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The lampshades and human soap bars were also proven to be false.
That looks like a lot of fake news.
Not an argument.
Just my opinion.
who changed his mind after getting access to the documents at Auschwitz
Actions speak louder than words.
@Deleted User swimming pools and hospitals were for Auschwitz concentration camp not the death camp
there were both
stop misrepresenting it
It's amazing some people still think there were 6 million now 10-11 million Jews & others in the camps.
It's logistically, mathematically, and scientifically impossible especially in the time span of 6 years.
where are you getting your 250k number
it is absolutely logistically possible
nobody thinks 5+ million were gassed
All of the photographs of bodies are of people who starved to death
3 million were killed in death camps, the rest died in the east from Einsatzgruppen or in the concentration camps from disease/malnutrition
Many of them had typhus ~ we know because when the Allies saved as many as we could. We treated them and our nurses got sick and some died from it.
Media = Propaganda. The Winners re-write history and then make up easily debunked conspiracy theories.
you haven't debunked anything
FDR also knew about Pearl Harbor
this photo isn't of typhus victims
neither is this one
@agag Do you deny that (((Eisenhower))) starved 900,000-1,000,000 Germans in a camp after the war?
I've heard it many times
never from a reputable source
Okay just checking.
Death squads were on both sides.
just because you read it on /pol/ doesn't mean it's true
Not just the USSR either. the USA and UK had death squads
The Nuremburg trials are a joke.
nobody denies that
they were a kangaroo court
Oh good at least we agree on sometime.
everybody agrees on that
Good to find common gorund
nobody defends Nuremberg as a legitimate court
Hm I'm not so sure about that statement.
Plenty of people think the Germans were evil because they lap up poor propaganda like it's milk.
And they use w/e they can to demonize them. Even though Germany was only free under Hitler.
Germans did evil things regardless of whether Nuremberg was a fair trial or not
Germany was not free under Hitler
People's Court was not freedom
At least the Germans didn't crawl on their belly or their knees like it has done since the demise of Adolf Hitler.
Aktion T4 was not freedom
And the German people were so happy and rich. It's a shame we destroyed that and most of the rest of civilization with bombs.
the RCC having to smuggle in anti-regime ideas was not freedom
Rest in peace to all the 60 million mostly all Europeans dead from WWII.
Germany started the bombings
they bombed Rotterdam
But hey, at least we this clownworld we get to live in ;D
While we're turning the middle east into ashes.
all of you cry for Dresden, none of you remember how the Germans destroyed Rotterdam and demolished the entire city of Warsaw
after the Warsaw Rising the Germans demolished the entire city
The UK started the terror bombing. The USA and Germany and many others terror bombed.
It's just a fact,
I'm not exaggerating that
85% of the city was demolished
UK did not start the bombing
Germany bombed Rotterdam first
they also invaded Poland despite knowing the Allies would intervene if they did so
Didn't the Allies give away German land?
they annexed Polish majority lands, so don't give me the "they just wanted to unify ethnic Germans" argument
I also know that Germans were being ethnically cleansed in Poland.
they were not
Bloody Sunday happened after the start of the war
you have the dates reversed
Poland got exactly what they knew they were going to get.
Ethnically cleansing people never goes well.
source for ethnic cleansing please
Bloody Sunday was after the start of the war
I'm sure you have one
you know all about the true history of WWII
9/11 is proof of ethnic cleansing in Poland?
On a side note. 9/11 was Israel & Saudi Arabia
I'm sure that's just a conspiracy too.
9/11 is completely unrelated to WW2 and Polish genocide of Germans
I never said it was related.
which I'm sure you have a source for
Our conversation wasn't really going anywhere.
It was quite evident.
As of 7 minutes ago.
you refuse to cite any sources!
I cited one and you immediately shrugged it off and spammed your link 6-7 times. Lol
of course, you don't need evidence when you feel you're right
So it was clearly a waste of time.
That's just my opinion.,
the Jewish Question video?
the war lies video?
David Irving. But the Jewish Question by Love Life and Anarchy is a masterpiece.
I especially enjoy the part about Jesus of Nazareth.
It wasn't just about WWII X'D
have you got an actual historian who says what you say
I also have people who were actually in the camps.
somebody that isn't universally considered a sham
if you've got plenty then cite one
Already cited one, and you shot it down.
We've been over this.
who says Poland was ethnically cleansing Germans before the start of the war
then cite another one
I mentioned another just didn't mention his name.
How about the Jewish individual who said "It was real in my head" ;D
That's another one.
yup that debunks all the witnesses who testify credibly that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz, and it definitely debunks the commander of Auschwitz himself who says that 1.1 million Jews died there
I'm not talking about the Holocaust anymore
I would like some proof for those numbers.
have you got a source that agrees that Germans were being ethnically cleansed by the Poles
Maybe a citation that isn't fake news.
