll relax and drink a beer

I'd have to disagree.

But that at least helps me recollect my day and recharge for tomorrow

Changing your identity

Does not make you better at anything

Ooof my brain is a bit fried from the lab forgive me

It makes you feel like you belongg better.

And yes it has no ecomomic benefit

but personal welness i take to be a benefit in and of itslef

itself

If I think of myself as a cat

Wellness

And I REALLY think I'm a cat

GO ahead I don't care.

Well maybe if you do that you may have some issues

but again, men can have feminized brains

And those issues are?

and with feminized brains they can still function and contribute

they can do all the things we do

If there is even the slightest risk

Your making the comparison between transgederism and transspecisim

With having to stop living the reality of being the opposite sex when explaining your biological sex to a doctor or ect

as if the latter is at all plausible

And that can potentially cause them to suffer psychologically

Maybe some people are willing to take that risk.

That's a terrible risk

We know transgenders often commit suicide

It's like you're pulling the trigger

ANd prehaps society can do a better job with helping them navigate a difficult process and journey.

Unless you make it illega

Or mandatory

If we we're more accepting prehpas the rate wouldn't be so high.

People will not do that

And you can't expect people adhere to that

Again, your acting and assuming what the best intrest of these people are.

No

As if you and I know what's best for them.

I assume the worst from people

Fair enough.

And I know

Murphy's Law

If you try to change anything legally

You're going to have a way bigger issue

Make it illegal to "bully" transgenders? Then there is no more Free Speech

A bigger issue for who?

Make it mandatory to help Transgenders?

Then all oppressed groups will ask for the same thing

And then every child born into this world

Make discrimination illegal, social dafety nets, and generally people being kinder and more tolerant would all help

Will have to grow up having to help people they had no relationship with

BUllying wont stop

Just because they didn't fit with the minority criteria

WHat's so wrong with helpnig each other?

You

Can not

Force it

If you force it, then it's not real help

You know im not just advocating for minorities only to be trewated better

I know

i want everyone to be treated better

And I'm telling you

but minorities get it the worse

That's a childish ideology

And Yes

I know

so im priorityzing there treatment

I'm Latino

I know my dude

I've had my head up against a cop car for walking

I don't think I need special attention

I don't think anyone needs special attention

If they can physically and mentally push themselves

I think you deserve equal attention to everyone else

which you might not have.

You can't have that

You can not force it

Dude this is the 21st centruy

And?

equal attention and treatment of needs is easier than ever

and it'll only get easier

And then

Someone who is supplying all this treatment

it'll be idelogical issues that'll prevent us from equality, not technology

But not getting much himself

Will get angry

Because you can only give so much love and help to people outside of your family and friend groups

SO your advocating for collective ownership of the means of production? 😃

I'd disagree.

I think you can help people outside of your in group, but it takes patenice education love and time.

I've seen people do i.

It is possible.

Hard but possible.

I'm advocating for the individual living of individuals not interfering with others

Just like anything that's worth fighting for.

Is that even possible?

It's not

We live in a society, my actions will effect you.

Ok

WE don't live in that world.

A society that spans thousands of miles with hundreds of millions of citizens from billions of different backgrounds

@Somedudewithaname oi you ready or what

I gotta go to bed soon

So lets go back to our world where we are an interconnected interdependent species

I'd leave it there

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

aight fine ill go for you

Your turn

Wait frito

yes?

send me a friend request

Alright

We can continue this later

Alright Vril-Ya

lets go

tranny question right?

lets hear about the decay of western civlization because of the gays

im ready

WHat's your premise?

Social cost of trannies shifts acceptable range of ideas, hence it should be banned and possibly attempted to be cured in a loony bin with ethical experimentation.

Same idea with homosexuals

Familial stability and societal order is more important than individual rights and whims

What issue does the shift in acceptable range of ideas provides/

?

Also why does family stability matter more?

because family stability is what propagates the society forward, literally how children are raised to be decent citizens, if you upset the balance of families you ruin entire generations

the divorce epidemic is an analogous example to bad social policy based on "freedom" ruining a generation

Your talking about your feelings man

No, I am talking about observable breakdown of society based on familial instability

I don't care if people get divorced if it's the right thing for them.

I don't care if family units break down.

And morality is actually partially based on feeling, rather intuition.

Hell family unit structure is different across societies

I advocate for a homogeneous European ethnostate.

chinese cultures calue extedned family while americand focus on the nucleus

So I don't care about other cultures

or races

Good luck with maintaining that.

Are you gonna resist globalism?

yes

in fact globalism must be destroyed

down to the bone marrow

You realize that will never happen without whiping out technological advancements?

Why do you say that

Do you value your ethnostate more than your computer made by chinese people?

wrong, simply because we have the internet doesn't mean we therefore must open our borders to foreigners

Anti-globalism does not mean economic isolationism

Are you going to prevent trade and immigration?

Anti globalism doesn't mean we wouldn't do trade

immigration yes, it adds nothing to our nation

it simply means we have a homogeneous population

I'm sorry america is filled with immigrants

we're literally all immigrants

incremental political change will change this

not an argument

I don't care about current demographic realities or your notions of identity

explain why we should allow immigration

we will impose our own notions

Immigrants contribute economically

as a new elite over time, maybe not me specifically but people *like* m

Especially in america

me*

the vast majority are a net loss

no they don't

anything we've gained we've lost ten times over

most immigrants who come to this coutnry are highly educated and preform jonbs

not fact man

Excuse me are african americans immigrants?

but my argument isn't economic

hispanics are generally

regardless, there's also inverse assimilation rates per generation to consider

their low IQ's

their lack of adherence to our social and sexual standards

and their contempt for our religion

All sounds great to me.

how is that good?

don't troll, this isn't main or banter

argue seriously

Well I value a diverse culture.

I would also rather have a homogenous society than worship the economy at my own expense

i'd prefer some cultrual values get eroded for progressive ones.

your values are irrelevant, you will be imposed upon by a new elite

there are lots of things that benefit the economy at the expense of the nation

the current progressive system is failing rapidly

I find the personal benefits of diversity outweight the negatives

they do not

there is no evidence of this

what benefits?

lmao

I could say your values are also irrelevant.

your values are weak, in that you will be dominated by people like me in the long run

Economically many companies benefit from immigrant labor

so?

they benefit temporarily

they also benefit from a lot of terrible, immoral shit

but then the system collapses

because of social cost of these people

and their lack of assimilation

it's a temporary influx of cash flow

followed by a systemic collapse