Let me know when you have the records.
Höss is a reliable witness
Wait... didn't you say that they weren't being ethnically cleansed?
That was my point X'D
yes I'm asking you to cite a source that agrees with you
So you believe they were or not
Now I'm even more confused.
no I don't, I believe you have the events mixed up. Bloody Sunday was a violent reprisal against Germans living in Poland, but it was a reaction to the start of the war, not a cause for it
Idk I never mentioned that you did.
I'm asking for a source that says that was happening before the start of the war
So idk how I would have the events mixed up.
When you were the one who talked about that, not me.
So you admit there was ethnic cleansing?
Just trying to clear this up.
there were reprisals after the start of the war
they were not a justification for the war
the war was started because Hitler was an expansionist
It's a massive justification.
That's why Hitler put it over the radio waves.
something that happened after the start of the war is not a cause for starting the war
Brb going to grab some more dinner.
Thanks for the discussion ❤
alright make sure you grab some sources
I'm very interested in your sources!
evidence is very important
I will grab some extra salt as well X'D
Btw highly recommend to all ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4JbWSwUWew
bb in a few
highly recommended to all
also very highly recommended
extremely highly recommended
recommended to all
here's another recommended book
not free unfortunately
the rest of them are though
Jesus christ fuck off with this false propaganda
The final solution by sabaton should go here
Shows Hitler's evil
I thought this was serious chat not edgy chat smh
This is serious, indeed
Idk why tbh
here's a book that talks about actual false propaganda if you're interested
talks about the Hitler myth in the Third Reich
*it's fake because I don't like it*
I dont know much about Hitler or history very well but I wouldnt doubt it if Hitler is misrepresented to made look like the devil.
People followed him and elected him chancellor for a reason not just because the German people were sadistic and hated everyone.
However, I think people really only over glorify him because of the stigma his name hold not because of his actual individual accomplishments, policy or integrity as a person.
by 1936 his popularity had declined to the point where they no longer got enough spontaneous crowds and Speer had to organize people who would cheer for him
Kershaw talks about this stuff in that last link I sent
I couldn't find that book for free but if you're genuinely interested in the subject consider getting it
Kershaw is one of the most respected people on this topic
I like learning about history. It is very difficult finding a source that isn't skewing data or deliberately omitting key information.
History is Written by the victors, the only "respectable" ones will be those peddling the official narrative
Thats a shame.
For all we know, George Washington could have been a Native American.
David Irving was also a "respectable" historian, but once he even questioned the matter of gas chambers and concentration camps, he was instantly slandered and ridiculed
I think I saw that in the Greatest Story Never Told.
Great documentary but you must watch it in parts.
I really don't think so and I don't see a reason why he would lie about his ethnicity
Irving is ridiculed because he's a hack, for example he uses a document from Himmler saying a transport of 1000 German Jews east is not to be liquidated as proof Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews. In reality, this group was being transported to populate a ghetto previously populated by native jews who had been liquidated, and that German Jewish transport was liquidated in the end. Can you see how Irving misrepresented, or at best misinterpreted, that evidence, or do I need to spell it out for you?
1936 saw an election in nazi Germany that again (obviously) Hitler received overwhelming support in. And just anecdotally my grandfather was a soldier in nazi Germany and I know according to him he had overwhelming support until the war started and even during it.
Plus 36 saw one of the biggest Nuremberg rallies
The average citizen didnt start turning on Hitler until the war actually started
and I bet it peaked after conquering France and Poland
Germans didnt believe they could do it
that's from Kershaw
he cites Speer
here's speer's book
here's where Speer talks about cheering crowds
that's gonna be on my wall now
instead of ur baseless claim of popularity and spontaneity
where did juris go
Guys, Alex Jones was just banned from Twitter.
I think that is every social media platform he is officially banned from.
Yet, Cenk U-gayer continues to make anti-white content with the support of YouTube's CEO.
"drop the bomb"
the 3 words that killed zarqawi
We are moving towards a totalitarian society if we allow ourselves to become silenced like this.
If we remain stagnant this will encourage legislation to implement hate speech laws in America. Bye-Bye First Amendment.
freedom of speech =/= freedom from consequences
if you owned and operated a private internet chatroom and someone in there was threatening other users and spouting conspiracy theories, would you invoke the first amendment the way you do now
The setting here is important
We are talking about a chatroom vs the right to speak freely on the largest social media platforms.
who was he harassing
the parents of sandy hook victims
That is like saying: can I use the firat amendment to be a jerk at a starbucks vs can I be perceived as a jerk in public?
The social media giants are essentially publiv territory with how they present themsevles and also becaude they essentially have a monopoly on social media.
I like to think of places like fb and twitter to be part of the public space. And I dont think they should make restrictions on free speech.